Is there a forum for pre 320 pickups, plg221 and plg222?

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I am wondering if there is a forum for the plg221 and plg222 pickups. Okay, cannot figure out how to post pictures.


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When you write or post a reply, to post a photo you use the full editor, there are a row of boxes above the reply box, you click on the "Img" box and you put the URL code in between the like I did below.
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You do need to open up a photo hosting account, once you have an account, you click on the photo you want, then you right click on the photo, you want to copy the URL code and paste it where I said above, I had to remove some of the parts of the IMG code to make it appear normal looking.
I would just use the 320 section to start a build thread for an early pickup.

hctub wrote:I am wondering if there is a forum for the plg221 and plg222 pickups. Okay, cannot figure out how to post pictures.

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hctub,

I put my PLG-222, disassembly so far, over in the Other Datsun Forum. Not many 221, 222, and 223 were imported to the USA, so given 50 years of attrition, not many left.

Import numbers to USA only - http://www.datsuns.com/modelguide.htm
Link to my 222 - topic602083.html
Pic here - https://www.flickr.com/photos/113742723 ... 6064915279

Hope to get back on this one this week, helping wife with art show prep. Engine is out and just need to pull the main bearing journals and send the crank and cam down to Willhoite in OKC.

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I owned a couple of plg221 and plg222 trucks years back and kind of kicked my own butt for getting rid of them but both were in pretty bad condition. I just ran across a fairly nice plg221 and picked it up. He threw in a plg222 with the deal but it's in bad condition but does have all the glass and the original drive train. It seems like while doing research years ago the year on the tag was the year sold???
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Damn, that's a nice survivor. Looks like it was babied all it's life. I'll probably wake up in the middle of the night dreamin' about that little truk.

Got some interior & engineroom pics?

Steve

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A Datsun "nut" as he put it owned it and fixed it up in 1995. It has a later model B210 engine/transmission in it and more highway friendly gears in the rear end. He said it will do 70 mph all day long. He had the 1961 plg222 in case he ever wanted to go back to the original drive train.

The 221 is really straight with just a little bit of rust in the drivers side rocker. It's a really solid little truck. He seemed to remember it having the earlier grill on it when he bought it but put the later 1960 grill on it because he liked it better. It's been sitting for about 7 years after the clutch slave cylinder went out.

This seems to be a really low/early production number truck but can't find anything out for sure. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Mega sexy little truck. Looks like originally light blue in colour. You have very good taste in vehicles; I see a 55 chevy wagon watching on.

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Truck is originally white I think. Mixed up pictures, the engine bay is the blue truck.

1955 Chevy is a sedan delivery that was my dad's.

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Sweet !! Rare Bowtie.

You've got some neat toys.

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Here is a pic of my 1959 LG-220:

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That is a nice looking considering how old it is, it looks to have an owee.
What front bumper is that, roadster?
Are them roadster hubcaps also?

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Original front bumper and hubcaps.

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I am just used to the later 320, that front bumper sorta looks like a roadster bumper, and the hubcaps I have trouble seeing, I guess I have never seen an early hubcap before.
Truck looks good. :dblthumb:

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Thanks! You will be able to see lots of high resolution pictures of it soon on bringatrailer.com. It is the first Datsun pickup sold by Wally Tucker Datsun in Bakersfield. The original C series 1 liter 37 hp 4 cylinder runs very well and that is the original paint. Check it out when it comes up in the next few days, this truck is a remarkable Datsun time capsule.

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Wow, thanks for the pics scifiguy30. Will definitely be watching BaT for the little truck and down load some pics for future references.

Andy

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forgot to ask. is this one of the original 10 or the second batch of 45 imported?

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GREAT little truck!

I'm still trying to learn about these trucks. I thought the LG-220 had the shorter cab, not extended like the 221 and 222?

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Hmmm...not sure what you mean by extended cab. This sure doesn't have one. This was the first Datsun truck sold by Wally Tucker Datsun which was one of the first Datsun dealerships so I'm thinking it was one of the ten. It was sold in July of 1959. It is now up on bringatrailer.com so you can check out the documentation and old 1984 newspaper article about it. If anyone wants pictures of a specific area of the truck I'll have it for another week and can take pics for you.

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Welcome aboard!

Probably the largest group of early Datsun truck experts in one place here.... Andy alone is an encyclopedia for sure!

I'll be keeping an eye on this old gal as well... She'd look great next to my 63 NL320 and 63 Bluebird.

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Nice looking truck. Would look good next to my L320 as well. Hmmm, if I just had the room! :(

Dale - AZ

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This is what I mean by "extended cab".

I have never seen a LG220 in person and can only go off of this factory model guide. If you look at the model guide for the 220 the cab ends almost immediately after the door. On the 221 there is 5-6 inches on the cab after the door ends. Yours definitely says LG220 on the vin tag but the cab doesn't end immediately after the door. Then you look at the old registrations and for the "body type model" it reads "PU221"!

Don't get me wrong, I don't think you are misrepresenting your truck in any way. I'm sad to see the bidding going so high and out of my range BUT happy at the same time since mine is so close to yours. If I could afford it, your truck would be sitting right next to mine at the end of the auction! In fact, whoever wins the truck ask them if they want the little brother to yours!!!

Now to see if I attached the pictures correctly!
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Ah yes, I see what you mean now. Extended cab has certainly gotten a lot bigger over the years hasn't it? I agree it looks more like a 221 than a 220. It was originally sold in July 1959. The production numbers are so small that I guess it wasn't surprising that the models weren't that clearly defined from one to the next. I just measured it, the cab extends 7.5" from the back of the door on this truck.

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I was told years ago that Datsun stamped the vin tags according to the year they were sold and not by the body style. I have a 221 and a 222 and they are both 1960 year model on the vin tag.

Yours being sold in 1959 must make it one of the earliest 221's sold! If you look at the bottom of the pages I sent it shows the years each model was sold. It doesn't show 221's being sold until the later part of 1959. You may have the first 221 sold in the states but unfortunately no way to prove it absolutely.

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I made this table based on specs from my truck brochures.
Thanks,
Steve
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Excellent reference material, thanks Steve,
Andy

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Here is a new and improved tabel with overall length (bumper to bumper) and cab width added.
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And some drawings:
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Beautiful.

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scifiguy30 wrote:Ah yes, I see what you mean now. Extended cab has certainly gotten a lot bigger over the years hasn't it? I agree it looks more like a 221 than a 220. It was originally sold in July 1959. The production numbers are so small that I guess it wasn't surprising that the models weren't that clearly defined from one to the next. I just measured it, the cab extends 7.5" from the back of the door on this truck.
Congrats on the sale. That's a nice price for that truck! If he needs more, send him my way!!!


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