Jdm Drift Gt Style Wings

Post by **explod3** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

where the hell can us deprived americans purchase those giant carbon fiber GT style wings. I'm not talking about the ebay Bullsh*t. I mean a name brand, over the roof, functional wing with supports at the side and not the middle. I need one for my car.. for both looks and practical application. Anyone know any websites? I'm not paying $3,000 for one from cusco.

Post by **yeswepromise** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

wow. you need one? for practical application? cool. i dont know if you can get one for very cheap unless you decide to get some cheap asss piece of crap wing

Post by **explod3** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

well i'm willing to pay up to 1k. But 3k is just too insane. I know japanese people dont pay that much for theirs, and i'm wondering if anyone in america carries those, since recently a lot of companies have started carrying true jdm body kits.

Post by **nismofan14** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

cwest has one for a grand. Carbon fiber and all that good ****.

Post by **SmithSR** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

This intrigues me. What is your practical application?

Post by **theronin** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

SmithSR wrote:This intrigues me. What is your practical application?

Duh poser... to me JdM MaD TiZyT3

Post by **Megaseth** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

HHAHA, nice. but back to the question, the Japanese people do pay insane amounts for those things. and finding one will only cost you more. the Japanese are about quality and doing things right the first time. they dont mind the expenses.

Post by **explod3** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

Quote »Duh poser... to me JdM MaD TiZyT3[/quote]

ronin what the hell do you know?

my car pushes 350 hp at the wheels NOT at the flywheel, i've invested over 15k into my motor, and thats WITH a full ride on certain parts. I'm sponsored by several shops, and I do autocross as well as full track racing. I had a final konnexion body kit which i bet you've never even heard of, on my car before anyone in the US even started selling them. My motor is tuned for quick response and not raw end horse power making it an ultimate track car, and I need the wing for downforce.. OBVIOUSLY. I spin tires through 4th gear, and 5th gear still chirps. I run full racing slicks. Educate yourself before you hate next time. Just because I dont post a lot doesn't mean i'm some newbie ricer.

JDM IS TYTE MY ***.. everything has a practical application. I have canards on the front and a carbon fiber diffuser in the rear. and yes, it does help.

it's cynical bastards like you that ruin internet forums. people come here to post and for advice, not to get insulted. Even if someone was a "ricer" you can still educate them or steer them in the right direction.

Post by **NeedCAforS13** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

not to be a cynical bastard

but do you have any pics...alot of us tend to be untrustful of new members, cause often we get the morons that come on here sayin they've got 500 hp and thier car does 200 mph so they NEED a huge wing! lol, not saying you're a moron like that at all, I'd just like to see some pics!:D

Sean

Post by **encasemyheart** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

explod3 wrote:ronin what the hell do you know?

my car pushes 350 hp at the wheels NOT at the flywheel, i've invested over 15k into my motor, and thats WITH a full ride on certain parts. I'm sponsored by several shops, and I do autocross as well as full track racing. I had a final konnexion body kit which i bet you've never even heard of, on my car before anyone in the US even started selling them. My motor is tuned for quick response and not raw end horse power making it an ultimate track car, and I need the wing for downforce.. OBVIOUSLY. I spin tires through 4th gear, and 5th gear still chirps. I run full racing slicks. Educate yourself before you hate next time. Just because I dont post a lot doesn't mean i'm some newbie ricer.

JDM IS TYTE MY ***.. everything has a practical application. I have canards on the front and a carbon fiber diffuser in the rear. and yes, it does help.

it's cynical bastards like you that ruin internet forums. people come here to post and for advice, not to get insulted. Even if someone was a "ricer" you can still educate them or steer them in the right direction.

So you are trying to be JdM TyTe YoYoYYoYOyoyoy!!!1!!@!!!1!!??

I also did a quick search for you and found this, maybe you should have searched? This is exactly what you are looking for:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...55073

Pics installed would be nice.

Post by **explod3** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

i'm not TRYING to be rice. and no i am not copying the japanese. I am japanese. I lived in japan for 10 years. I've driven my cousins r32 and his friends evo 4.

Spoilers used on GT cars in japan produce more downforce with less of an angle of attack. If you look closely the center piece on the JDM wings are flat, while the sides angle downward. More downforce, less resistance. These rice spoilers require a really large angle of attack in order to produce the same amount of downforce as the "e-wings" type of spoilers. Plus if you want a large amount of downforce it needs to be at or above the roof level of your car.

Post by **TomsMR2** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

.. so you wanna pay 1K for a carbon fiber wing... and you're claiming its not rice? LOLOL. good job buddy.

any adjustable spoiler will work. aluminum is light as hell anyways, no need to pay almost 3x as much for a CF model. just get a bigass tall spoiler, with adjustable angle... im absolutely positive you can get a well designed one for sub $500.

Post by **theronin** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

explod3 wrote:i'm not TRYING to be rice. and no i am not copying the japanese. I am japanese. I lived in japan for 10 years. I've driven my cousins r32 and his friends evo 4.

Spoilers used on GT cars in japan produce more downforce with less of an angle of attack. If you look closely the center piece on the JDM wings are flat, while the sides angle downward. More downforce, less resistance. These rice spoilers require a really large angle of attack in order to produce the same amount of downforce as the "e-wings" type of spoilers. Plus if you want a large amount of downforce it needs to be at or above the roof level of your car.

Hey man i was just commenting on how you asked the question... a jdm drift style wing doesnt sound too technical to me! maybe you could have explained why you needed it and the circumstances to avoid some of the flack? Oh and fyi... just cause you have driven an r32 and evo 4 doesnt mean you cant be rice, neither does being japanese. the awesome art of rice supercedes all ethnicities, race, and origins... it is just that COOL:ylsuper !

Post by **explod3** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

nono you dont understand. theres two types of rice. theres american fast and furious NOS and neon lights rice. then theres the JDM ghetto body style, 1cm off the ground, super negative cambered 18" rims, gigantic spoiler kinda rice. JDM rice is my kinda rice.

my car is an exact clone of this car.. minus the spoiler and stickers.

Post by **theronin** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

explod3 wrote:nono you dont understand. theres two types of rice. theres american fast and furious NOS and neon lights rice. then theres the JDM ghetto body style, 1cm off the ground, super negative cambered 18" rims, gigantic spoiler kinda rice. JDM rice is my kinda rice.

my car is an exact clone of this car.. minus the spoiler and stickers.

Congratulations

Post by **yeswepromise** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

i would just like to say that i wuldnt mind a final konnexion kit. i think i would go with MSports instead.

Post by **SmithSR** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

Explod3: where are you located, and who are your sponsors, and why can't you get a deal, or at least a better price on a wing from a shop? None of the shops that sponsor you know anything about where to get a wing?? Or don't know anybody who can help you in any way?? I'm trying not to be critical, maybe your sponsors are all machine shops and/or engine parts suppliers that don't know where to find body pieces...? It just seems rather odd that you have invested so much $$ in your car and have never come into contact with anybody who can order you a *specific* wing.

Post by **explod3** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

well.. a company like APC might make a spoiler thats functional, but say if you bought a spoiler from a company like cwest they actually wind tunnel test it, and take it to a track and actually test it out to see if it improves their lap time etc. They engineer their spoilers to be effective. Like i said.. the cheap spoilers require a really steep angle of attack and on top of that they flex. That's why i want a spoiler with the supports at the sides and not in the middle. I want least possible amount of drag and maximum amount of downforce. Also someone else mentioned.. why not get an aluminum spoiler.. for the same reason. Aluminum spoilers are flat and u just angle them for downforce. JDM carbon fiber spoilers work off the concept of an upside down airplane wing airfoil.

SmithSR: I live in the bay area (in california). My sponsors can get me hookups on things they have in stock over here, but for special orders directly out of japan, they basically have to pay the same thing i do to get them, and on top of that you have to wait a really long period of time, shipping is very costly as well. You imagine it costs like 100 bucks just to ship over a pair of headlights, a spoiler would cost an arm and a leg. I spend a lot of money on my car, but i shop smart. Putting my car together could have costed me twice as much. For instance I got my HKS SSQV off ebay brand new for 100 bucks. Can't beat that

theronin: whats wrong? got a small pen15? instead of flaming people on forums why dont you do something constructive instead.

Post by **SmithSR** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

Explod3: don't hate on other members, and don't insult them either. You're not backing up your claims with pics, so I doubt anybody on here takes you seriously. Posting pics of a show car and then saying "mine looks just like this, minus this that and the other...." is the wrong thing to do to try and gain credibility. You then imply that you know of shops that could get you the part from Japan, but would have to pay the same as you. So, you know the cost of the part you are looking for, and your friends at their shop cannot get a better wholesale deal, and therefore you cannot get a better deal on the specific piece you are looking for.

Body kits/pieces cost big $$. You know this. What is the point of your thread??

Post by **SmithSR** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

explod3 wrote:theronin: whats wrong? got a small pen15? instead of flaming people on forums why dont you do something constructive instead.

comments like this cause threads to be locked. good job.

Post by **explod3** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

I apologize for comming off like this, but i was really angered by theronin's posts. im not a frequent poster here and things like this discourage me from being a regular poster. im not asking you guys to believe me. my post was about how i could obtain a JDM spoiler. i was thinking more of like links as responses not flames or demmands for proof of whether or not i really own the car that I am claiming to. However, I do appreciate the other members comments and I thank you guys for that. I do try to do as much research on my own and try to find out information for myself. This is my last resort. I am getting professional pictures of my car taken soon, and I will be more than happy to share those with you guys when I have them. Except for ronin of course, who can obviously care less.

Post by **MainEvent212** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

dude...do you race professionally?

if so, then your "team or sponsors" should hook you up

if not? well then you're an idiot to think that the drag from a 200 buck aluminum spoiler is gonna be THAT MUCH worse than a 2-3k carbon fiber spoiler...

Post by **SmithSR** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

mainevent adds another point to the *credibility* issue I'm having with this guy.

Post by **explod3** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

I am an idiot. Thanks.

I dont race professionally but i do go to track days all over the place all the time and thinking about getting into scca.

a cheap aluminum spoiler is designed to catch the air, and change it from horizontal force to vertical force. jdm carbon fiber spoilers are made to cut through the air, but because of differences in airflow convert it to downward force. The difference in drag can be the difference in a second or more off your lap time which is significant when you're 100 mph or more.

what does credibility have to do AT ALL with where i can find carbon fiber spoilers? If anyone its YOU that is hating on other members.

Post by **SmithSR** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

explod3 wrote:what does credibility have to do AT ALL with where i can find carbon fiber spoilers? If anyone its YOU that is hating on other members.

You've made some rather outrageous claims. And failed to back them up when fellow members have asked for you to prove it. You've given NO details. You are generalizing too much to be taken seriously. You must read SS. You clearly have the time to continue posting, so why not share the details of your 350Whp car that breaks traction in 4th, that JUST HAS GOT TO HAVE a JDM spoiler. I don't take you seriously, and I doubt anybody else here does either.

Don't point the blame elsewhere; you questioned ronin's manhood, not me. I'm calling BS on what you're saying, and you're reacting like a child.

Post by **MainEvent212** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

how about u get ur suspension tuned better, and maybe some wider stickeys...maybe you're driving wrong...chirping 5th?...hmm, sounds a lil wrong to me, nothing a spoiler will fix...who can spin the tires at 120+mph?

also, a wing does NOT need to be above the roof line to add downforce...ever seen a sub 7 second drag racer? they definately have wings coming off of the trunk area going straight back...FLUSH w/ the trunk height

Post by **theronin** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

explod3 wrote:theronin: whats wrong? got a small pen15? instead of flaming people on forums why dont you do something constructive instead.

guys dont worry about him attacking me... its ok i dont mind, explode sorry that you feel you have been wronged on this forum but you have made some outrageous claims that you have not backed up... if my car was even 1/5th as hooked up as you claim it is then i would have all sorts of pics and data on her. hell all i got is a vlsd and z32 brakes and i got tons of pics of my baby! just show us the pics and the documentation, thats all we want. If you want to pay 3k+ for a wing then more power to you! until i see more proof this is what you get from me. shift_enjoy!:bsflag

Post by **MainEvent212** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

shift_your imaginary car...

i'm joinin in on this one:bsface:bsflag:bsface

Post by **explod3** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

even tho im running slicks they're only 215's and who said i was going 100 mph when i spin 5th. If i gas it too hard all i do is a burn out. I run narrow wheels to get the car sideways easily. I have normal rims/tires tooI have JIC magic coilovers.. my suspension setup is fine.

i've made some rather outrageous claims? whats outrageous about having a high powered car with a nice body kit. For californians.. Hiro from battleswing has seen my car, and so has david. Ask them on club4ag.com. I'm being sponsored by blacktrax in milpitas california, and automotive RnD, my paint shop is CalTech paint. . automotive RnD has direct hookups with jic magic and autoimaging. i was also at de anza autocross for anyone that was there. i didn't run in the autocross but i had my car there for people that saw it. You ask me any question about my car and I can tell you the details about it. If you want I can give you names of all the MEMBERS of 240sx.org that i've ever purchased parts from in the classified section and even give you their e-mails. I dont have a digital camera so i can't take pics of my car, otherwise i would have it as my avatar. Go talk to those people. Or go call up any of the shops and talk to them.

SmithSR: I dont even get why i'm defending myself. Does everyone who says anything about their car have to prove that they own it??

mainevent212: no ****. but my car is not a 7 second drag racer that travels in a straight line with bicycle wheels on the front. Roof level spoilers are still ideal for track racing. There's an episode of Option if anyone can remember which number it is, they do a test on different spoilers on the tsukuba track. Go and watch that. Mainevent you're just jumping to conclusions. Theres a lot of misconceptions about spoilers. Spoilers even help on FF cars, and sure.. you dont need a giant spoiler, but it does help.

Post by **explod3** » Mon May 19, 2003 7:01 pm

how about this. you keep this whole incident in the back of your mind, and i'll get ya some pics for ya in a few weeks. I'm not gonna laugh at you and say I told you so, but I would appreciate an apology. I think im done arguing for today. That was a lot more than I asked for.

Ja ne.. sayounara.

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