im so sick of the damn domestic vs import

[kevdog240]

alright one more thing. dont worry i found my caps key now (read my other post if you dont get it). my roommate drives a Z28 and really doesnt have knowledge of it at all but thinks he knows all about it. hes like "for 50 bucks i can get some bolt things that add 20hp" so i just throw in "well what are they and what do they do?" "umm i dont know but they help" then he starts talkin about i wouldnt know cause i drive an import and they are just so different. hello, i bet most of your parts are made outside the us! anyways the thing that got me was "hey man you know your car doesnt really have the hp that chevy says. thats crank hp not to the wheel and to the wheel is all that really matters. for example the 350z has '287hp' but it really only has something like 240." "oh man is that what import companies do? i know i have over 300hp now that i have my exhaust and induction" WHY IS IT ALWAYS IMPORTS VS DOMESTICS. i dont like domestics but im damn sick of it. one more thing. what the hell is the difference between his "induction pipe" and a freakin intake. he swears up and down they are different but its just a freakin pipe that comes out the intake manifold with a damn filter on it. sounds like an intake too. ahhhhhhhhhhhhh........ yea i have way to much time on my hands right now cause i dont want to study...........

[nlzmo400r]

yea the whole import vs domestic thing is kinda stupid, both have their ups and downs, v8 (mustang, camaro, firebird) owners sayhow much better their cars are than a 24o, but then again, even new, look at the price difference, get a 24o and for 3grand put on a nice to4 and be pusing 24o at the wheels, about the same as a mustang GT, and there u go, i duno, i dont take sides, but on my budget, and the niceness of most import cars as opposed to domestics (mustangs and such), i guess im sticking with imports

[kevdog240]

i like that fact that i dont know much about my car and can work on it too. he was saying "man if i want to change my plug wires i have to have the engine taken out and opened" or some ****. now is the time to learn before i get rich (haha oh yea) and own some really expensive cars + its just damn fun. seriously which are easier to do stuff to I4 or V8? one has to have a FEW more parts. but yea i give up.....

[[Zero-S]]

I don't even know what it is...maybe because I've been raised on nissan. I won't even look twice at a domestic car... Although I do admit, there are some pretty bad *** domestics...they're just all from the 60's and 70's. Personal fav. Pontiac GTO.

[MainEvent212]

that and my pathfinder has a nicer ride than a mustang GT

i like some domestics...but only F-bodies and corvettes

i dont like that other crap...mustangs, trucks, anythin else

the LS1 is a nice piece of machinery, and the Corvette is just an amazing machine overall

but its' really apples and oranges...comparing a 240sx and a camaro is not a fair comparison...

maybe a silvia and camaro...but that cant happen in the good ole u.s of a

[Megaseth]

I agree with you on that ZERO. the old V8 cars were beasts. These new cars are just for pricks who think they are tough s***. i would love t have a 68 charger or a 67 Nova SS with a blown 327. maybe a VG30 in it. all i know its that they both have their pluses, but neither is better than the other hands down.

[Holisticbeatz]

i like that fact that i dont know much about my car and can work on it too. he was saying "man if i want to change my plug wires i have to have the engine taken out and opened" or some ****. now is the time to learn before i get rich (haha oh yea) and own some really expensive cars + its just damn fun. seriously which are easier to do stuff to I4 or V8? one has to have a FEW more parts. but yea i give up.....

Yea, you can walk into a Pep Boys and buy a wide variety of bolt-on Edelbrock and Holley products for those domestic owners. I guess what it all comes down to, in my opinion, is that the whole Import vs. Domestics is like a comparision between apples and oranges. On one hand, the Japanese cars are nimblier, suspension-oriented, high-revving 4 banger. On the other hand, the domestic is just pure blood, guts, gas-guzzling, fire from the exhaust, rough-riding power machine.

[93RPS13]

i am sick of it too, i wished it all stopped it keeping people from being with each other sharing a simialer hobby

[Onizuka]

what are you guys talking about? IMPORTS SUCK!!!!!!

In all seriousness, imports are more cost effective. I was origionally only into muscle cars but It wasn't worth it for me because i didn't want to spend $10 a day for gas.

[Megaseth]

DOWN WITH IMPORTS!!!!!!!!!

[Eklectrick]

I just try to let it roll off when I get crap for driving an import. and I don't have a problem with domestics either. I would never buy one, but it's a matter of prefrences. a good buddy of mine drives an old buic regal (I forget what year) and we just do our own thing and respect what each other are trying to do with our cars. for those who give me guff, they just don't know. most of them think I'm stupid getting a small 4 cyl import so I can be as fast and cool as a mustang or corvette. :rolleyes

[Kaioshin1982]

I like both Imports AND Domestic, I used to drive Z28 I ROC and I just looovvee the torque and the power it has. BUT! however my 240 does give me a smoother ride and handles way better. I ROC was fun as hell tho so much power in it but handling sucked ***. I guess if you want more power for your money you have to go with domestic, but if you wanna build up your car and be proud that you can beat and kill V8s with your hard work done to your car, you need to go with import... just my 2cent I dont even know if i made any sense or not haha

[Cyberkreig]

On the other hand, the domestic is just pure blood, guts, gas-guzzling, fire from the exhaust, rough-riding power machine.

Domestics used to be built that way. Short-lived power machines.. But those beasts died out. They lost to import companies b/c people want a car that will last them. durability and economy is the way the market is, and has been going.. when it comes to that, the domestic manufacturers have 2 decades of to make up for. There are nice, fast, well made domestic cars, but they are still above the price-range of comperable imports. IMO

[hashiriya13]

I just dont get involved because they both have there place. I just sold my 70 camaro:( . it was simple to work on and pleanty of room for whatever. now on the other hand about the spark plugs on the new camaro's its a nightmare. I choose not to work on a new camaro. but as far as the guys with the big motors if the insist on a battle I have something for them.

[Megaseth]

the new camaros use a direct fire system. this guy was talking about taking the coil packs out of his Z28 cause they got wet, and one guy said just take off the distributor cap so they can dry. and the guy told him it didnt hvae one cause it had coil packs. and they are a pain in the a** to remove.

[Onizuka]

I just dont get involved because they both have there place. I just sold my 70 camaro:( . it was simple to work on and pleanty of room for whatever. now on the other hand about the spark plugs on the new camaro's its a nightmare. I choose not to work on a new camaro. but as far as the guys with the big motors if the insist on a battle I have something for them.

your just braggin about you RB again.

[BB Turbo]

I like both imports and domestics, being that i used to like lowriders, then domestics, now imports. I hate this whole arguement, and it really gets on my nerves at school when these juniors and seniors think they know what they are talking about, just cuz they are in auto tech, and havent even been inside of a car prior to that class. Of course, when this litle arguemnt breaks out, they really dont have any knowledge or clue of what they are talking about and just walk away or something.

I like The Judge, and 65 Vette witht the L88. At the end of this summer, my dad is buying an 89 Mustang GT 5.0 for just under 2k. Hes excited cuz he just loves domestics, I am excited, cuz i get to have a little bit of both worlds.

[hashiriya13]

your just braggin about you RB again.

No im not. well maybe a little. but really i have a passion for both worlds. Any car can be made fast just some take more money. I love the camaro 67-81 anyway. but my dream would be a 70 GTO or a early 70's cuda.

[SmithSR]

i see only a few people posted examples of what they'd consider to be an OK domestic. and most are muscle cars or rare hot rods... who can think of a decent modern domestic that is worth a crap? and i mean something comparable to a 240 both in price(when it was new), quality, and performance.

[singlecamhonduhkilla]

I REALLY LIKE MY STEP-BROTHERS 99 FIREBIRD RS.. (V6)LOLITS BEAUTIFUL TO LOOK AT AND PRETTY FAST 200HP.. BUT OF COURSE HE HAD TO GET IT IN AUTOMATIC AND HE STILL HASNT MESSED WIT IT BESIDES GETTING AN EXTREMELY LOUD SYSTEM AND DOING A LIL RICE TO IT SUCH AS PAINT ODDS AND ENDS OF THE INTERIOR TO MATCH THE CAR..LOL..(I REMEMBER DOING THAT TO MY SENTRA BACK IN 99)U WANT A DOMESTIC THATS WORTH A FUKK!!THE NEW CADILLAC.. THE V10 1000HP PIMP MOBILE.. I FORGOT WUT ITS CALLED.. THATS A FUKKN BADAZZ CAR.. JOE:ylsuper

[offtheline]

I guess if you want more power for your money you have to go with domestic, but if you wanna build up your car and be proud that you can beat and kill V8s with your hard work done to your car, you need to go with import

You can beat V8s in your 240? Or were you just generalizing? If so, nice work!

[Holisticbeatz]

I might be a little off topic with this one..

Let's say you have a totally bada$$ SR20DET or RB25DET in your ride. And you're crusing down the street and pull up next to a riced out Honda. Are you going to hit that little car up for a race or are you just gunna continue talking on your cell phone?

Now let's say you have a raelly bada$$ big block GM/FORD motor in your domestic ride. And you're crusing down the street and pull up next to a [insert the name of an import here]. Are you going to hit that [import] up for a race or are you gunna continue on your jolly way?

I suppose it all comes down to "whatever you got, I have too, but better, faster, stronger and bigger." Example, Ford Mustang vs. Honda Civic. I have two more cylinders than you. My V6 displaces a few more liters than your 4-banger.

[PabloHoney]

I might be a little off topic with this one..

Let's say you have a totally bada$$ SR20DET or RB25DET in your ride. And you're crusing down the street and pull up next to a riced out Honda. Are you going to hit that little car up for a race or are you just gunna continue talking on your cell phone?

Now let's say you have a raelly bada$$ big block GM/FORD motor in your domestic ride. And you're crusing down the street and pull up next to a [insert the name of an import here]. Are you going to hit that [import] up for a race or are you gunna continue on your jolly way?

I suppose it all comes down to "whatever you got, I have too, but better, faster, stronger and bigger." Example, Ford Mustang vs. Honda Civic. I have two more cylinders than you. My V6 displaces a few more liters than your 4-banger.

Personally, I would just keep driving. BTW, quite a few stock Civics can beat a V6 Auto Mustang, sad as that may seem. A GT though, no way.

[creophus]

I think anyone can make a nice car. I definitely like the new SRT-4. I think that's gonna be one of the nicest sport compacts out right now. I understand that Dodge is now a german company, but many will call that a domestic car. I think the problem is, most of the japanese manufacturers pulled all of their really nice sports cars. All we were left with in the states were Camaros and mustangs. Look at the list of imports that got cancelled:Toyota Supra (*drooling*)Mazada RX7Nissan 300ZXNissan 240SXand some others that I'm forgetting. Luckily the imports are returning and even though they aren't turbo'd any more, they still are awesome.

Edit: I suppose we really shouldn't even argue the import vs domestic from a manufacturer stand point. Let's look at it this way...Other countries get better cars regardless of who makes them. Cars that come to America get watered down or cancelled all together. Compare what Nissan puts out in America vs what they put out in Japan! The difference is night and day! (Fairlady Z, Silvia, Skyline )

Even Ford makes the Escort Cosworth for Europe. And that car is slick. Here we're stuck with a ZX2 escort. What's up with that?

[krazy skwerel]

you will all fear the beast that is the 1974 ford mustang ghia with its 2.8 v6 and a massive 105hp can you feel the pain im bringin to the streets?! well perhaps not pain but it is still a great car not very powerful but a ton of fun and it was my first car. oh i cant wait to restore it. i tell you a domestic that is very formitable although it is prob. all mazda and thats the focus. and the new dodge neon w/the turbo i think once again im willing to bet its 90% or more mitsubishi. but there you go they are comparable to the 240sx when it first came out in price.

[MainEvent212]

my dad's volvo puts out a whopping 85 whp

hehe, it was horribly mistuned by some shop, we should sue them for god's sake...

but back on topic...the old 65 mustangs were beasts...even with the little V8...

but the real badass buddy is the Shelby Cobra 427

[SmithSR]

So, the new Neon is the only modern domestic that's worthy?

[Cyberkreig]

have you read the reviews on the new neons?

[SmithSR]

yes, and they all say the same thing. lotsa power, too little grip, FF, no weight transfer, ugly. my favorite: "Dodge is clearly setting it's sights on the young car enthusiast..."

"...by doing all the modifications necessary to make this car a real contender right out of the box"

The car is an eyesore and STILL A NEON!!

If this car is what young enthusiasts want, I'm glad to be getting older.

[[Zero-S]]

Haha I would have gotten an SRT4 if they would have changed the neon design a little bit more...That is one UGLY front grill. The interior however...is kinda nice...(I'm partial to silver)