import tuner can go **** themselves hardcore

[AZhitman]

ALL those mags suck. Super Street, import Tuner, hell even SCC has started to SUCK!

They're all catering to the stickers and rice crowd anyway...

When are we gonna get a mag that caters to the 300hp sedan crowd? Huh? BASTARDS!!!!

[krazy skwerel]

Automobile magazine is a good time.

[rc240sx]

I think you guys are taking it a little too hard. I've owned my 89 fastback for a few years now and know that it does lack in the power department. That article was talking about speed and we all know the 240 is good but not all that fast in stock form. They never said these cars don't have potential but stock they aren't the superstars they were built to be.

[theronin]

who cares what they write... do you like your cars? do you care if they dont? ok then

[drifter sx]

man screw that... the ****s at Import Tuner are a bunch of impressionable retards! they're like vulturse, flyin around ready to crawl all over whatever is making an impact at the time. at first it was toyotas, they all wanted one, but didnt know what the hell to even do with them... then the honda thing happened and they all went off and bought hondas, and it just so happens that Nissan is kickin a$$ right now so there they go again. someone should tell them that Ford is next so they can get a head start, buy up fords, and spend the rest of their lives tryin to make them work so they can stay off the streets and out of my way... just my thoughts

[RobDET]

i mean when i read that it just didnt make sense. They have articles in this months issue that pertain to 240's and a while back they had almost an entire issue dedicated to them. They need stop and smell the naws.

They need to stop huffing the "naws" those Fagtards

[SeVa-S13]

I don't seem to recall Honda producing better looking/handling/faster cars in the early 90's...do you?Just last night my friend in his heavy beast of an S14 put down a late 90s Civic Si, both stock. Wait, so Nissan messed up? Riiiight...

[nismokid]

wow that was a crappy article. by the way when did the spec v gain 10 more hp and have 175hp. stupid magazine

[SeVa-S13]

They are rated 175hp at the fly, last I heard.....

[GEO]

How about we start a magazine called "240sx" and we all can be the editors. Someone has to know someone in the publishing industry.

[Toad[^_^]]

I gave them a piece of my mind...

In response to http://www.importtuner.com/features/0309it_411/ You have to forgive Nissan for its early 1990s transgressions: 4000-pound 300ZX convertibles, the 240SX and the like...

Wow. What can I say... That was an assinine thing to say. I somewhat understand considering that the US is the bastard red headed stepchild of the performance car industry (foreign and domestic), but I reall have to call you guys out for making this statement. There are alot of angry people out there who would probably like to here an apology. Just a suggestion...

http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....34040

http://www.nissaninfiniticlub....50334

As for me, I never really liked your magazine all to much. The articles are dry in terms of actual performance modifications and quite frankly, the cars that you feature look like rejects from the fast and the furious. In closing, try to be more careful what cars you bash if you don't want even more people to hate your magazine. And have a good day.

[Toad[^_^]]

I don't seem to recall Honda producing better looking/handling/faster cars in the early 90's...do you?Just last night my friend in his heavy beast of an S14 put down a late 90s Civic Si, both stock. Wait, so Nissan messed up? Riiiight...

In all actuality, the S13 was developed to combat the rise of the front wheel drive (then) 1.8 liter Honda Prelude. Soon after its release the 2.0 liter Si was put out on the market. Detecting imminent defeat, nissan developed and produced the Sr20DET and CA18DET and succesfully stole the cup from Honda (although America never saw any of this as we all seem to live in our own world). A 2.2 liter Honda Prelude Vtec vs a KA24DE powered 240 will win; no if ands or buts. Like wise the SR20DET powered Silvia will dominate the basic H22. The more powerful JDM H22a1, however, running at around 220Hp would give the SR20DET a run for it's money. So as you can see that battle goes back and fourth like it always has and always will. It's stupid to argue over which is better, Honda or Nissan. They're all cars. They all ave potential.

[DSSA]

Good god people. You guys actually think that the 300ZX convertible and the 240SX (as mentioned in the article) are world-class sports cars or something?

Nissan screwed the US market over, plain and simple.

"Well, we could give the U.S. the SR20 motor in the 240SX."

"Nah, @$*# 'em, we'll give them the underpowered truck motor"

Yeah, defend Nissan......

The U.S. Market actually sucked for Nissan cars back then. As much as I like the 240, yes, forgive Nissan for giving us the shaft in the power department.

End note: Yes, I hate the F&F-promoting sh!tbag magazines that are you there today as well, but I don't think they were far off the mark with that statement.

[SeVa-S13]

Sure a newer VTEC prelude will 0wn a 240 in a stright line, but the S13 was put out in 89, when Honda had those craptastic 2.0 Si Preludes, right? S13s looked better, were faster and far out-handled them. And don't bring Japland into this. Are we in Tokyo? No. Oh, and Nissan was trying to be a succesful car manufacturer and make a profit by selling cars here in the U.S., NOT cater to ricers a decade in the future. And although I would love for my car to be faster, it just wasn't looked on as cost-effective most likely by Nissan at the time to sell Silvias and 180SXs. They weren't in that much of demand at the time. Hence, the truck motor and all its glory went into the S13. Who woulda known that a decade later Turbo KAs would be able to embarass JDM Tyte SR20 swaps?

[BuudWeizErr]

They are getting a piece of my mind.

[BuudWeizErr]

Quote »To Whom it may Concern,

I read this quote on your website today in the article about the Nissan Sentra:"You have to forgive Nissan for its early 1990s transgressions: 4000-pound 300ZX convertibles, the 240SX and the like."

I'd like to thank you as a 240SX owner/enthusiast. I will never purchase another one of your magazines. I suppose that the Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R, produced in the Early 90's was another of Nissans "transgressions" as well, no?

Good Day.[/quote]Lets see if I get a response.

[dareo]

Oh man the 240sx, what a mechanical disaster! Nissan really screwed the pooch on that one. The fact that mine runs great after nearly a quarter million miles must mean that its poorly built. Who likes a 30 foot turning radius anyway? It makes super fun 3 point turns almost nonexistant. Who needs a perfectly balanced chassis and RWD in a really lightweight car? Its all junk. And its so slow!! i mean i beat stock 4cyls all day long but its still slow!! Doubling or trippling the hard-turn speedlimits is a sure sign that a car is junk and cant handle well, sign says 35mph curve, i do it at only 90? WTF build a good car nissan!I hope everyone that designed the 240 lost their jobs. Sarcasm overload, i better stop.

[BuudWeizErr]

Everybody email them. Let them know what their "target audience" thinks of them.

[Toad[^_^]]

Sure a newer VTEC prelude will 0wn a 240 in a stright line, but the S13 was put out in 89, when Honda had those craptastic 2.0 Si Preludes, right? S13s looked better, were faster and far out-handled them. And don't bring Japland into this. Are we in Tokyo? No. Oh, and Nissan was trying to be a succesful car manufacturer and make a profit by selling cars here in the U.S., NOT cater to ricers a decade in the future. And although I would love for my car to be faster, it just wasn't looked on as cost-effective most likely by Nissan at the time to sell Silvias and 180SXs. They weren't in that much of demand at the time. Hence, the truck motor and all its glory went into the S13. Who woulda known that a decade later Turbo KAs would be able to embarass JDM Tyte SR20 swaps?

[^_^?] There's no diputing that the S13 Silvia beats the 2.0SI Prelude in handling or speed. Even the more powerful JDM H22 can't compare in handling. I was merely speaking in terms of power. Hondas aren't built for autocross, thats why we have Mazda...

[SeVa-S13]

*looks around* Nope, we still don't have a Silvia here in the U.S.While I admit that Miatas are great handling cars, I'd sacrifice a little handling for the ability to not look like a chick by being in an S13 ( S13 240SX, NOT Silvia/180SX because we don't have them here!).

What's the Email address?And please, no one just swear and act like a bafoon at them because that'll only help their side. Use well thought out and factual arguments, please!

[GEO]

I say we publish a 240sx magazine.

[krazy skwerel]

The 2.0 prelude was around before the s13. Why are we just comparing to honda? It's not like they are Nissans only competition. :batman

[DSSA]

Sure a newer VTEC prelude will 0wn a 240 in a stright line, but the S13 was put out in 89, when Honda had those craptastic 2.0 Si Preludes, right? S13s looked better, were faster and far out-handled them. And don't bring Japland into this. Are we in Tokyo? No. Oh, and Nissan was trying to be a succesful car manufacturer and make a profit by selling cars here in the U.S., NOT cater to ricers a decade in the future. And although I would love for my car to be faster, it just wasn't looked on as cost-effective most likely by Nissan at the time to sell Silvias and 180SXs. They weren't in that much of demand at the time. Hence, the truck motor and all its glory went into the S13. Who woulda known that a decade later Turbo KAs would be able to embarass JDM Tyte SR20 swaps?

I'm not talking about comparing it to a newer VTEC.

The acceleration performance of the S13 was equal to an 86 GTI for example (1.8 8V motor). And a lot of "luxury" cars of the same vintage would out accelerate one (so I'm not sure what other stock 4 cylinders the other guy in this thread is racing).

The biggest downfall (publicly) for these cars is exactly that as well--lack of power. I remember reading countless tests of various cars with the 240 involved, and each one having the same complaints. "Great Package, horribly low on power".

This same year (1989), DSM introduced the Talon/Eclipse/Laser with a 2.0 turbo motor. No market for a turbo car with decent power? Might want to check sales figures.

My point is that Nissan brought over a great chassis, just failed to realize that yes, Americans do like a bit of power as well. The 240 is a great car for the other aspects mentioned, however, it's painfully slow from the factory--which every write-up/review on the car I've ever read attests to as well. But then again, what does anyone else know?

[SeVa-S13]

Not sure what the Prelude being out before the S13 has to do with anything but ok...and I just picked a manufacturer. Nissan and Honda are pretty much the big two when it comes to ricer mags so it seemed appropriate. :|

*Makes a wish for other people to read*Don't tell me that there was a market for little turbo rice-rockets, tell Nissan. A decade and half ago. Last I checked, I'm not in Nissan's marketing department, although that could be cool...

Again, I never said that 240SXs were the all-powerful, fastest things on earth, but they were far from a bad car, even though they don't have a bazillion HP...

[dareo]

I dont know if you can call an american S13 slow. I mean it doesnt feel slow. Its surely not fast but it can move. If its kept light and driven well it can move. mine starts to feel slow in 5th gear land. 1st and 2nd are pretty good though. The SOHC motor has a pretty large powerband, the cost being top end power. It makes a very drivable car. But nissan's assumption that Americans like big engines not tiny turbos is pretty far off. How many people want Evos and WRXs? They dont have lot of displacement. But who cares, we can take our really old cars and boost them, giving them new lives.

[fiznat]

Werent you guys just complaining like last week how pro-240sx articles in ricer mags like this would HURT us? I for one and happy that this mag is dissing the 240... It's not like I'm offended by it - I know they're wrong - but the average ricer doesnt, and I'm glad he'll stick with his Honda.

[R4v3n]

Dear Mr. Mulrony,

I'd like to thank you on your wonderful article in the latest Import Tuner Magazine entitled "Four One One: Nissan Sentra." Thanks to your article I will now save money each year. I will now never buy your magazine again. I always thought your magazine wasn't that great but thanks to this article, it has been made clear to me that your magazine is truely horrible. It is also clear that adding several stickers or attaching the name "JDM" to a car has become more important to you than actual performance mods. I'd like to see any of your lawnmower-powered project Civics all stickered up to impress the ignorant rice crowd beat a 240sx on the track. In closing, I hope you have taken the time to read this letter and I would just like to say your all a bunch of ****ing idiots.

Love,A good Silvia/240sx Fan

[R4v3n]

take that you rice bastards

[fiznat]

You people realise that they're just going to dismiss your letter as some BS rant from a kid if you cant maintain your composure enough to refrain from swearing, right? They're obviously not idiots, they make PLENTY of money with their magazine through smart advertising and good market planning: dissing the 240 - no matter how much it may hurt some people's feelings - really doesnt matter THAT much to them at all.... Who friggin cares, anyhow?

[dareo]

That cuts to the bone OnefastJ30! I like it. I wrote an email too, (i have too much time on my hands i know) but it didnt cut half as bad as that. Importtuner=Rice paper with chicks and stickers in it.