KA-T Finally!!!! (NOT 56k Safe)

[side waz]

Hey what's up guys.

Well finally after approximately 4 months of deciding what I want, gathering the parts and getting a newer motor, my system is in.

Here's a quick run down of my system,

SSAutochrome t25/t28 manifold, SR T25 turbo, stock SR turbo elbow and downpipe, SR 370cc injector's, S15 SMIC and piping, GReddy Type S bov, Megan Racing fuel pressure regulator, Walboro fuel pump, SAFC, Megan Racing oil pressure and boost/vacumm gauges.

I recently installed almost everything a week ago and so far, everything feels good. Well at least the motor does and I can hear the turbo spooling when I go over -15 on the vacumm side of the gauge as it approches 0. I currently have the waste gate open as I need to install my fuel pump, injector's, SAFC and smic. Then of course tunning on the dyno.

This would have been done sooner but at the last minute, my old motor went on me. I was blowing smoke in the high rpm's and burning oil. So everything went in to a holding pattern untill I found a new motor which I source a week before my install date. So not only was it a turbo system but a motor swap too.

Here are a few pic's,

A before shot. My old motor rolled over 354,000 km's before it went so that's not to bad.

My buddy Justin preping my new motor. I found a 95 KA with only 180K km's on it and it's from an automatic so it has'nt been abused. Also synthetic oil changes every 4-5K km's. I replaced the front crank seal, rear main seal and pilot bushing just to be safe.

New oil pan with oil return line welded in and of course liquid gasket.

Old motor out in 3.5 hours with just the two of working. Yes, yes I know the engine bay was really dirty. Don't worry, 2 cans of break cleaner later it was almost perfect .

GRRRRRRRRRR, dam oil line was sooo hard to get on. After a few minutes we finally got it on. As you can the manifold and turbo are bolted up.

Manifold, turbo and elbow all set.

The coolant lines were run from the turbo to the outlets under the throttle body and as you see the oil return line is on too.

Oil feed line attached and run to the turbo. As you can also see my oil pressure sending unit was installed too.

Oil feed line to the turbo.

So at this point after approximately 5hrs ish we had the new motor ready to be attached to the transmission. Then the whole thing could be put back in to my car. It was from here we had little hic-ups happen and some issues we needed to solve. First attached the clutch to the motor and forgot to put the transmission backing plate, D'HO! . Then we had prob's putting everything back in as the transmission kept hitting the power steering lines, knocked the oil return line off of the oil pan and just generally getting the motor back in.

So now it's after 9pm ish the motor is in, things are reattached and we realized the cat bolts are somewhat welded on the cat . So another 45min's to an hour to drill them out. A bolt broke on the turbo elbow while attaching the down pipe and tightening the 2 or the 3 bolts and 2 nuts on the turbo/elbow were not the easiest.

So now it's after 12 when we finally had everything done and started the motor. YES SHE STARTED FIRST TIME . It sounded smooth, the turbo was running but the wastegate is left open untill I tune the car so I'm not boosting as yet. However, everything was running fine.

Now we go to bleed the clutch and the nipple broke off the slave cylinder.



So after all this work I could'nt drive home in my car. As you also noticed at this point there are no more pic's. We both were to mad and tired to worry about them. I jumped in Justin's colt and drove home.

As I said earlier I should have everything else in by Thrusday and I'll try to have some more pic's of the finished product at that point.

I do have a couple of questions though for you guys and I'm hoping you can help me out here.

1. After I install my SAFC and set it to the standard -27% can I put the waste gate back on or should I just leave it off untill the car is tunned?

2. If anyone here is running close to or exactly the same set up as me and your using an SAFC could you please give me a detailed descriptiong of ALL your settings? I plan to run 7 - 10psi and I'd love to see your settings and try them out. True every motor is different but if the set up is the same, then the settings should work for me too untill I hit the dyno.

3. Lastly, a few guys I know are running 10psi daily on there ka motor's with NO internal mod's. Is that fine to do? I only plan to play a little during the week but mainly go out for some drifting on weekends.

Well any and all advice to these question's would be GREATLY appreciated and I thank you in advance.

Again I'll update the project soon.

Take care guys.

Easy
Modified by side waz at 10:37 PM 8/9/2005

[crzycav86]

Looks nice. Congrats.

You can run 10 psi just fine. If the ka motor is in good shape, it can handle quite a bit of power. 10 psi on a t25 won't cause problems as long as you have a safe tune.

Good luck! And I'd go ahead and hook up the wastegate. Just don't beat on the car the way there... hehe.

[Florida240sx]

Our cars can handle 350rwhp safely.As long as there is not detonation you'll be good.You could be stock but if you got detonation you can blow your motor. Just run a little rich or just keep under 3000rpms

[nissanfanatic]

Badass man. Looks exactly like how I did my install.

10psi is no prob on a T25. You'll have one hell of a torque curve.lol Prolly end up making more torque than HP. FYI, I run 10.5psi everyday from a straight T04B and I have 137,000 miles. Just tune it right and err on the safe side. You'll have a fun lil toy. Good luck with the car man!

[WDRacing]

Looks good man, run -27% only from 800 to 2000, then leave it a 0 correction, it may be a tad rich, but it will be safe to start. The T25 will start spooling real early, thats why I say use 2000rpm as a limit for the injector correction. Keep us updated man and congrats.

WD

[214kka-et240sx]

hey good work man, thats mani is bad a$$, i have the same one , but its for a sohc ka et, and it fits really good,

[Tx-Sx-FS]

Hey "Sittin" Side Waz , What cooloant lines are needed to have the T25 run on the KA?? Can you get me some pics of where you ran them by the TB? Let me know how the SSAutoChrome handles too cuz thats gonna be my choice if Wasabi Garage doesnt email me back. Please email me at [email protected] Thanks.

[side waz]

Hey thanks for the valueble info man, I appreciate it a lot. The SAFC is going in for sure tomorrow along with my Walboro and 370's. I will install the smic this weekend and then I'm set for tunning which should happen in week or so.

To everyone else I say thanks a lot for the prop's on my system and install. I'm soooooo happy to finally have this in and soon she'll be boosting 10 psi and then the real fun begins.

Tx-Sx-FS, I emailed you with the pic's I had and what I remember with regards to the coolant lines. Hope it helps.

I will keep all you guys posted on how things are going in the following week or so. I will also have some more pic's to post up of the finished engine bay too.

Well take care guys.

[Craving4Boost]

looks like your friend is going everything..haha wheres you

[side waz]

looks like your friend is going everything..haha wheres you

LOL, yeah it does look that way does'nt it. Thing is, who do you think took the pic's?? hahaaha

Actually Justin did most of the work. I had never done this before so I just helped out as best I could. I know a hell of lot more though now and could prob do something like this on my own for sure. True it would take a little longer but at least I learned a lot and can maintain my system properly.

[Mustangs_Suck]

congrats on everything man, we pretty much have the EXACT same set up, except I don't have guages, my BOV is a blitz, and I have a FMIC.

I'm running just the stock 7psi (no boost controller either) and all stock internals. When I got her dyno'd it put out 200rwhp 205rwtq and my compression test wasn't that great either (140 on two cylinders, 150 on the other two) so you should put out more power than me at the same psi, and a small handful more if you bump it up to 10psi (I'd assume around 230rwhp/tq or so - which is nice for such a basic set up )

My SAFC settings ended up WAY different then what people told me to put them at ( I got it wideband tuned on a dyno). On the settings I was recommended to put it at - I was running a 14.5:1 AFR (which is dangerously high) and after tuning it, it's now set at a 12.5:1 AFR

Here's my dyno sheet:http://nissaninfiniticlub.net/...6.jpg

I've upgraded the cooling since then (got a 12" fan and a koyo radiator)....so it might make a bit more power (it started running dangerously hot when they did the last few dyno runs, and it wasn't tuned that well when it made the numbers I got) but at least you have an idea what you can expect.

Good luck with the car and have fun The car pulls pretty damn well, I've put some cars that I used to think were pretty quick to shame hehe.

[brunswick240]

Awesome job, I hope to be making a post similar to this pretty soon. Cant wait till all I hear is BBWAAAaaa...PSSSHHTTTT haha. Good luck and seriously try real hard to keep us posted!

[Tx-Sx-FS]

hey Side Waz..how are you gonna run the SMIC from the SR?? I tried it with my car last time and the top radiator hose would get pinched...would over heat real fast..but i later found out that my radiator was cracked on the top where the fill cap it..keep the pics comings..get it driving and let me know how she runs..ill have the same setup.

[rn240sx]

All those emissions are the DEVIL........... STAY AWAY..!!!! X

[sean8564]

looks good yeah like was said earlier you can easily get 350 HP. 240 in sleeper mode

[side waz]

hey Side Waz..how are you gonna run the SMIC from the SR?? I tried it with my car last time and the top radiator hose would get pinched...would over heat real fast..but i later found out that my radiator was cracked on the top where the fill cap it..keep the pics comings..get it driving and let me know how she runs..ill have the same setup.

Hey man.

Well I'm actually having some issues with the smic. Not so much with what you were saying but with getting to fit in properly and mouted tightly. The piping I'll have to play around and see what works but I plan on using my kade cold air intake pipe that crosses the rad anyway and hook the cold pipe from smic to it. This should work just fine if I can make it work. If not, then I'll have to try and get an S13 smic and piping. Just trail and error at this point.

On the up side, I did install my Walboro pump and SAFC today and everything seems to be working just fine. Since the 370's are not in yet, I left the settings at 0 pretty much. I did however, in the High Throttle, add 1% fuel at 3000rpm, 4000rpm, 5000rpm and 2% at 5500rpm, 6000rpm and 7000rpm in the NE Points. Just a little richer in case there is a boost spike. I'll be getting to the injector's later this weekend, if I can get those stupid screws holding the caps loose (LOL), and try to get the smic in. Then I will attach the waste gate again and see how it all goes. I won't be pushing hard untill I hit the dyno but at least I'll be boosting at that point.

Now if someone could give me some settings for my SAFC based on my current set up, I'd be more then happy to try them out to see what there like. I don't have a wideband so again, I would'nt be pushing hard at all but it would nice to boost a little safely. The wastegate is still set at the stock SR setting of 7psi. I know WDRacing gave me some imput but more is always nice to have.

I promiss I'll get some more pic's soon. I have a couple now but they are of my dirty engine bay with PVC, gheto ***, piping. It's running direct from my turbo to the throttle body and it just does'nt look right so I did'nt want to embarass my self by posting them.

Talk to you guys soon.

[headstrong]

That Turbo manifold looks good. I'm planning on doing a very similar project. My motor is still good in my car so would I be able to put my turbo kit in w/out removing the motor from the chassis?

[gabossie]

technically... yes. But it would make life MUCH easier to remove the motor first, especially when dealing with the oil return. Removing the motor really isn't that big a deal at all... two people can do it in a couple hours, and hour or less if you've done it a few times.

[side waz]

Yeah I'm really happy with the manifold but one thing I'll let all of you know and suggest if you get this. HAVE IT SLOTTED!!! When the first slot was done it sprung out, we're guessing because of the pressure it was under. The same thing happened with the other to slot cuts.

Having this done will greatly relieve the stress on the manifold and cut the chances of cracking way down. It now has some room to flex a little.

This is just some advice I wanted to pass along to you guys.

As for installing on the car, yeah it's fine to do it that way but like gabossie said, it will be easiest with the motor pulled. My buddy and I did it in 16hrs, straight, in his garage. Just make sure you have ALL the right tools and a friend or two for some help and you'll be good to go.

[Craving4Boost]

its easy to turbo with the motor still in....the only reason why i would want to take it out is the chance to do some good cleaning

[Tx-Sx-FS]

Hey, on the manifold..what exactly do you mean by slotting it?? I know to cut between each runner on the flange, is that what you mean?? or something else..thanks

Also, where did you get the oil lines and return for the T25 on a KA??
Modified by Tx-Sx-FS at 9:55 PM 7/18/2005

[side waz]

Yeah that's what I ment. Slot each runner at the flange where it bolts to the motor. It relieves the stress on it a whole lot.

As for the lines, well the feed and return lines are stainless steel, I had a pipe welded on to my oil pan then I double clamped the return to it. The stock SR oil return line coming from the turbo was to small, I was told, for our motor's so I had a custom flange and larger drain pipe made that bolts in the exact spot as the stock one. It's just bigger and it cost me $40.00 Canadian at a place my installer knew of.

I don't have a pic of it I'm sorry but it's the same as the stock t25 just a larger diameter piece of pipe.

Now your the second person asking me about this as well as what fittings I've used. The fittings will depend on if your using an oil pressure gauge or not. I used a Megan Racing OPG so I needed fittings for that. I will be talking with my installer a little later this week and I can give you guys the link to the site where they sell t25/t28 lines and fittings as well as what Justin went out and bought. Then I'll post those up along with the gheto pic's of my engine bay and how it looks now. It's gheto still b/c I have'nt installed my smic yet so a PVC tube comes from the turbo to my cold air intake. Again it's just for now and I'll keep udating you guys on things.

[Tx-Sx-FS]

Hey, im using the same OPG so hook me up with some info with the return line..is there something sticking down from the turbo already that you just put a new hose on it?? I mainly only need help finding the fitting that goes into the turbo feed itself cuz i can find or get the stainless lines.I bought an adapter for the fitting to go into the stock sending unit threads so i can use the stock unit and Megan. Let me know..waiting for pics

[side waz]

Ok guys here are some more pic's. As I said the piping is a little ghetto but it's only for now and it works. So please, don't flame me to much.

For now, I'm using a piece of PVC tubing from the turbo direct to my cold air intake and in to the throttle body. This is just untill I install my smic or go fmic.

The manifold and turbo installed and running.

The only issue I had with the SSA mani was clearing the break lines. So I, CAREFULLY, bent them out of the way and to keep the fluid from boiling I wraped it in aluminum tape.

My Megan Racing fuel pressure regulator. The pressure looks low but don't worry it's only because the car was off for a while.

The following pic's are for those interested in my fittings used for my oil feed lines. I will get exactly what was used soon but untill then, these are the best I can do as remember all this is installed on the car already. I hope it's usefull.

Feed line from the OPG sending unit.

Oil feed line Pic 1,

Oil feed line Pic 2,

As this project continues I'll update you guys. I should be finished and dynoed hopefully in the next couple of weeks, ish.

Have a good one.

[Tx-Sx-FS]

hey, looking good, except the piping j/k. Well keep us updated and me about the fittings...i maninly need just the fittings for the turbo inlet and outlet..like most have flanges, does your use a flange?? Thanks. Oh yea..is that an S13 or S14? later.

[iknowyoulike]

quick question...i'm doing mines soon as well i have everything as well..did you have to adjust timing too? or is the stock timing gonna be okay for a low boosting motor?

[MarkEmark]

What are the units on your fuel pressure gauge?!? Certainly not psi...

That looks like a gauge that'd be used on older carburetted engines, not modern fuel injected engines which run a LOT more fuel pressure, no?

And i would not trust that PVC piping for anything more than 4 psi or so...and I know this from personal experience. Luckily i was able to find out the blown intercooler pipe that fell off and skipped across the road into a ditch....

[alta steve]

hey has the pvc pipe melted yet? just curious..

[side waz]

hey has the pvc pipe melted yet? just curious..

No it has'nt but that's probabley b/c I'm not boosting as yet. I've been driving with the wastegate off as I have yet to hit the dyno. Now a buddy of mine is using PVC tubing with his FMIC and he's doing ok at 7psi. As long as the conections are glued together it should'nt be a problem.

I'm sorry I have'nt been on for a while guys or updated things yet. I've just been really busy working. My wife is due with our second child in mid August so I am trying to work a lot to get a little extra money away.

I do have my SR injector's in now and my SAFC set to -27% currently. Everything seems to working just fine and I'll be doing my intercooler hopefully tomorrow. Then I can reattach the wastegate and boost just a little untill I hit the dyno.

hey, looking good, except the piping j/k. Well keep us updated and me about the fittings...i maninly need just the fittings for the turbo inlet and outlet..like most have flanges, does your use a flange?? Thanks. Oh yea..is that an S13 or S14? later.

Well for the turbo inlet I used the stock SR oil line coming from the turbo, screwed my restrictor to that then screwed my stainless line on. Then that line of course runs to my sending unit. The flange for the oil drain had to be custom made. The stock SR one was to small for our bigger motors. So a new flange was made and welded to a larger diameter tube for the oil to drain out properly. I hope that helps you a little. The best thing I can suggest is to take your turbo stuff to your local pro shop or hardware store and play with some fittings and find the right one that fits. Neither my installer or my self can find the reciepts that had the fitting names on them so for now, this is the best I can do. As for my car, it's a 1991 white hatch back.

quick question...i'm doing mines soon as well i have everything as well..did you have to adjust timing too? or is the stock timing gonna be okay for a low boosting motor?

I have'nt touched my timing at all as I'll be leaving that to the pro's at the dyno. From what I've "heard", boosting with low psi with stock timing is ok but don't quote me on that.

What are the units on your fuel pressure gauge?!? Certainly not psi...

That looks like a gauge that'd be used on older carburetted engines, not modern fuel injected engines which run a LOT more fuel pressure, no?

And i would not trust that PVC piping for anything more than 4 psi or so...and I know this from personal experience. Luckily i was able to find out the blown intercooler pipe that fell off and skipped across the road into a ditch....

The MR gauge is just fine for any application. It's good up to 120psi of fuel and is just ment to assist my entire system and keep presure steady. I did'nt trust the stock fpr so I decided on this. I wanted to make sure that not one part of my entire turbo system was over worked. That way I'll get longivity out of it. As for the PVC, I answered that question above. I'm glad you had no damage from the pipe popping off.

I'll get a few more pic's up in the next week or so once my intercooler is in and I've done a little more work to my engine bay.

Thanks again everyone for your kind words and I hope I've helped you guys out with the answers I could give.

Take care.

[side waz]

Hey everyone.

Well I know it's been a while but I had my fmic deal fall through so luck for me my buddy had his old smic lying around. So I grabed it and installed today. I have also painted my valve cover and put that on too. Tomorrow I plan on putting my 4 point strut bar on and from there it's just a few more items to make everything look nice and I'm set for that.

Here are the pic's and my thanks to NICO for the picture hosting. It's great.

An overall shot of my engine bay to start.

Now in this shot, you can see how I used my old DOHC cold air intake pipe and adapted it for use with the smic. The throttle body piece pinched my rad hose and had no hook up for the oil resercualting tube and I did'nt want a $385.00 ticket for using a breather filter. So I improvised. As well, I cut the fan shroud so everything is free and clear and there's no chance of rubbing.

The stock hole in the fender was enlarged and here are both the hot and cold pipes from the smic. Everything is nice and tight and the metal edges have be bent down and tuck against the bottom of the fender area so it won't scratch or cut in to the piping.

Now was'nt this convienent. The other day my liner came lose and the tire made this hole. So now it helps keeps the air flowing right through the intercooler and makes those temp's go down a little more. HAHAHA, could'nt have planned it better my self.

A front shot, through my bumper, at the intercooler. It's held secure by two bolts in the engine bay fender area and two on the side attached to a bracket. She's nice and tight, just how we like it. tee hee

Well as I'm sure you can see my valve cover changed a little. I had never painted things really and I'm not the greatest but I think this turned out very nice.

Finally, one last full shot of my engine bay.

So as more things happen, I for sure keep letting you all know. I'm hopefull to be fully boosting and tunned very soon. Then the REAL fun begins for me.

Well take care everyone and talk to you soon.

Easy