Just another anti-street racing story...

Post by **Rockenreno** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

http://www.sacbee.com/content/....html

This guy is one of my best friends (Bican). I've known him for 6 years and he is a great guy, now he has 90 days in jail, 5 months house arrest, and no driving for 3 years. It wasn't even his fault, the motorcycle he was racing hit a bottle, and my friend had to pay for the kid's death. Bottom line: don't street race, even if you are good, the other guy can be stupid and you will get screwed because you were involved. Not worth it.:nono

Post by **fiznat** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

christ that's messed up... you never know whats gonna happen out there on the road... I cant even imagine how your friend felt when he saw that bike wreck right in front of him.... wow.

keep it on the track, boys.

Post by **Dano** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

Thats sad, sorry to hear it! yet another reason to keep it on the track...

-Dan

Post by **MainEvent212** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

i still dont see why HE got jail time for it

i understand a fine, i'd even understand community service, but jail time?

it's not like the biker fell and then got run over...he fell and hit the sign under his own "will" for lack of better term

either way, bikes shouldnt race cars period...but racing belongs on the track and controlled environments (air strips etc..)

Post by **Onizuka** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

mainevent212 wrote:i still dont see why HE got jail time for it

HE got jail time because HE participated in a illigal race that resulted in the death of another, im suprized he didn't get more like 5 years in jail.....

Rockenreno, i understand that it wasnt your freinds fault and im glad he plans to never street race again.

Personally i think street racers are ***holes (in general), it is because of them that the police are on my a$$ everywhere i go just because my car is modified...

Website · Post by **daniel240** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

J-Spec Tuner wrote:
Personally i think street racers are ***holes (in general), it is because of them that the police are on my a$$ everywhere i go just because my car is modified...

:Werd

Post by **maxpower** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

look, race tracks are not surrounded by guardian angels either. It is just that the > amount of people with lower IQs on the street outweigh the track population, thus crap like this happens.

more street racing eyecandy:http://www.shift240.com/street

Post by **nlzmo400r** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

maxpower wrote:look, race tracks are not surrounded by guardian angels either. It is just that the > amount of people with lower IQs on the street outweigh the track population, thus crap like this happens.

more street racing eyecandy:http://www.shift240.com/street

gotta admit, that link scares the **** outta me, i gotta find a track, im done with street racing, either imma find a track, or imma build the damn thing myself, i cant believe that, its just like ,jawdropping, speechless, i just gotta find a track(wish they had one roun here, anyone know a site where i can find a road course or strip near me??)

Post by **Onizuka** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

i have to drive at least an hour to get to do any type of racing, just ask around, you'll find somewhere to race legally.

Post by **MR2NER** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

1st of all sportbikes have no buisness racing out there. they're speeding death traps anyway.

2nd, that kid had nothing to do with that guy hitting a friggin bottle. jail time for what he did is ridiculus.

Post by **Onizuka** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

he isnt directly responsible for the death but he fled the crime scene (but he was brave enough to turn himself in) and admited to street racing. his sentencing was light.....

Website · Post by **daniel240** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

im lucky i got a track right down the street from my house, i can hear the cars all the time. to bad that its only a 1/8 though.

Post by **Phax** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

And just a couple of posts above this one, some guy is looking for a way to remove the speed governor so he can chase after Civics who pass him.

Post by **fiznat** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

maxpower wrote:more street racing eyecandy:http://www.shift240.com/street

Oh my god man. That's the kind of **** that scares me to death. As some of you probably know, I work as an EMT... I've seen a couple bad MVAs (motor vehicle accidents), but NOTHING like that... for the love of god I hope I never do. In a situation like that they just bring in the coroner and send us EMTs back to work.... wow.

Post by **milo** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

I'm sorry but the punishment is ****ing rediculous.

This kid said "Sure i'll race."

The guy driving the car didn't hit him or anything, it was the driver's own bad luck really.

Nobody forced him to race, he raced, **** happened, but the other guy should NOT get ****ed in the *** that badly for that.

I can understand huge punishments for kids who are streetracing and ****ing hit some pedestrian, but if one of the racers ****s up, it really should not be the other racer's fault.

Post by **wingzero** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

That's a damn shame......

Post by **krazy skwerel** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

this is very sad.

Post by **SCOOTER240** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

THE PROBLEM WITH MOST RACING FACILITIES IS THEY DON'T SEEM TO HAVE MANY RACES WHEN MOST STREET RACERS ARE OUT-AND IF THEY DO ALLOW STREET TYPE CARS THEY ALSO REQUIRE THAT YOU HAVE ALL OF THE FULL RACE TYPE EQUIPMENT-HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE THE STATE OWNED THE LAND THAT THE DRAG RACE TRACK WAS ON-THEY DECIDED TO SHUT DOWN THE TRACK DUE TO NOISE CONCERNS EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE NUMEROUS AIR PORT RUNWAYS NEAR BY AND THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL AREA IS 8 MILES AWAY-WELL ANYWAY AFTER THEY SHUT THE TRACK DOWN STREET RACING BECAME EPIDEMIC-ACCIDENTS AND DATHS SKYROCKETED-SO AFTER A YEAR THEY FINALLY DECIDED TO OPEN IT BACK UP-ONLY THIS TIME WITH STREET STYLE GRUDGE RACES-GUESS WHAT STREET RACING ACCIDENTS AND DEATHS ARE DOWN(GO FIGURE!!!) WELL ANY WAY STREET RACING WILL ALWAYS BE A PART OF LIFE AS LONG AS CRS CAN BE MADE TO GO FASTERWE JUST HAVE TO DO OUR PART TO BE SENSIBLE AND TRY TO AT LEAST FIND A SAFER RACING AREA

Post by **skydragoness** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

J-Spec Tuner wrote:Personally i think street racers are ***holes (in general), it is because of them that the police are on my a$$ everywhere i go just because my car is modified...

:Werd (again)

Post by **ZERO** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

I have been actually working on a letter to the Police superintendent of Puerto Rico to try and get him to start some programs to get racing off the streets. Do you guys have any ideas for programs that could help out?

The problem with PR is that thre is a track right outside San Juan, which is the metro area. This one is a quarter mile track. It is in some guys back yard pretty much, but as some of you might know it is a tropical island and it tends to rain just a little bit every day. The other two track are about an hour and a third one(recently opened up and I haven't had a chance to see it) at about an hour and a half away.

These tracks open up on wednesdays and saturdays. heres the deal. there are 3 track that open up two times a week, sometimes less depending on the weather. And there are about 66 counties there with at least 2 or 3 street racing spots each and each one of these spots has about 15 to 30 cars each that are itching to put the pedal to the floor.

You do the math, oh and for autocross, its only once a month.

Post by **Cyberkreig** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

maxpower wrote:look, race tracks are not surrounded by guardian angels either. It is just that the > amount of people with lower IQs on the street outweigh the track population, thus crap like this happens.

more street racing eyecandy:http://www.shift240.com/street

that website is a powerful message.. But you should warn people if something is that graphic. Some of us have had people die in car accidents, and we dont want to imagine the pain or the carnage.

Post by **Zebrahead** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

MR2NER wrote:1st of all sportbikes have no buisness racing out there. they're speeding death traps anyway.

2nd, that kid had nothing to do with that guy hitting a friggin bottle. jail time for what he did is ridiculus.

If he hadn't initiated the race, the guy on the bike would have never hit that bottle. It wasn't FULLY the guy's fault, but legally he is partially.

Nick.

Post by **Rockenreno** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

Plain and simple, my friend should not have been there racing. I don't think he has returned to street race since the accident, he started going to the track instead... which was a good decision.

All in all, it was just a bad experience. I will admit I accompanied my friends to the races 2 or 3 times because it was exciting and I was just getting into cars. After those few times though, I saw a few accidents and decided it really wasn't worth it when I could watch much more interesting racing in TV and not risk death (same friends almost got run over by an out of control IROC Camaro a few weeks earlier).

A lot of street racers are ***holes, but not all of them, so don't generalize too much. I agree that it sucks that mostly because of idiotic street racers, other modified car owners must suffer as well. It is unfair.

I just hope that through all these horrible stories, we can prevent others from suffering the same fate. And as someone mentioned above, the availability of tracks would help prevent street racing quite a bit!

Despite all excuses, when it comes down to it a race isn't worth your life... and in my friend's case, his future...

Post by **djtodd** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

Jesus christ at least put SOME KIND OF DISCLAIMER!!!!!!!!!! at the top of that accident page. That's totally sickening!!

:bash :drooling

Post by **Get240DiZzY** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

Jesus, that site scares me ****less, and there's no too much that can do that. That website sends a powerful message, but you really do need a disclaimer, because severed limbs are somthing I need to see while I'm eating. Or ever for that matter.

P.S. Scooter man, you don't gotta shout.

Post by **SmithSR** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

MR2NER wrote:1st of all sportbikes have no buisness racing out there. they're speeding death traps anyway.

2nd, that kid had nothing to do with that guy hitting a friggin bottle. jail time for what he did is ridiculus.

A bike can be as safe as the operator chooses it to be. I say "can" be because there are always some idiots who act like they own the road with their minivan and dont bother looking before changing lanes. More often than not, riders are more alert, more aware of their surroundings and are able to act quicker than the average moron on the road. Its not proper to say that bikes are deathtraps.

Post by **Rockenreno** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

bikes are deathtraps because they have no protection around you. If you crash then you are much more likely to die if you are riding a motorcycle than if you are driving a car. Even if you are great driver you can die much more easily on a bike...

Post by **SmithSR** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

operator error still plays just as much of a role on a bike. You people must have never ridden before. Bikes CAN be a safe mode of transport... if you stay smart and alert and don't do stupid ****.

Post by **Rockenreno** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

SmithSR-You said it yourself, you never know when some idiot in a minivan will pull out and hit you... It is really scary to think about. I know I have considered buying a bike because it is cheap, easy to find parking on college campus, and great fuel economy. The downsides of no space to carry anything and death kinda threw me off though :pface

Post by **SmithSR** » Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:15 pm

i agree with you, but bikes are not themselves a dangerous tool. same goes for a handgun. both CAN be lethal, but only under worst case situations.

Just another anti-street racing story...

Just another anti-street racing story...

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