Is anyone besides me planning to go

[telcoman]

to the movies?

http://www.capitalismalovestory.com/

Twenty years ago Michael made a movie on what was wrong at General Motors.

A few years ago Sicko came out pointing out problems with the healthcare system.

I can hardly wait to see this one.

A great interview with him today on the Howard Stern Show

Telcoman

[audtatious]

Nope

I simply home MM chokes to death on a donut

[szh]

to the movies?

http://www.capitalismalovestory.com/

Twenty years ago Michael made a movie on what was wrong at General Motors.

A few years ago Sicko came out pointing out problems with the healthcare system.

I can hardly wait to see this one.

A great interview with him today on the Howard Stern Show

Telcoman

Michael's "movies" are biased, presenting only his own interpretations of what he thinks are the issues at hand on those topics. He has been known to edit out information that don't fit his pre-determined world-view. The limited accuracy makes his work unwatchable as far as I am concerned.

And, yes, I did see two of his earlier "works" and tried not to throw my popcorn into the television out of sheer anger at his idiocy.

So, will I "go to the movies" for this one? Not likely at all ... I will stay away from this calamity as far as I can, since I don't believe in rubber-necking disasters.

Z

[APEXi240]

Zombieland will be far more intellectually stimulating.

[Cold_Zero]

^ I am with you! Never seen a MM movie, I thought about watching a movie of his that was pirated so that he wouldnt get any royalties, but I figure he would still get my time...

[adrianfromthecastle]

I'm going!

regardless of what people think, MM movies are entertaining and amusing.

[telcoman]

I'm going!

regardless of what people think, MM movies are entertaining and amusing.

Isn't it amazing how some are so biased in their thinking that they refuse to see an opposing viewpoint on an important issue.

Our elected representitives have many heathcare choices yet there is much opposition to every American having the same choices.

Millions have gotten screwed with the corporate changeover from defined benefit retirement plans to defined contribution plans (401k).

Corporations laying off millions, transferring jobs overseas while top executives receive huge bonuses leaves a shrinking middle class to buy their products. Lack of government regulation by a previous administration allowed the banking and financial system to almost collapse and cause a worldwide depression.

That tells me there is something wrong with our capitalist system and perhaps more government regulation is needed.

Telcoman

[audtatious]

I don't mind an opposing viewpoint that is rooted in fact. MM stretches the truth to the extreme and also makes it up as he goes. To me, it's a waste of time.

[szh]

I don't mind an opposing viewpoint that is rooted in fact.

And one that properly presents both sides of any issue, if it is purports to be a documentary. It is very well-known that MM deliberately ignores fact that are contrary to his view of how things are or should be.

MM stretches the truth to the extreme and also makes it up as he goes. To me, it's a waste of time.

Exactly right.

Z

[Cold_Zero]

I might go see Oliver Stone's new movie on Chavez. It sounds like pure propaganda.

[audtatious]

NO!!! IT IS TRUTH!!!!

[Bubba1]

Isn't it amazing how some are so biased in their thinking that they refuse to see an opposing viewpoint on an important issue.

Our elected representitives have many heathcare choices yet there is much opposition to every American having the same choices.

Millions have gotten screwed with the corporate changeover from defined benefit retirement plans to defined contribution plans (401k).

Corporations laying off millions, transferring jobs overseas while top executives receive huge bonuses leaves a shrinking middle class to buy their products. Lack of government regulation by a previous administration allowed the banking and financial system to almost collapse and cause a worldwide depression.

That tells me there is something wrong with our capitalist system and perhaps more government regulation is needed.

Telcoman

I enjoyed MM's interview on Stern too. What I found interesting is that Moore had made a $10,000 challenge to anyone that could find any factual errors in Farenheit 9/11 when it came out. He just extended the challenge to this movie. He said the facts have yet to be challenged. Of course he also shared the studio and insurers invested a lot of time in fact checking and would not have released the movie if they felt the content would be vulnerable to lawsuits.

I happen to enjoy Moore's movies. I don't necessarily agree with his opinions, but his movies are entertaining. In the end that's all it really is, entertainment.

[AZhitman]

^ Agreed.

And I actually agree with him on several points.

[bobotech]

I can't stand MM so I won't go see his new movie. The only one I ever liked was Roger and Me and that was before he became so polarizing.

[audtatious]

I enjoyed MM's interview on Stern too. What I found interesting is that Moore had made a $10,000 challenge to anyone that could find any factual errors in Farenheit 9/11 when it came out. He just extended the challenge to this movie. He said the facts have yet to be challenged. Of course he also shared the studio and insurers invested a lot of time in fact checking and would not have released the movie if they felt the content would be vulnerable to lawsuits.

You are absolutely correct. MM uses comments/words of others, without supporting context, in order to lead the viewer down his perception of the rabbit hole. That's how it was with F 9/11 at least.

Funny how MM is making a movie against capitalism while using the same system to make bux. Wonder if his investors expected to NOT make money off the movie or if MM would have still done it if he didn't have a ROI?

[telcoman]

You are absolutely correct. MM uses comments/words of others, without supporting context, in order to lead the viewer down his perception of the rabbit hole. That's how it was with F 9/11 at least.

Funny how MM is making a movie against capitalism while using the same system to make bux. Wonder if his investors expected to NOT make money off the movie or if MM would have still done it if he didn't have a ROI?

Matt

It's not that he is against capitalism.

He is against the misuse of capitalism.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21...58739

The majority of people losing their homes today is because of job loss and medical bills.

CNN is fact checking & so far has not found any false claims made in the movie.

Why not go see it & see if you can find any?

Telcoman

[audtatious]

Because I don't like him and I refuse my dime going into his pocket. Simple as that.

"The majority of people losing their homes today is because of job loss and medical bills"

Job loss, yes. Medical bills being a high percentage of why people are losing their homes? Highly doubtful.

[telcoman]

Because I don't like him and I refuse my dime going into his pocket. Simple as that.

"The majority of people losing their homes today is because of job loss and medical bills"

Job loss, yes. Medical bills being a high percentage of why people are losing their homes? Highly doubtful.

http://works.bepress.com/christopher_robertson/2/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/....html

http://www.indecisionforever.c...esday/

Modified by telcoman at 5:06 PM 9/28/2009
Modified by telcoman at 5:48 PM 9/28/2009

[audtatious]

Where's the data? Who did they speak with? What's the demographics? What questions were asked/how were they asked?

DATA FAIL

I've seen the number listed as low as 9% that were "real" medical related but even that one did not answer some of the questions below.

Now, let's take their 49% number. Of that number, how many were in a house they could not afford in the first place and would lose it anyway due to sub-prime loans? Of that number, how many are claiming it's medical due to being treated for depression? Of that number, how many could afford medical insurance and chose not to? Of that number, how many could have been on medicaid and chose not to? How many are illegals?

[telcoman]

Where's the data? Who did they speak with? What's the demographics? What questions were asked/how were they asked?

DATA FAIL

I've seen the number listed as low as 9% that were "real" medical related but even that one did not answer some of the questions below.

Now, let's take their 49% number. Of that number, how many were in a house they could not afford in the first place and would lose it anyway due to sub-prime loans? Of that number, how many are claiming it's medical due to being treated for depression? Of that number, how many could afford medical insurance and chose not to? Of that number, how many could have been on medicaid and chose not to? How many are illegals?

Perhaps Fox news has some answers?

Oh wait they are still spending too much time on Acorn.

A minor issue!

[audtatious]

Someone has to cover Acorn. Keep watching as I'm sure Beck will talk about Kevin Jennings and how he allowed a 13yo to have sex with an adult and was involved in teaching fisting to 12yo+ kids. Or maybe about Roman Polanski being nabbed after running from the law for 30 years due to pleading guilty for drugging a 13yo and having sex with her.

Good times....

[AZhitman]

Perhaps Fox news has some answers?

Nice dodge.

Why can't you just support your argument?

I think you must be racist, since Fox News is owned by a White person, and you always hack on them.

[srellim234]

If Fox doesn't have an answer they'll certainly fabricate one out of thin air.

[audtatious]

Guess they feel they need to follow the footsteps of the other cable news channels?

[srellim234]

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

[telcoman]

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

I'd say Michael Moore came first with Chris Matthews

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/#33078654

[audtatious]

Maybe Obama before God......or Allah?

[bigbadberry3]

Isn't it amazing how some are so biased in their thinking that they refuse to see an opposing viewpoint on an important issue.

Telcoman

. Seeing it.

[audtatious]

We should make MM films and Al Gore films mandatory for US citizens to watch as a means to make change that matters to some.

[bigbadberry3]

We should make MM films and Al Gore films mandatory for US citizens to watch as a means to make change that matters to some.

Why not listen to others opinions? Afraid they may give you something to ponder?