Just installed: "Frozen Rotors" and Hawk pads - all 4 wheels

[M45Caliber]

Received the rotors and pads via UPS Friday. Called my Mechanic Monday and we installed today. I have "before and after" pics but I have never taken the time to figure out how to post them here. I took the opportunity to paint the calipers too. Caliper Paint (900 degree paint) options were: Purple, Yellow, Red, Silver or Black. This is an M, so I wanted something low key. Purple was out, as was Yellow and Red (not going to be a wanna-be Brembo guy) Silver would just blend into the discs, so it ended up being black. Cleaned with laquer thinner first, then painted them while they were still bolted to the old, discarded rotors. They came out nice; looking good on a pearl white car with the chrome rims.

The HAWK pads are awesome -- bedded them per the instructions and WOW -- do these things stop this beast now. A very noticable improvement in the modulation and stopping power. MUCH better overall brake feel too. I am SOLD on this set up.

I will forward pics if someone wants to upload -- or send me "load pics to NICO for Dummies" and I will take a stab at it.
Modified by M45Caliber at 8:24 PM 5/5/2009

[szh]

-- or send me "load pics to NICO for Dummies" and I will take a stab at it.

Here you go ...

zerothread/254009

Z

[jbillion]

If you send me an e-mail, I will post them for you.

[ken in az]

What pads did you go with, the HPS or the full HP version?

[M45Owner]

Received the rotors and pads via UPS Friday. Called my Mechanic Monday and we installed today. I have "before and after" pics but I have never taken the time to figure out how to post them here. I took the opportunity to paint the calipers too. Caliper Paint (900 degree paint) options were: Purple, Yellow, Red, Silver or Black. This is an M, so I wanted something low key. Purple was out, as was Yellow and Red (not going to be a wanna-be Brembo guy) Silver would just blend into the discs, so it ended up being black. Cleaned with laquer thinner first, then painted them while they were still bolted to the old, discarded rotors. They came out nice; looking good on a pearl white car with the chrome rims.

The HAWK pads are awesome -- bedded them per the instructions and WOW -- do these things stop this beast now. A very noticable improvement in the modulation and stopping power. MUCH better overall brake feel too. I am SOLD on this set up.

I will forward pics if someone wants to upload -- or send me "load pics to NICO for Dummies" and I will take a stab at it.

Modified by M45Caliber at 8:24 PM 5/5/2009

how much for this setup without the paint?

[InfinitiMe]

Dude awesome I got the same and I'm getting the car back from the dealership tonight.

I wanted to paint the calipers red but I'll have that done another time.

Glad you like the performance. I can't wait to break these things in and have some nice stoppage power.

For the poster asking about price I originally ordered the power slot cryo rotors and hawk pads (HPS) but Frozen Rotors was on back-order for the power slot so they actually price matched on the slightly more expensive frozen rotters slotted for me. It came out to about 860 bucks for everything including shipping.

[ken in az]

For the poster asking about price I originally ordered the power slot cryo rotors and hawk pads (HPS) but Frozen Rotors was on back-order for the power slot so they actually price matched on the slightly more expensive frozen rotters slotted for me. It came out to about 860 bucks for everything including shipping.

Holy Moly, that's alotta dip! My next upgrade will be the G37sport BBK w/o FR but when they need replaced I will definitely go that route. I'm half temped to try and see if I can get a caliper paint color matched to the stock pearl white color of my car. I think that would look hot against the gunmetal rims.

[InfinitiMe]

Holy Moly, that's alotta dip! My next upgrade will be the G37sport BBK w/o FR but when they need replaced I will definitely go that route. I'm half temped to try and see if I can get a caliper paint color matched to the stock pearl white color of my car. I think that would look hot against the gunmetal rims.

That would look awesome with gunmetal rims and a white car.

[dieselm35x]

I'm half temped to try and see if I can get a caliper paint color matched to the stock pearl white color of my car. I think that would look hot against the gunmetal rims.

If you want, you can try G2. I know they have white. I've used a few of their paints for some work I did on some Hondas and Acuras a little while ago.

http://www.g2usa.com/Merchant2...de=G2

White is a great color for caliper paint, but is rarely used for anything other than show cars due to it constantly having to be cleaned. After about 2 weeks of heavy driving, it looks like the stock unpainted caliper.

Good luck though. If you don't mind cleaning it often, then you should be okay.

[DRIPS]

I did EBS and Hawk pads for less than half of these. However, I have read great things about the frozen rotors, so you will have to let us all know if you really do get twice as much rotor longevity as they say you will on the site. GL.

Next time do your own brakes! You coulda saved a bundle and its real easy!!

[InfinitiMe]

I've only put about 50 miles on mine but they feel great already. No more jerky slowing down between certain speeds. Should have some really nice stopping power once they break in

[SammyTheBull]

I need new brakes on my 06 M35. I really want to replace my rotors with something that is drilled/ slotted and paint the calipers as well. Could you PLEASE post pics of your finished product, so i can get a better idea of how it looks.

Thanks

[ken in az]

If you want, you can try G2. I know they have white. I've used a few of their paints for some work I did on some Hondas and Acuras a little while ago.

http://www.g2usa.com/Merchant2...de=G2

White is a great color for caliper paint, but is rarely used for anything other than show cars due to it constantly having to be cleaned. After about 2 weeks of heavy driving, it looks like the stock unpainted caliper.

Good luck though. If you don't mind cleaning it often, then you should be okay.

Hey thanks, and I just found that they do color matching - exactly what I was looking for!

here's the link...

http://g2usa.com/colormatch.shtml

[InfinitiMe]

M45caliper: how are you breaking in your equipment? The instructions with the FR aren't very detailed; I think they just say to do relatively soft, steady braking for the first 150 miles or so.

I read a more detailed guide although it was for a more serious setup that had actual speeds; it said to brake from 60-40 about 8 times, then from 40-10 a bunch of times, then repeat another cycle until the firmness increases.

[M45Caliber]

I just sent the pics to Jesse to post for me -- work is crazy right now and I don't even have the 10 minutes to figure this out... the pics were already photoshoped to web page size, so he should be able to post them easily for me.

After a long discussion with Bill/President of FR, I decided to go with their premium non-slotted/drilled rotor. The Thrumming noise from the slots being the main reason, plus he said that unless I race the thing, the standard FR's should be fine -- combined with a lifetime warranty to back that up. I went with the HAWk HPS --- once again, an a recommendation from Bill.

About $630 shipped (there's a 10% discount code you can use) and my mechanic charged me $180 to install ALL four corners. Took him about 2 hours and that included cleaning the calipers and painting them. Paint is cheap -- $ 10 at SpaceAge auto paint. Clean with laquer thinner. The pics will show you how they came out. Bottom line is I now have very linear strong brakes.

[M45Caliber]

Bedding in the HAWK insructions included with the pads --- 10 stops from 35 mph - moderately. another 6 to 10 stops from 60, moderately. Then good to go. FR ssaid 100 to 150 miles moderate should work -- enjoy!

[infinitiandbeyond]

Caliber - BINGO! Entire thread summed up in your last two posts.

I can't figure out why so many ppl seem to be hung up on slotted or drilled rotors for a 4K lb sedan?! It is what it is.

[M45Caliber]

Caliber - BINGO! Entire thread summed up in your last two posts.

I can't figure out why so many ppl seem to be hung up on slotted or drilled rotors for a 4K lb sedan?! It is what it is.

Looks baby, looks --- gotta admit that slotted/drilled rotors with red calipers is the shizzle... however it's overkill on a Y34 at least. Maybe if I were 20 years younger I'd do it "just because" ----

[ken in az]

Looks baby, looks --- gotta admit that slotted/drilled rotors with red calipers is the shizzle... however it's overkill on a Y34 at least. Maybe if I were 20 years younger I'd do it "just because" ----

I agree, slots and drilled is for looks however when I go with the G37 sport brake kit I'll be drilling and slotting for weight reduction to retain the original rotor mass - or at least get as close to it as possible. For looks I want the caliper I can care less about what the rotor looks like. as long as it isn't rusted to crap. And honestly even if I were racing I would stick with non drilled non slotted rotors - cryo'd with some racing pads. When racing you need all the rotor mass you can get to help absorb and dissapate the heat. I remember a rotor company that used a proprietary steel alloy with no holes or slots as a racing rotor, they were at sema but I can't remember their name.

[jbillion]

I will forward pics if someone wants to upload -- or send me "load pics to NICO for Dummies" and I will take a stab at it.

Modified by M45Caliber at 8:24 PM 5/5/2009

[jbillion]

I've got slotted and drilled roters but did not paint the calipers. I'm about to go detail the car, afterwords I will take a pic and post. They have been on the car for almost a year now, so they are not bright and shiny like Bill's.

[InfinitiMe]

Mine are warming up very nicely (FR slotted front/rear and Hawk HPS) Braking, especially at higher speeds is SIGNIFICANTLY better than stock. Incredibly smooth and requires just a light application of the brakes. Coming to a full stop from slower speeds is a pleasure too; no more jerky stopping from 40-20mph like I used to have. I haven't gotten used to this smoothness yet so I still expect the jerkiness, and when I don't feel it it's such a pleasant feeling.

Still got 50 miles or so in the bedding period and then I'm going to give it a couple of firm punches (just to test).

[M45Caliber]

Jesse -- thanks for posting the pics for me... they came out OK considering I was using my cheap-azz camera I leave in the car... some tiny Casio 7meg point and shoot.

[iPencil]

So M45Caliber, you've had your frozen rotors for a few months.

How do you like them by now?

I need to get new rotors for my m35x and am looking at getting frozen rotors, but i'm not sure whether to get the slotted or not.

[szh]

Bedding in the HAWK insructions included with the pads --- 10 stops from 35 mph - moderately. another 6 to 10 stops from 60, moderately. Then good to go. FR ssaid 100 to 150 miles moderate should work -- enjoy!

Only one modification I would suggest ... don't come to a complete halt for those multiple braking sessions. This leaves hot pad material in contact with the rotor at one point on the surface!

Much better to get to just barely rolling and then start off again.

Z

[M45Caliber]

funny you should ask -- I dropped in to see my friend/neighbor/mechanic buddy yesterday as there's a kick-a** Mex joint near his shop that I dig for lunch. I mentioned that the brakes are actually BETTER than ever and I must be wearing the crap out of the pads as this thing stops so freaking good now.

He popped the car up on his rack and pulled one front and one back wheel and we looked at the rotors and pads. He was amazed as there is no discernable wear on either and I now have almost 5K miles on them (2 trips out to Cali this summer).

They are still as smooth as a baby's arse when applying the pedal and tractor beam strong. This was the best thing I've done to a car in a LONG time. Couldn't be happier. And this during a summer that has been VERY hot and taxing on brakes, for sure.

[szh]

you need all the rotor mass you can get to help absorb and dissapate the heat

Yes, indeed!

Even when not racing on a track.

Z

[babun]

Where did you order these from?

Thanks

[M45Caliber]

rotors and pads -- both from www Frozenrotors.com. There's a discount code in one of the 2 or three threads running around here on brakes (maybe this one) which will get you 10% off. SEARCH for it.

BTW -- the Pres. of Frozen Rotors (whom I spoke to) recommended NOT getting the ceramic pads, which I originally wanted (badly) as he said that often times these pads will have hot spots due to the ceramics and cause warpage on their own. I was initially sceptical of the Hawk HPS pads, but after 5,000 miles I am a convert. Zero dust, no noise, and awesome stopping power.

[InfinitiMe]

m45 - do you have any noise from these at certain speeds? I've got the exact same set up on my 35x. After they were installed I noticed a howling noise at certain speeds. I've had them now for about 4 months. The speed at which you hear it has changed over the months but right now it's loudest at 60-65 and 80-85. Everything else checks out it looks like, so it seems like its the rotors. Have you experienced anything similar?