im seriously starting to hate this car

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well after changing the spark plugs, wires, the car still dies when iput it in neutral after the car has warmed up. i have a new maf, a auto ecu in my manual car. so why does my car still misfire sometimes and dies when i i stop or put the car in neutral. here was the original problem zerothread?id=468931


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My guess is there's a leaking/cracked vacuum hose at the rear of your intake plenum, probly near the EGR valve.

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brandonDavid
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how's your timing?

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SeVa-S13 wrote:My guess is there's a leaking/cracked vacuum hose at the rear of your intake plenum, probly near the EGR valve.
or your egr valve is bad

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wrightme43
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I rolled my diag dice for you http://creativedice.com/productinfo.html they say you need a dist. cap.

OR you could maybe give more info, make a plan and work thru it. Do you know how to test the EGR? Do you have a vaccum pump?

Or you could take it to a shop and pay for experince.

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wrightme43 wrote:I rolled my diag dice for you http://creativedice.com/productinfo.html they say you need a dist. cap.

OR you could maybe give more info, make a plan and work thru it. Do you know how to test the EGR? Do you have a vaccum pump?

Or you could take it to a shop and pay for experince.
From what you described so far I would also say dist cap. Then again, it could be a million other things.

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wrightme43 wrote:I rolled my diag dice for you http://creativedice.com/productinfo.html they say you need a dist. cap.

OR you could maybe give more info, make a plan and work thru it. Do you know how to test the EGR? Do you have a vaccum pump?

Or you could take it to a shop and pay for experince.
Im with this guy.

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The number of things it could be are in the 20's. We need more info to help.

I think it might be the TPS.

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okay ive calmed down a lil, so it doesn't do this all the time though which is weird. like sometimes i go in neutral in city driving it dies, but not freeway driving. sometimes it doesn't do it all all that's what kinda urks me.

i really dont need the egr, or any opf the smog crap right?

mechanic said my idle air controller could be clogged too. couldnt i seafoam it?

tomorrow im going to get a distributor cap/rotor take all of the smog stuff out sea foam it and see what happends.

Modified by goj_cloud at 9:49 PM 1/5/2010
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I did know you could run an auto ecu with a manual car....

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If im right, putting the Auto ECU in the Manual removes the rev limiter and does not harm anything. Correct me if im wrong though.

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oh yea this is what happend which caused all of this in the first place zerothread?id=468931

thanks for being patient with me, ill just be glad when theres no more problems

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i just got my distributor rotor have to wait till autozone gets the cap, which will be later today i will post an update

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If it is the ICV then I'm pretty sure you can spray it with TB cleaner. All it is a little device with a flap that lets air through so if the flap can't open the air can't get through making your car stutter or stall. Just make sure it's completely dry. Even if this isn't the problem it's still a good idea to clean it.

On my car I couldn't even get the flap to open when pushing it with a screwdriver and by the time I was done cleaning it, the flap could easily open from the tb spray pressure alone.good Luck

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update: i sea foamed my car and i noticed smoke comming from the hood. so im guessing i should change all my vacuum lines?

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wrightme43
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Did you clicky on the linky man??

The diag dice thing is joke. People come into work all the time saying things like what you are saying, and wanting to know whats wrong. I offer them the diag dice OR we can work thru a plan, find out whats wrong and fix what the root problem is. The shotgun method of car repair is wrong. Throwing parts at a car does sometimes fix it, but most of the time it doesnt.

Smoke from under the hood and seafoam does not equal causation only coincedence. It does not neccessarly mean you need all new vacum hoses.

Slow up. Form a intelligent plan and work thru it.

Dont bounce around from this to that to this. You are a human being we have the ability to reason and think problems thru.

Now if you want to find out if you have vacum leaks. Get a can of brake clean. Start car. spray the hoses one at a time where they connect and down the lines and see if the idle dies out. If so inspect that hose. Do it again. That would a hose that needs attention.

EGR is a good idea. It works well. There is no reason not to have it. Cats are a good idea. They work well. Again no reason not have them.

You could have many different problems. How much money have you spent so far??? If over 150$ you could easily of paid for diag by a competent mechanic. Let them know that you only want diag and your going to fix it. Its just over your head. Expect to pay the man for his time and knowledge. It didnt come cheap or easy. Find a guy with a sun machine if you can. They rock with someone that knows how to use it.

Just my 2cents. Steve

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how od i take out the icv to clean it, also were is it located?

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goj_cloud wrote:how od i take out the icv to clean it, also were is it located?
No need to remove it. Just remove a hose attached to the intake hose and spray cleaner there.

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if i replace the vaccum lines and spray the icv that should fix it right? this car is kinda getting on my nerves because sometimes it dies when im comming down from rpms and the car wont catch the rpms, sometimes it doesnt.

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Seems like you didnt listen to wrightme43...

Because of this, my suggestion is to sell your 240 and stop coming on nicoclub.Good luck!

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yeah no doubt in any of our minds that WILL fix your problem. Come on don't ask us go out and try it.Your problem could be a number of things.I don't know any info about the auto ecu in a manual car, but that just seems like a bad idea anyway

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Ok man, I know I am wasting my time but here goes. THIS IS ONLY A GUESS!!!!!!!

Its a guess!!!!

quite often the problems you describe are caused by a defective cam or crankshaft position sensor on different vehicles. Do I know that it is the case on your car???? NO!!!!

It could be many things, but I get the feeling you are just going to throw parts at it untill it works. So hey try that one. If I am right I am a genius, and if I am wrong I am some ***hole from the internet.

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wrightme43
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wrightme43 wrote:Ok man, I know I am wasting my time but here goes. THIS IS ONLY A GUESS!!!!!!!

Its a guess!!!!

quite often the problems you describe are caused by a defective cam or crankshaft position sensor on different vehicles. Do I know that it is the case on your car???? NO!!!!

It could be many things, but I get the feeling you are just going to throw parts at it untill it works. So hey try that one. If I am right I am a genius, and if I am wrong I am some ***hole from the internet.
Never mind man I just looked at your other thread. WTF man. Fix the freaking plug on your MAF. Seriously, If your next post doesnt have a picture of a proper correctly wired MAF plug installed on your car I hope no one answers any questions for you again.

Dude seriously, are your really riding around like that?????? And at the same time wondering why it dies?????? Did you get a QUALITY MAF????

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wrightme43
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You got a used MAF of unknown quality. and a used ECM of unknown quality, and if you havent fixed that plug you are in all sorts of trouble because you dont know if you fried something else to boot.

goj_cloud
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that was fixed a long time ago

goj_cloud
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i fixed the problem i sprayed intake cleaner in the idle air control valve. my car doesnt die anymore

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whoa, way cool.


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OP, is this your first 240?


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