Injury deaths in the USA

[szh]

Sounds to me like your saying that unborn children aren't people...does that invalidate the arguement against abortion?

Huhn? No connection.

What I was saying is that if you breath air, you will die ... someday. 100% correlation.

So, air is the leading cause of death.

Similarly, breathing air "causes" cancer. 100% correlation there too.

Z

[smockers83]

bob why are you using a report from earlier then 2003?

right in the middle of your post it says firearms deaths are expected to pass car deaths by 2003?

can we get more recent info to back your point?

He likes to use data and numbers from a long time ago. However, this kind of data doesn't change too much to have a large effect, except for usually at the top and bottom.

Here's data from 2005

United States 10.0 1 1 District of Columbia 22.32 Louisiana 19.93 Alaska 17.44 Nevada 16.95 Mississippi 16.46 Arizona 15.77 New Mexico 15.28 Alabama 14.99 Arkansas 14.710 Tennessee 14.611 South Carolina 13.612 West Virginia 13.613 Montana 13.114 Kentucky 13.115 Oklahoma 13.016 Idaho 12.917 North Carolina 12.318 Colorado 12.019 Georgia 11.920 Maryland 11.921 Missouri 11.422 Wyoming 11.123 Virginia 10.824 Kansas 10.725 Texas 10.626 Florida 10.527 Michigan 10.428 Oregon 10.429 Pennsylvania 10.230 Indiana 10.231 Utah 10.132 South Dakota 10.033 Vermont 9.434 California 9.235 Washington 9.136 Ohio 9.037 Delaware 8.938 Maine 7.839 Illinois 7.740 North Dakota 7.741 Wisconsin 7.442 Minnesota 7.043 Nebraska 6.744 Iowa 6.445 New Jersey 5.346 New Hampshire 5.047 Connecticut 4.948 New York 4.949 Rhode Island 3.650 Hawaii 3.251 Massachusetts 3.2

With these kinds of data sets, you'll be hard pressed to find anything newer.

[skylndrftr]

Huhn? No connection.

Unborn babies don't typically breath...anyways that sounded way funnier in my head...movign on

I think its worth noting though that gun deaths have gone down in the last 2-3 years (data based) which is never a bad thing! I also am willing to bet that during that time gun laws became stricter. The correlation is probably weak, but I think its probably valid.

[AZhitman]

Actually, I'd attribute it to more enforcement and the increasing prevalence of cybercrime...

Throw in a slight "aging out" of the population overall, and there's your explanation for the slight drop.

[skylndrftr]

Actually, I'd attribute it to more enforcement and the increasing prevalence of cybercrime...

Throw in a slight "aging out" of the population overall, and there's your explanation for the slight drop.

1) enforcement is good and is definitely what I would role into what I meant by stricter...poorly stated on my part

2)I think we should seperate out the population at large from the population that commits gun crimes because I think they are very different. if the population comitting gun crimes is aging out, that would seem to me to imply that some of the cycle of violence in the iner cities is ending.

3)I doubt that peopel comitting gun crimes have the capability to transfer to cyber crime.

[AZhitman]

2) There's no question gang violence, as we came to understand it in the past 2 decades is decreasing slightly. As the population as a whole (on average) gets older, crime drops as a function of that.

3) You'd be surprised. While it's certainly not a large number, the guys who used to hustle have, in some instances, graduated to identity theft and credit card fraud... less risky than rollin' up in an Impala with a gat and bustin' caps.

[skylndrftr]

3) You'd be surprised. While it's certainly not a large number, the guys who used to hustle have, in some instances, graduated to identity theft and credit card fraud... less risky than rollin' up in an Impala with a gat and bustin' caps.

But where is the street cred?

[AZhitman]

LOL - No kidding!