KA for drifting?????

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monkey5
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I'm a dumbass when it comes to engine stuff, but i was wondering if the KA can be made to have full balance to handle turns quickly......its the stock weight distribution on a zenki 50/50 with a KA. i'm also wondering how much HP is needed for drifitng. i know this is kinda the wrong forum, but i need some info...is 190 or 200 enough. i'm not into high hp, all i'm aiming is full balance and turning......


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you can drift with 100 hourspower if you have the right suspension, Ive been drifting with a 95 240 with a mostly stock motor and only slightly tuned suspenionI have video of me fully sideways in third gear on dry tar. Its all about driver, and his ability to contol the vehicle. Drifting is an art.

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i dont have anyproblem and mine fully stock.

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monkey5 wrote:I'm a dumbass when it comes to engine stuff, but i was wondering if the KA can be made to have full balance to handle turns quickly......its the stock weight distribution on a zenki 50/50 with a KA. i'm also wondering how much HP is needed for drifitng. i know this is kinda the wrong forum, but i need some info...is 190 or 200 enough. i'm not into high hp, all i'm aiming is full balance and turning......
Stock weight distribution isn't 50/50....I wish it were. More like 52/48, still pretty close though. Just like with your other post, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY BALANCE? In the sense of mass or in the sense of having good power for multiple tasks? The KA is a very torquey power plant which I would think would be good for drifting because it's easy to kick the back end out at a lower RPM. Not sure though, I've never drifted except for screwin' around in the snow, and I never plan on it.

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contrary to popular belief using power or torque to slide isnt drifting, its powersliding, real drifts are initiated using the brakes,and steering, the throttle is used mainly for modifying drift angle and accelerating post corner, that can be accomplished with as little as 100 hp, it all depends on whether you are drifting for show or for speed. For learning to drift its better to start with an underpowered car, it helps refine your skills. In Japan the Silvia and 180SX have a huge following in the drift culture they are know as the 240SX in America, one of the biggest things that differs between the two is the heavy Iron KA we recieved or the lighter Aluminum SR or CA that was in the Japanese models. Because of this the American models tend to have a slightly one off weight distribution. When I started drifting I wieghed the benefits of the two, the SR is the popular choice but I decided to stick with the KA until I pushed my levels of control a little further, Ive found that the added torque and predictable NA powerband of the KA is a good starting place to teach yourself the root techniques that will carry you into the world of drifting. As I said befor drifting is more about the driver than it is the car. Nowfind a touge near you and go drifting.

if you have any questions, just post a question or message me

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i pretty sure the stock weight distribution is 53/47

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monkey5 wrote:i'm also wondering how much HP is needed for drifitng.
you shouldnt even be thinking about drifting if this is a concern.... go out and drift and build on what is needed to improve...if you dont know how to do that then you suck... alot of my suspension has be upgraded before iv even thought about touching my engine...

the weight between the KA and SR is very little... you wont even notice it.....

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Although i partially agree with sideways = smiles, powersliding in the rain is a great way to practice holding angle, and doing it in parking lots with cones is the best way ever to get down your angle and throttle controll..... thats how i learned. Now once you have it down, you can use brakes if you have the decent enough tires to do it in dry to bust a drift. Master Wet then move to dry.

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Kansei is right, wet parking lots and a few cones will help a great deal, especially when it comes to being comfortable sideways, I wouldnt be where I am today without them.


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