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woot 17x10 +25

i just got this pair, 17x9 +15 for the front is still on the slow boat from japan. I found a 245/40r17 in the back of a gas station the other day so i think im gonna go to some used tire shops and try to find another in the same size. does anyone know if it would damage my diff running tires with different tread height left to right? but i guess that wouldnt really be a problem since used tire places only have stuff at half tread anyway.

when i get the other 2, time to break out the baseball bat :ylsuper


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niiiiiiiiiice! :D

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Damnit, I'll be a member soon. They look great! Definately post pics because Im interested in the same setup in a different color.

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You need to run the same tires in the rear... else you can damage the diff because of the different levels of grip.

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Looking nice!

What size tires are you planning on running?

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where did you order them from? how long did they take to come in? i might go with another set with better offsets

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Nismo_Freak wrote:You need to run the same tires in the rear... else you can damage the diff because of the different levels of grip.


k thanks, thats what i was thinking , dont want to trash the diff.

probably gonna run (dont yell at me) 235/40 all around.

i got them from hopupracing.com they had the back 2 in stock but i think it will be another 2 weeks before the fronts come. if you just want a different offset i would just get spacers. but if you really want to get another set they have great prices.

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yea thats who i was planning on going with. i was thinkin abotu spacers but i hear good and bad things. i rather jsut do it right and get some new wheels. i might go with different sizes but prolly not

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I'd run a 225 in the front and a 245 or 255 in the rear. That's just me though.

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Is a 235/40-17 on a 17x9" wide wheel possible up front? What about a 245/40-17 with lots of fender mangling(rolling and pulling)?

I know you have an S14, but it's about the same up front as an S13 right?

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yea it is with a +15 offset

dori - i dont have enough power for that lol

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enough power for that?

dude, you should know contatct paths isnt govered(area wise)by the width of the tire..

a 255 is much more at home on that wide of a wheel..

try running a 245-40-17 and a 255-40-17. that'd be much better suited to those wheels.def- s14's have about .5"-1" more clearance than s13's do.235-40-17's will be super stretched on a 10" wheel, I dont reccomend it.

if your going to run the 235's run those up front and a 255 in the back, but the 245/255 f/r setup would work lots better(and allow the tire to do its job better by matching the wheeld with)-chet

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I joined too



Awesome price, had to jump aboard. Going to switch them to track wheels in a couple months when I pick up something slightly *nicer*

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Its now an epidemic

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Dori Dori
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How'd you get black? I thought that you couldn't get flat black in those sizes...tell, tell, tell! :D

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Dori Dori wrote:How'd you get black? I thought that you couldn't get flat black in those sizes...tell, tell, tell! :D


Yeah, it's a pretty tough process. I had to call Wayne at phase2, and ASK him nicely to order me a set of 5chicken FN01R-C in 17x9 +15. He then had to call Alex at 5chicken who responded that they had a set in stock and could deliver sometime the following week. The wheels then had to be loaded onto a truck and delivered to phase2 where I was forced to get in my car and drive to to pick up said wheels. I then wrote Wayne a check with a pen I had to rummage through his desk for. Then he wrote me out an invoice for the wheels, and I was forced to drive home.

Just call your favorite shop and ask. They are available in that size.

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Exar-Kun wrote:enough power for that?
nope hahaha, thats why im running narrow tires. the wheels themselves arent very heavy, 2 pounds more than a stock s14 wheel so i think i should be able to handle it with my measly power.
Exar-Kun wrote:dude, you should know contatct paths isnt govered(area wise)by the width of the tire..
yep yep, i bought these to strech the tires, not because i am under the incorrect impression that huge wheel = more traction
Exar-Kun wrote:a 255 is much more at home on that wide of a wheel..try running a 245-40-17 and a 255-40-17. that'd be much better suited to those wheels.

235-40-17's will be super stretched on a 10" wheel, I dont reccomend it.
yea you are right on both counts, but im gonna use them for drifting so thats why im gonna stretch them a little. st115 in 235/40 is approved for 8 - 9.5" wheel so i figure i should be ok.
Exar-Kun wrote:if your going to run the 235's run those up front and a 255 in the back, but the 245/255 f/r setup would work lots better(and allow the tire to do its job better by matching the wheeld with)-chet
i was looking at staggering tire sizes, but what would be the point on a neutrally balanced car? i dont really want MORE understeer then i already have, any other reason to run wider in the rear?

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Exar-Kun wrote:try running a 245-40-17 and a 255-40-17. that'd be much better suited to those wheels.def- s14's have about .5"-1" more clearance than s13's do.235-40-17's will be super stretched on a 10" wheel, I dont reccomend it.

if your going to run the 235's run those up front and a 255 in the back, but the 245/255 f/r setup would work lots better(and allow the tire to do its job better by matching the wheeld with)-chet


Let me clarify... I made a thread on FA just to get the opinion of the regulars over there(and to add to my 2 post count... heh), and the consensus was that a 17x9" wheel will NOT fit the front of an S13 with anything wider than a 215 tire. Which is obviously not optimal to say the least.

I'm more interested in running a 17x9" frt and 17x10" rear setup. I'm thinking either 225/45-17's up front(too narrow IMO, although they are "wide" Kumho MXs) or 245/40-17's(preferred) on the 17x9"s. I was basically told that even with a wide fender to give maybe 1.5" more clearance and proper offset, that I would have to TUB the front wheelwells. I was never really told why I would have to do this, but I assume it would have to be due to rubbing under steering lock? +15 offset and rolled fenders or wider fenders should put the wheel far enough away from the coilover.

Rears I'm looking at either 255/40-17's or 275/40-17's on the 17x10" wheels and rolled fenders. +25 offset should do just fine.

So is my front setup feasible on the 17x9" wide wheels on an S13? I will curse a great deal and mold up some wider fenders up front if that's necessary, which it seems like it may be.

I don't want to go with a greater than 1 inch stagger, as I only forsee a max of 350ish rwhp, and it might actually be less than that. The car will definitely be front heavy after I strip it too. If this setup doesn't work, I'll go with the tried and true 17x8 up front and 17x9 out back. That's still alot of tire, but I'm building this car to excess and it won't really cost me much if any extra to go 1 inch wider all around if things fit like I think they will.

This car is destined to be a supercar killer(or at least P-Car humiliator:)) on the track when I get my skill level up to the same awesomeness I hope to build the car to, so these tires sizes are absolutely not out of the question or too large. Heck, I kill 245/40-17's in no time due to heat in my 3150lb M3, and the average supercar weighs about the same as a stripped 240SX and has WAY wider tires.

Sorry to hijack the thread, but I don't quite think it's worth of a new topic.

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why you worried about fitting the front wheels if you say you are willing to mangle the fender and such? you could run 19x14.5 -5 andrew v's in the front if you mod enough

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Let me put it this way, I'm willing to pull the fenders to their limits and even mold up fiberglass wider fenders. Yet I was told I'd have to tub the front wheelwells - but never really given a reason.

I'd just hate to buy the wheels, mount the tires then find out there is no way they will fit.

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Wow those are awsome! I usually don't like those rims but the offset and size that you got, they look just sooo good. Makes me want to get a set! Post some pics after you install them!

Def, Cool you own an E36 ///M3 too huh? I've got a 97 4door. After owning an M3 I got hooked on FR layout so I like the styling of the S13 and decided to buy one. Anyways its good to see another person with an S13 and an E36

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Mwahaha! Our little club is growing...

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ChunkiDori wrote:Yeah, it's a pretty tough process. I had to call Wayne at phase2, and ASK him nicely to order me a set of 5chicken FN01R-C in 17x9 +15. He then had to call Alex at 5chicken who responded that they had a set in stock and could deliver sometime the following week. The wheels then had to be loaded onto a truck and delivered to phase2 where I was forced to get in my car and drive to to pick up said wheels. I then wrote Wayne a check with a pen I had to rummage through his desk for. Then he wrote me out an invoice for the wheels, and I was forced to drive home.

Just call your favorite shop and ask. They are available in that size.


I asked because the 5zigen website says Matt black is only avail in 15" and 16" sizes...anything larger is Hyper Black (gunmetal) which I'm not a fan of. Thanks though.

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Can someone show me a pic of the different offsets on thier car? I like the idea of a sick offset, but on the s14 I have--i dont want them to stick out too far on the car. I was looking to get the 35 offset in the 17s and run a 8 up front and a 9 in the rear. if anyone has teh same wheels either in 18's or 17's--help me out with a pic so I can look at how the 15mm offset will look on the car.

Thanks,

Josh---

btw--that 15 offset looks great wth the spokes flared like that--those wheels look really sweeet--im torn between gunmetal and bronze.

-Josh

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the +15 sticks out a little less than an inch from the rear fender, dont buy it if you dont want to pull fenders/camber them in

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check out my cardomain site in my sig. i have 17x8 front with a 35 offset and 17x9 rear with a 43 offset. they sit about .5-.75" inside the fenders from pictureing it in my head. if i could go back i would get 27 up front and 35 in the back with the same sizes so i could clear coilovers and to make them more flush

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+35, +43 on an 8/9 inch wheel. all those offsets are trash. if you want them to look decent, prepare to use 10-15mm spacers if you get +35.

Those offsets are hardly 'sick' offsets.

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tell me about it. i was debating on getting new wheels with better offsets or spacers. if i had any idea when i ordered them last year i would not have gotten what the company gave me

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kim wrote:Def, Cool you own an E36 ///M3 too huh? I've got a 97 4door. After owning an M3 I got hooked on FR layout so I like the styling of the S13 and decided to buy one. Anyways its good to see another person with an S13 and an E36


Yep, but the ///M3 is currently for sale to make room for the S13 and a better daily driver. I got hooked on FR and in the process started hitting the track pipe. Let's just say I'm going to drop MAD money on this S13 to make it a giant killer on the track. Surprisingly, it does some things BETTER than a mildly modded M3 in stock form with blown bushings and dead suspension. The turn-in is amazing for how much crap is wrong in this car's suspension. My S13 is pretty darn light for a hatch though, with NO options except A/C. Just how I want it!

Does anyone have a reasonable idea of what is required to fit some 17x9" wheels and 245/40-17 tires up front on an S13 though? I guess I'm getting so many conflicting reports I'm just going to have to buy them then make them work and report back here. Oh well - might as well do something new in the Nissan community right off the bat. :)

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ChunkiDori are you 4 lug or 5 lug


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