INFINITY Audio Component Set for A/C

[ShadowAltima]

I am looking at an Infinity Audio Component Set. The AC has no tweeters now, where would the tweeters get put in if i get this set. Also are 6.5s ok for the 2 deck and 2 door speakers?

[ShadowAltima]

putting in a component set would probably void out the warranties but the stock speakers are tooooo weak

[Thannatos]

The a/c comes stock with tweeters in all configurations, they are located on your dash at the leftmost and rightmost sides of it, there are 2 pieces of plastic practically touching the windshield, and if you do change them make sure that you do not damage the light sensor on the passenger side one.

-Armando D.

[rjdmmfl1]

I am looking at an Infinity Audio Component Set. The AC has no tweeters now, where would the tweeters get put in if i get this set. Also are 6.5s ok for the 2 deck and 2 door speakers?

If you don't have Bose, then you have two 3.5" speakers in your dash, two 6.5" speakers in your doors, and 2 x 6 x9" speakers/subwoofer in your rear tray.

The speakers in the dash aren't tweeters, per se, but they are being used as tweeters. And when you put speakers in the dash, and they reflect off of the glass in the front, they give you a few extra db.

Although the rear has 6 x 9" speakers, you can go with 6.5" components in the rear if you want, you will just need an adapter plate and those are pretty easy to find.

For the record, I am replacing my 3.5" dash speakers with tweeters from my component setup, and I'm just getting a fabricated mounting plate so that they fit in the stock space!

[ShadowAltima]

Seeing how the car does not have tweeters because the speakers in the dash are 3.5 inch speakers. If i get a component set that has tweeters, where will they go, can I i put them in the speakers in the dash and will it cost a lot to install them in the part that is meant for 3.5 speakers... or should I just get 3 way speakers that have tweeters built in

[niztec]

you can always put the tweeters in the door....

[ShadowAltima]

will a hole need to be cut in the door for the tweeters?

[vballer22]

Seeing how the car does not have tweeters because the speakers in the dash are 3.5 inch speakers. If i get a component set that has tweeters, where will they go, can I i put them in the speakers in the dash and will it cost a lot to install them in the part that is meant for 3.5 speakers... or should I just get 3 way speakers that have tweeters built in

Well, The best way to go is just the three-way speakers with the tweeter and supertweeter built in. The kappa models are in my opinion far superior to almost anything out there, Ive got the kappas in the doors and the rear deck, and It sounds equal to a really great component set. And so you know, If youve looked at my write ups or not I've taken apart almost every part of the A/C and the front 3.5"'s are gonna be a very difficult install, consisting of removing the entire dashboard. Youd be better off with the three ways.

[vballer22]

will a hole need to be cut in the door for the tweeters?

Yes, although Ive been seriously tempted to mount them there because it appears to me the if they were mounted on the angled plastic in between the cupholder and the speaker grill they would be perfectly angled toward your ears, and if a true tweeter is pointed at your ear you gain db's and clarity.

[ShadowAltima]

Well, The best way to go is just the three-way speakers with the tweeter and supertweeter built in. The kappa models are in my opinion far superior to almost anything out there, Ive got the kappas in the doors and the rear deck, and It sounds equal to a really great component set. And so you know, If youve looked at my write ups or not I've taken apart almost every part of the A/C and the front 3.5"'s are gonna be a very difficult install, consisting of removing the entire dashboard. Youd be better off with the three ways.

damn i was hoping to get a component wiyh crossovers to get true sound clarity

[vballer22]

Sorry I guess I wasn't very clear. The component set with crossovers is ALWAYS the best way to go, theres just not a real good place to mount the tweeters and have it look flush and professional. However the three way kappas basically are an independant component system. they do have seperate crossovers AND the tweeter and supertweeter have their own crossover network and drivers, which makes them completely independant.

[rjdmmfl1]

Sorry I guess I wasn't very clear. The component set with crossovers is ALWAYS the best way to go, theres just not a real good place to mount the tweeters and have it look flush and professional. However the three way kappas basically are an independant component system. they do have seperate crossovers AND the tweeter and supertweeter have their own crossover network and drivers, which makes them completely independant.

The tweeters for my components are going in the stock 3.5" location .... all you need to do is fabricate a 4" mounting plate, attach the tweeter to the mounting plate, and add that to the stock location. Not very difficult to do at all.

Also, my installer stated that you get extra db's when the speaker reflects off of the windshield. That's why he suggested placing the tweeters in that location, and not down by the mid range 6.5" or in the door.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention, the guy that's doing my audio here in San Diego used to work on the cars on Pimp my ride....lol I was trippin when he showed me pictures of of him working on stuff with Mad Mike from the show.

So basically, anything he suggests, I listen to!

[vballer22]

The tweeters for my components are going in the stock 3.5" location .... all you need to do is fabricate a 4" mounting plate, attach the tweeter to the mounting plate, and add that to the stock location. Not very difficult to do at all.

Also, my installer stated that you get extra db's when the speaker reflects off of the windshield. That's why he suggested placing the tweeters in that location, and not down by the mid range 6.5" or in the door.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention, the guy that's doing my audio here in San Diego used to work on the cars on Pimp my ride....lol I was trippin when he showed me pictures of of him working on stuff with Mad Mike from the show.

So basically, anything he suggests, I listen to!

Haha nice! Yeah I'd listen too. I guess I thought that reflecting the sound from a tweeter is the same as pointing it right at your ear. the way you dont get those db's is if you have it on a two way driver not pointed at you.

[rjdmmfl1]

Haha nice! Yeah I'd listen too. I guess I thought that reflecting the sound from a tweeter is the same as pointing it right at your ear. the way you dont get those db's is if you have it on a two way driver not pointed at you.

no you're right... putting it in the door isn't a bad idea at all, is just that if you can take advantage of the car's acoustics, you try to do it...

we're gonna actually have to dial down the tweeters highs a bit on the crossover

[ShadowAltima]

Would I be able to purchase a mounting plate to put tweeters in the 3.5 location or would any installer have them or fabricate them easily? Also, will i be losing anything as far as sound quality by putting taking away the 3.5s and putting in tweeters in its place

[rjdmmfl1]

Would I be able to purchase a mounting plate to put tweeters in the 3.5 location or would any installer have them or fabricate them easily? Also, will i be losing anything as far as sound quality by putting taking away the 3.5s and putting in tweeters in its place

It depends on the quality of the tweeters you replace the 3.5" speakers with and whether or not they are a part of a component setup with a dedicated crossover!

Also, any install shop should be able to fabricate a mounting bracket! For example, you could take something like this...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ONKYO-3-8-...wItem

remove the crappy tweeter, place your there, bondo it in, use your speaker's connects, and there you go. Obviously, this can be done in a cleaner fashion than what I just described, but this gives you an idea!

[vballer22]

It depends on the quality of the tweeters you replace the 3.5" speakers with and whether or not they are a part of a component setup with a dedicated crossover!

Also, any install shop should be able to fabricate a mounting bracket! For example, you could take something like this...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ONKYO-3-8-...wItem

remove the crappy tweeter, place your there, bondo it in, use your speaker's connects, and there you go. Obviously, this can be done in a cleaner fashion than what I just described, but this gives you an idea!

I think doc and I are sayin the same thing. Honestly every setup so far thats been mentioned on this page sounds like a great idea to me. Just remember that the more sound is pointed towards your ears, the better.I learned this term when I marched drum corps, but many serious audio guys refer to the "wall of sound" as the ultimate experience. Basically it's obtained by all levels (low bass, mid bass, and highs) all forming one spectrum or wall, and it literally feels like theres a wall of sound that you can see. Its pretty hard to imagine, but once you hear it you really "see" the wall there. This is why it's best to point tweeters at your ears, so that when the low and mid bass are pumping, the highs arent lost or muddy in the combined sound. This is also the reason nearly every audio system has the highs in the front of the car, like how we have the 3.5"s in the dash, the mid bass or the 6.5"s in the doors, and the subs in the back. Am I explaining this well enough? It took me years to understand but now it's one of those "duh" things.

[rjdmmfl1]

I think doc and I are sayin the same thing. Honestly every setup so far thats been mentioned on this page sounds like a great idea to me. Just remember that the more sound is pointed towards your ears, the better.I learned this term when I marched drum corps, but many serious audio guys refer to the "wall of sound" as the ultimate experience. Basically it's obtained by all levels (low bass, mid bass, and highs) all forming one spectrum or wall, and it literally feels like theres a wall of sound that you can see. Its pretty hard to imagine, but once you hear it you really "see" the wall there. This is why it's best to point tweeters at your ears, so that when the low and mid bass are pumping, the highs arent lost or muddy in the combined sound. This is also the reason nearly every audio system has the highs in the front of the car, like how we have the 3.5"s in the dash, the mid bass or the 6.5"s in the doors, and the subs in the back. Am I explaining this well enough? It took me years to understand but now it's one of those "duh" things.

Baller, any chance you're gonna make it to Stillen next month..lol?? It's only a 5 hour drive!

In any case, I really want you to hear my system, and I wanna hear yours... I love listening to other "high quality" sound systems, not the ghetto systems with super bass, and the trunk rattling around like garbage cans... I F-in Hate that

[vballer22]

Hah! maybe five hours at 100 mph but it's a little more than that. At the moment Im pretty much busy 24/7. Im training as a police officer and until I'm done and graduated I honestly don't have a life. Maybe next year. Yeah it hurts to not be able to witness history man. That system of yours is gonna be the first serious all out install and I'm dyin to hear it. I know I've been tryin to find time to see blakes ride too but right now it's just not gonna happen. Next year!

[vballer22]

Oh and I wouldnt dare roll into that meet in my a/c. I've still got hubcaps *AHEM* wheel simulators!

[ShadowAltima]

Just bought an Infinity component set with 6.5 with 90 watt rms and 2 tweeters...

Also I bought a set of 3-way 6x9s.

That should a significant boost over the factory system

but how will clarity be?

[rjdmmfl1]

Just bought an Infinity component set with 6.5 with 90 watt rms and 2 tweeters...

Also I bought a set of 3-way 6x9s.

That should a significant boost over the factory system

but how will clarity be?

do you have BOSE? WHat type of aftermarket amp are you using for your highs???

If you are hooking these up to the Bose, then it won't be a particularly good setup. The Bose amp is designed with the Bose speakers in mind, and vice versa... change either one, and you start screwing with the sound!

If you are running these off of the factory stereo, with no amp, they may sound OK, but depending on what type of Infinity component you got (reference, Kapp, Kappa Perfect) they may be underpowered, and still won't sound good.

SO, let me know what setup you're running, and I'll give you an idea of what it'll sound like.

[adidas2go]

Hah! maybe five hours at 100 mph but it's a little more than that. At the moment Im pretty much busy 24/7. Im training as a police officer and until I'm done and graduated I honestly don't have a life. Maybe next year. Yeah it hurts to not be able to witness history man. That system of yours is gonna be the first serious all out install and I'm dyin to hear it. I know I've been tryin to find time to see blakes ride too but right now it's just not gonna happen. Next year!

Dude, don't be gay. Come down for real. My roommate makes that drive every weekend to go home, he lives in Mesa. You can find time dude The drive usually takes us 5 hours to LA from Mesa.

[ShadowAltima]

I have the non bose set up...I am running them off the factory stero... And no aftermarket amp the component set I got was Infinity Reference 6020cs 6-1/2" component speaker system For 6-1/2" and 6-3/4" openings

component speaker system includes 2 woofers, 2 tweeters, and 2 crossovers 6-1/2" Plus One+ Injection-Molded Polypropylene (IMPP) woofer with hi-roll rubber surround 1" edge-driven textile dome tweeter 2-way external crossover network (18 dB/octave, 3,500 Hz high- and low-pass) power range: 2-90 watts RMS (270 watts peak power) Technical Details Brand Name: Infinity Model: 6020CS speaker_type: Car speaker Unknown modifier speakers_maximum_output_power: 270 Watts speakers_response_bandwidth: 53 - 21000 Hz Unknown modifier Speaker Amplification Type: Passive Speaker Connectivity: Wired speakers_crossover_channel_quantity: 2-way Unknown modifier

THE 6x9 3-ways I got wereInfinity Reference 9623i 6"x9" 3-way car speakers3-way 6"x9" speakers (pair) Plus One+ injection-molded polypropylene (IMPP) woofer cone with hi-roll rubber surround 1" textile edge-driven dome tweeter and 1-3/16" textile dome midrange power range: 2-100 watts RMS (300 watts peak power) sensitivity: 94.7 dB

How Is That, Will I Be Satisfied

[rjdmmfl1]

I have the non bose set up...I am running them off the factory stero... the component set I got was Infinity Reference 6020cs 6-1/2" component speaker system For 6-1/2" and 6-3/4" openings

component speaker system includes 2 woofers, 2 tweeters, and 2 crossovers 6-1/2" Plus One+ Injection-Molded Polypropylene (IMPP) woofer with hi-roll rubber surround 1" edge-driven textile dome tweeter 2-way external crossover network (18 dB/octave, 3,500 Hz high- and low-pass) power range: 2-90 watts RMS (270 watts peak power) Technical Details Brand Name: Infinity Model: 6020CS speaker_type: Car speaker Unknown modifier speakers_maximum_output_power: 270 Watts speakers_response_bandwidth: 53 - 21000 Hz Unknown modifier Speaker Amplification Type: Passive Speaker Connectivity: Wired speakers_crossover_channel_quantity: 2-way Unknown modifier

THE 6x9 3-ways I got wereInfinity Reference 9623i 6"x9" 3-way car speakers3-way 6"x9" speakers (pair) Plus One+ injection-molded polypropylene (IMPP) woofer cone with hi-roll rubber surround 1" textile edge-driven dome tweeter and 1-3/16" textile dome midrange power range: 2-100 watts RMS (300 watts peak power) sensitivity: 94.7 dB

OK, both of these sets are 2 ohms , so that'll make them sound a bit louder. I would have suggested running a 4 channel amplifier to them for the best sound quality, but even running these off of the factory stereo will be an improvement over stock.

[adidas2go]

OK, both of these sets are 2 ohms , so that'll make them sound a bit louder. I would have suggested running a 4 channel amplifier to them for the best sound quality, but even running these off of the factory stereo will be an improvement over stock.

Robert, go pick up your phone bro

[ShadowAltima]

Might just get that amp then

[ShadowAltima]

But more louder was was not what I was really going for, I was looking more for quality and clarity with the loudness like the voices and the melodies and other instruments not being drowned out by the base to go with more loudness

[vballer22]

Dude, don't be gay. Come down for real. My roommate makes that drive every weekend to go home, he lives in Mesa. You can find time dude The drive usually takes us 5 hours to LA from Mesa.

Whoa! hey... Looks like Im gonna have to go buy a big pick up and raise it now. Can't have anyone thinkin that. haha jk. Totally havnt looked at this thread in a few days. Yeah I havnt made the drive in a while so it's about time I headed out there. The problem is that I cant really call out of work with what I do. Ive got firearms and tactical training that weekend according to the schedule they gave us a week ago. trust me, I just found out that the gt-r is gonna be there, and now I'm bummed even more. April 12, 2009! thats when I'm finally done.

[rjdmmfl1]

But more louder was was not what I was really going for, I was looking more for quality and clarity with the loudness like the voices and the melodies and other instruments not being drowned out by the base to go with more loudness

Sound quality will def be improved over stock. Sorry If I wasn't clear on that...

But remember, your factory deck is putting out, maybe 12-15 watts of power... these speakers would like ~ 100 watts RMS, so you are severly underpowering the speakers. The difference between this and an aftermarket amp would be night and day!

Right now, to hear the music clearly, you'll have to turn it up to higher volumes, at higher volumes, the speakers will start to distort. An amp would allow higher and cleaner sound at lower volumes (compared to non amplified stock deck)....Actually, just getting an aftermarket deck that's putting out about 22 watts RMS would greatly increase the sound of your system as well!