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I got it in last week and put in on friday. it sounds great and fit perfect. so if anyone is thinking about buying one then go for it. on a side note i had first ordered the Isis dual N1 and when it came in it didnt fit due to it being damaged durring shipping so i gave Enjuku Racing a call and they asked me to send them some pics of it and they confirmed it was damaged. Ken from Enuku called me and he told me they could send out another one right away but after having the Dual N1 under the car i was worried about clerence so i asked if i could get the Single gt instead and he said sure and they sent it out and credited my account the difference in price. they also sent UPS out to pick up the Dual N1 so again Enjuku has made this customer very happy. I cant say enough good things about the guys at Enjuku Racing, they are top notch and stand behind what they sell 100% and you can go wrong with buying from them.


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yeah there pretty much great.haven't had a problem with them also.

my three companies of choice to order fromEnjukuracing.com240sxmotoring.comfrsport.com

all three are great to work with and buy from

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i thought the #1 company to order from would be TDC as you have a TDC sticker on your car. LMAO tell chris to send me some stickers cause i bought my motor from his shop and you know i have a thing for stickers now.

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gnvarnadore wrote:i thought the #1 company to order from would be TDC as you have a TDC sticker on your car. LMAO tell chris to send me some stickers cause i bought my motor from his shop and you know i have a thing for stickers now.
haha i get what i can from Chris when i can or when its cheaper.otherwise i do most things on my own.

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TDC just needs to finish the website so they can offer more products and that way they can come down on some of the prices. even though the prices are competitive people are always going to go to companies with the most good reviews, TDC is still building their customer base with the online store so with time it will come and i wish Chris all the best with the online store. be sure to let me know when their next dyno day is so i can make it a point to get up there not only to dyno my car but to also check out the new shop.

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yeah unfortunately the website hasn't been as productive as we'd have wished.with online stores like that you kinda need a big advertisement basis to get things going and i guess we didn't get it out there enoughbut yeah ill keep you updated man

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I have much faith in Ken and the Enjuku staff.

But ISIS is total garbage. End.

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fourLUG_hero wrote:I have much faith in Ken and the Enjuku staff.

But ISIS is total garbage. End.
lol its an exhaust.piping and a muffler.hard to go wrong there

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E7-S14 wrote:
lol its an exhaust.piping and a muffler.hard to go wrong there
Here's a thought:

-Sound quality-Longevity-Ground clearance-Quality out of the box

For a pipe with a muffler on it

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s*** im getting a muffler shop to do all my exhaust work

no reason to spend money on a name brand exhaust unless you just have alot to burn

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four lug do you approve of brm?

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ok. fourLUG_hero

I hate to bring this into the mix. but sportmax wheels are considered "Cheap and Crap"so why are they on your car?i realize that you've recently picked up a "baller" set of wheels. and i admit they are nice. but why dog a company when you have "Less than baller" parts on your own car now?...

just something to think on

but what you say about -Sound quality-Longevity-Ground clearance-Quality out of the box

all are good things, but judging from gnvarnadore statement. the Isis piece pretty much met all those criteria because he loves it.

ill go ahead and stop myself here before i end up ranting this thread into the ground...

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skuurtin s13 wrote:four lug do you approve of brm?
Approve? It's up to you to spend YOUR money on YOUR decisions. Don't listen to some douchebag's opinion on an online forum (me).

BUT

BRM is overpriced, has terrible ground clearance even for lowering-spring-car standards, rusts easily, has sh*tty welds (from what I've seen) and uses magnaflow muffling. Same effect can be had with a custom made exhaust at a reputable muffler shop for around half the price. Don't fall for that garbage being spewed around this site about the exhaust.

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E7-S14 wrote:ok. fourLUG_hero

I hate to bring this into the mix. but sportmax wheels are considered "Cheap and Crap"so why are they on your car?i realize that you've recently picked up a "baller" set of wheels. and i admit they are nice. but why dog a company when you have "Less than baller" parts on your own car now?...

just something to think on

but what you say about -Sound quality-Longevity-Ground clearance-Quality out of the box

all are good things, but judging from gnvarnadore statement. the Isis piece pretty much met all those criteria because he loves it.

ill go ahead and stop myself here before i end up ranting this thread into the ground...
Never understood why people called my wheels cheap and crap when their only weak point was their heavy weight. Was it because I paid for a full set of them with the money I could have paid for one TE37?

I had them on the car, yes, and I hated them as well as how the car looked. But I destroyed and replaced a pair of those within two weeks. I liked the availability of them and the price. Did everybody jock my nuts? Sure. Did I understand why? No. Especially when there's a million similar setups out there of my old car.

Just note that the wheels were the only thing "cheap" I put on my car. I mean sh*t, I paid more for my lug nuts than I paid for one wheel.

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just making an argument^^as you can see im rocking sportmaxes on my car.they're cheap and easily replaced like you said, and if i might add. with a set of spacers. fit and look Great!

but yeah. just making an argument.just wondering why you hate isis.

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fourLUG_hero wrote:
Here's a thought:

-Sound quality-Longevity-Ground clearance-Quality out of the box

For a pipe with a muffler on it
Sound Quality: is awesome, its nice and deep not ricey sounding by no means.Longevity: Isis hasn't been around long enough to know how the exhaust will hold up.Ground Clearance: im still using the stock rubber hangers and the muffler hangs down no further than my front lip so even with that huge can its still good.Quality out of the box: the welds look great, bolted up with no issues and was nice and shiny stainless steel all hardware is included as well as gaskets.

if i had to rate it i would say i give it a 4 out of 5 stars and the only reason i cant give it 5 stars is because i have no idea how it will hold up to the abuse of my driving but i don't foresee any issues.


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fourLUG_hero wrote:BRM is overpriced, has terrible ground clearance even for lowering-spring-car standards, rusts easily, has sh*tty welds (from what I've seen) and uses magnaflow muffling. Same effect can be had with a custom made exhaust at a reputable muffler shop for around half the price. Don't fall for that garbage being spewed around this site about the exhaust.
I don't think it's overpriced. The same dual tip Magnaflow exhaust runs over $300 retail. Add a resonator and have a muffler shop cut and weld custom pipes and the price goes up really quick. I haven't been to a muffler shop in a long time, but don't they still crush bend their pipes?

Anyways, I'm one of the ones who forked over the cash for an Apexi N1 exhaust but I have money to burn so jk. I'm a sucker for numbers though. If I see good dynos from certain products, I'm usually sold. That's why I refuse to buy Isis or Megan exhaust and manifolds. Until I see proven dyno charts, I'd rather pay that extra $400 or $500.

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fourLUG_hero wrote:ISIS is total garbage. End.


Why because they didn't spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to R&D a pipe with a couple of bends, some hangers and a muffler?

Or is it because it's made in China?

News flash, about 90% of what you own is MADE in China and sold in the U.S.A.

I have an Apexi N1 3" 85mm cat back, when I bought it (2001) it cost me $430. Now with all the retards discovering what drifting is that same exhaust is now over $500. Are you telling me that somehow the quality of the muffler has improved? Doubtful

The Apexi N1, (at least for my car) is not even full stainless. Only the Canister is, the rest is mild steel that has been powder coated.

I'm assuming from your comment that you have had a personal experience with ISIS and are basing your judgement from that? Or did you hear some "internet buzz" and decided to pass the propaganda on to us here at NICO?

Not every company has the luxury of being a "name brand" business, they all started somehwere. Look at Megan, some are iffy about their quality as well but rest assured they are making millions regardless so they can't be all that bad and they just came up about 4 years ago or so.

Also please point me to these said dyno charts that seem to be your selling factor behind parts purchasing. The only time you see these "charts" is when a tuner magazine installs said parts on their project car and those parts are usually name brand because...

1. That company is already paying them $$$ to run ads in their magazine2. The magazine get's a hefty discount anyway which puts that part at a comparably equipped price to the non-household name brand.

The only way for these new companies to get noticed is for guys like us to buy the parts and spread the results here on forums and word of mouth.

End Rant.

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Whether the dyno charts are from magazines or from local shops, it's proof that I can see. I'm not saying Isis is bad, but I'm not saying it's good. It's just not proven. When you're making and selling performance products, I would think you'd like to back that up with some numbers. I've done business with Enjuku and have nothing but good things to say about them, but it'd help them make more sales if they can show that the Isis brand is improving performance. I don't go after name brands just because they're name brands. Hell, I'm rocking Rotas! As a customer, when I'm buying an exhaust, an exhaust manifold, turbo, cams or whatever hp performance part, I'd like to know that it's been proven to make hp before I drop some money on it. Customer reviews are great also because we find more info on the build and fitment of a product, but most people tend to be bias towards a product they just shelled out a few hundred dollars on.

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Now you're talking about more performance bang for your buck. I can understand your point though.

I am pretty sure that any aftermarket exhaust is better than stock though.

Another factor in the equation is the overall feel and appeasability of the product.

I personally like items that are pleasing to the eyes and ears.

If brand X part made 25hp more than brand Y but looked and sounded like crap I would still buy brand Y even it was more expensive.

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I've been talking about performance all along and not name brand. I understand what you mean by how the product feels. Aluminum bushings might help your car handle better, but are louder and more annoying for dd. Right now I'm looking at some cams. Tomei has a better reputation than BC, but are more expensive. I'm still going with Tomei's because of what their company can do and because of the reviews I get from forum board members. I take all of that into consideration before I make a purchase. For me, Isis is still too new of a name and I'm not going to buy any Isis product until I see more positive reviews and/or until I see some proven numbers.

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ddgsxr504 wrote:*Useless rant*
fourLUG_hero wrote:It's up to you to spend YOUR money on YOUR decisions. Don't listen to some douchebag's opinion on an online forum (me).
I don't give a f*ck what you've bought in the past. Fact of the matter is, ISIS parts (not just the exhaust) have gotten reviews of terrible quality out of the box, is known to be rebranded ebay sh*t, and is made to target the idiot 17 year old's that work for $7.15 an hour. If you can't afford quality parts, sure, go ahead and buy that Freddy intake manifold or that ebay turbo kit. It only makes me feel better about myself.

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fourLUG_hero wrote:


I don't give a f*ck what you've bought in the past. Fact of the matter is, ISIS parts (not just the exhaust) have gotten reviews of terrible quality out of the box, is known to be rebranded ebay sh*t, and is made to target the idiot 17 year old's that work for $7.15 an hour. If you can't afford quality parts, sure, go ahead and buy that Freddy intake manifold or that ebay turbo kit. It only makes me feel better about myself.
What about the FACT that Ken from Enjuku had Isis products on his personal car that he just sold not to long ago and im sure he can afford the big name brand parts. I also said that the out of the box quality of the exhaust is good, maybe others had issues with it but I didnt. I totally agree that they arent proven yet but how will they become proven if people dont buy their products and give honest reviews, also Isis has sponcored a drift car in hopes of becoming proven. The points you raise are extremely valid but i cant bring myself to pay alot of money for some bent pipes so i figure why not give it a try and with it being 3" exhaust it has to give some power gains over stock. I do plan on putting my car on the dyno but i dont have a stock dyno chart to compare it to unless i can find someone with a stock chuki to put on the dyno.

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fourLUG_hero wrote:
Here's a thought:

-Sound quality-Longevity-Ground clearance-Quality out of the box
I can care less about-sound quality - pretty much all 3" exhausts sound the same... you're not gonna get a raspy honda vtec or a rotary sound just from a change in an exhaust...-longevity/ quality out the box - nothing last forever... not even a style of an exhaust. hell if it rusts... get that s*** fixed then... exhausts aren't hard to fix unless your dumb

but what I do care about is ground clearance and fitment...

I don't know too much about the single gt exhaust (other than it looks like a bootleg apex'i n1)... but I have seen the fitment of Isis' other exhaust (that dual one that looks like a dart izumi exhaust) and i must say, I'm not impressed. Fitment is waay off... and in most cases, if you're running a huge kit, like lets say, BN blister... most likely the exhaust will be resting on the bumper itself...

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and ill ad when it comes to exhaust upgrades.whats this crap about numbers numbers numbers??

anything will gain over stock piping+res+cat.

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Lets see some pics when your done Greg.

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fourLUG_hero wrote:
Approve? It's up to you to spend YOUR money on YOUR decisions. Don't listen to some douchebag's opinion on an online forum (me).

BUT

BRM is overpriced, has terrible ground clearance even for lowering-spring-car standards, rusts easily, has sh*tty welds (from what I've seen) and uses magnaflow muffling. Same effect can be had with a custom made exhaust at a reputable muffler shop for around half the price. Don't fall for that garbage being spewed around this site about the exhaust.
finally someone has said it.

i totally agree.

i have isis straight pipes. fitment was ok, welds were good, clearance for a straight pipe was meh. my car has corrected that buy denting that piece in.

i no longer give a s***.

exhaust are hard to mess up. i will never pay 350+ for a pipe.

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i most def have to take some pics when i get a chance. i wish i had a digi cam with me when we put it on the car and had it on the lift.

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ZX88 wrote:
finally someone has said it.

i totally agree.

i have isis straight pipes. fitment was ok, welds were good, clearance for a straight pipe was meh. my car has corrected that buy denting that piece in.

i no longer give a s***.

exhaust are hard to mess up. i will never pay 350+ for a pipe.
lol... I think it was YOUR pics that made me not want to get the isis dart izumi-ish exhaust...

do you have any recent pics of the fitment now? I'm still wondering if I should go with that, or a BC Spec2

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the fitment really would all depend on your downpipe. mine is a little messed up so it might hang a little low i was able to raise it about have an inch via metal hose clamps to the hangers.


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