k sport review

[yokota180sx]

Yeah, i was cheap, and i needed something to go lower, which these did

I got the length of shock i needed, springs, and springrates i need.but lets go to the meat and potatoes of the review

Basically, they suckK sport shoudl have revalved them knowing the 18k/16k springs were going on them, but it feels liek they didntThe compression setting is decent, however, the rebound is horribleI hit a dip, on the rebound it makes the *** end bounce way more than the silkroads did, cant really describe it

basically, they suck, ill put some helper springs on it to maybe help it out to soften it out, but we shall see

basically, save your cash for silkroad/stance/CST/etc etc

but they look pretty

[lofapoo]

So... you cheaped out... to go lower...

There's a word people use for people that modify cars cheaply for aesthetic purposes, but I can't put my finger on it right now.

[yokota180sx]

Half ***?But i guess i left out the part where i was going ot rebuild hte silkroads for track use, and these were stictly asthetic?But, the car is sold , so no need. ill just throw them away and the car will be on its wayI knew they would suck, but i didnt thing they woudl this much lol

So... you cheaped out... to go lower...

There's a word people use for people that modify cars cheaply for aesthetic purposes, but I can't put my finger on it right now.

[lofapoo]

Well in that case, there's no point in throwing extra cash on something you're gonna lose money on anyway. I take it this was on the S-chassy?

[yokota180sx]

no the stageai had them on order for like a month and a half, so i didnt know it was going ot be sold

the silkroads were going ot be rebuild and revalved for 18/16 springsthe K sports were so i dont blow the silkroads lol.

but they really do suck, like id rather have stock springs and struts

adn BTW i made 4,000 on the stagea

[mattscar]

Damn... Do they really suck that bad? I was about to pick up a set.

[yokota180sx]

they suck that badi have a ton of track time in the last 4 years, they suck, believe me

[eds13]

good to know!

dad was looking at some for his vert. i'll advise him otherwise. unless he sees this thread before i get the chance...

[RB20DETodd]

I just got rid of mine and getting the greddy type s coilovers, you get what you pay for.

[yokota180sx]

****, thats two things we agreed on

I just got rid of mine and getting the greddy type s coilovers, you get what you pay for.

[funigui]

what u just described doesnt make sense. springs wont make ur car bounce... springs only effect ride height and stiffness. struts effect bounce amount and speed of compression. sounds to me like ur struts are blown... unless its a coilover package.. then im sorry

[yokota180sx]

dudeyouareanidioti wont explain the finer points that your entirely wrong with

what u just described doesnt make sense. springs wont make ur car bounce... springs only effect ride height and stiffness. struts effect bounce amount and speed of compression. sounds to me like ur struts are blown... unless its a coilover package.. then im sorry

[RB20DETodd]

what u just described doesnt make sense. springs wont make ur car bounce... springs only effect ride height and stiffness. struts effect bounce amount and speed of compression. sounds to me like ur struts are blown... unless its a coilover package.. then im sorry

springs only control the bump steer effect when coupled with the max rotory coupling output for the spring used.

[nissans13240sx]

i just sold mine yesterday, i didnt think they were that bad. i did have a pretty bouncy rear and on bumpy roads it was hard to get traction. but smooth roads it felt like my car was on rails.

[funigui]

after rereadine my ase manual and asking a few master techs at my job, ill make sure they rewite the books. according too alll them I was right. now if the spring is soooo stiff it can't compress and you bounce cause of that so be it... but I was correct.

[Repo Man]

****, thats two things we agreed on

If this turns into a Grant/Todd love-fest I'm calling ghey shenanigans...

[cnichols]

Basically, they suckK sport shoudl have revalved them knowing the 18k/16k springs were going on them, but it feels liek they didnt

Am I reading that correctly? 18k/16k not 8k/6k correct?

[Driftless240]

I have KSports, I hate the Bouncynes.... I want/need a stiffer setup, looking at STANCE.

[Chukidori]

after rereadine my ase manual and asking a few master techs at my job, ill make sure they rewite the books. according too alll them I was right. now if the spring is soooo stiff it can't compress and you bounce cause of that so be it... but I was correct.

No, you ARENT correct.

Because you obviously have no idea what coilovers are. You dont have struts on coilovers....its a complete fully adjustable assembly.

THESE are coilovers



your probly thinking of these ..

Keep in mind this guy has had 4 years of track experience. Your just going on what you hear. And if your too inexperienced to ask the right questions, the answers aren't going help you.

Springs control the stiffness, shocks control the bouciness. yes yes your right about that. But you still obviously didnt have a clue what was going on. You just told a guy with coilovers his struts were bad....

Thats almost as bad as telling a RX7 owner his piston rings are fried

[ddgsxr504]

after rereadine my ase manual and asking a few master techs at my job, ill make sure they rewite the books. according too alll them I was right. now if the spring is soooo stiff it can't compress and you bounce cause of that so be it... but I was correct.

The srings on the Ksports are ok, it's the dampners that need to be revalved. They valve their $hit for too broad a range of spring rates.

It is an easy way to cheapily offer more variety.

[Fahaka]

They are still struts, even though they are coilovers, you need to look a suspension theory and understand what a strut is.

Coilover actually is a shortened term for coil over strut, or coil over shock depending on the suspension type.

funigui is right the problem with the Ksport entry level coilovers is in the rebound dampening that causes ricer bounce. You will get that with cheap coilovers. Ksport makes better coilovers that don't have this problem. Has nothing to do with the spring rates or the bound dampening.

[adrianfromthecastle]

Am I reading that correctly? 18k/16k not 8k/6k correct?

eh? Ya same here, I think he meant 8/6

either way, I've read other KrapSport coilover reviews, and they all come to the same conclusion... in regards to cheapness, I'd rather go megan than KrapSport

[Chukidori]

They are still struts, even though they are coilovers, you need to look a suspension theory and understand what a strut is.

Coilover actually is a shortened term for coil over strut, or coil over shock depending on the suspension type.

funigui is right the problem with the Ksport entry level coilovers is in the rebound dampening that causes ricer bounce. You will get that with cheap coilovers. Ksport makes better coilovers that don't have this problem. Has nothing to do with the spring rates or the bound dampening.

Agreed.

However he said "Sounds like you have blown struts" it just..sounds....wrong....


Modified by Chukidori at 9:31 PM 5/25/2007

[yokota180sx]

after rereadine my ase manual and asking a few master techs at my job, ill make sure they rewite the books. according too alll them I was right. now if the spring is soooo stiff it can't compress and you bounce cause of that so be it... but I was correct.

OK let me break it down for you

THe stut alone doesnt mean ****the spring alone doesnt mean ****

THe combination of the two does howeverWIth the incorrect valving of the shock the car handles like pooIf you put a 20k spring on a shock that is vlaved for 10k, its going to be hellaciuosly bouncy because the valving of the shock is weaker than the force of the spring on rebound. whihc is basically what they did.

I have 16/14 on my silkroads, and it road fine no problem.

but regardless, i guess my years of tuning my suspensions on the track has no impact over books.

i hate books.

[yokota180sx]

and yes 18.16

do you SEE whats in my signature

[E7-S14]

ive never thought about getting ksports but i am planing to get either Megan or Stance.. the only problem is money considering the fact the Megans r only about 900..Would you happen to know if megan coilevers are valved correctly?

[DJButton]

This thread is informative with just the right amount of hilarity! Grant and Todd colaborate wonderfully.

[yokota180sx]

megan.ksport.max.all that ****s the same

get stance or silkroad or CST IMO.

[funigui]

sorry dammit I didn't realise it was a coilover setup. I thought they were just springs which was ****in with my mind. anyway I said the same **** in different words... stiff struts make the car seem stiffer and hard springs make the body roll less. they have to be right for each other for them to work perfect. now after reading about the springrates on this fourm it seems like these struts would just suck... either way I still say run coils on track and springs with nice struts on the streets but it all comes down to how u want ur car to handle. lastly my favorite coilovers are the kei office ones... but there in a totally different pricerange and I do know what I'm talking about. to the guy who tuned the track sus. I can admire your skill. the other dude... at least tell me why you thought I was wrong? all in all calm down ppl there just pices of metal

[yokota180sx]

sorry dammit I didn't realise it was a coilover setup. I thought they were just springs which was ****in with my mind. anyway I said the same **** in different words... stiff struts make the car seem stiffer and hard springs make the body roll less. they have to be right for each other for them to work perfect. now after reading about the springrates on this fourm it seems like these struts would just suck... either way I still say run coils on track and springs with nice struts on the streets but it all comes down to how u want ur car to handle. lastly my favorite coilovers are the kei office ones... but there in a totally different pricerange and I do know what I'm talking about. to the guy who tuned the track sus. I can admire your skill. the other dude... at least tell me why you thought I was wrong? all in all calm down ppl there just pices of metal

eh i had kei officethey are too soft for my liking, i sold them a while back