im done with tein coilovers, time for new ones???

[poshatch]

hey everybody

so i got some tein HE type winding masters on my car and they dont get low enough for me without preloading the hell out of the spring which i dont want to do

so ive decided to sell them and get new ones

these are the ones im leaning towards in order:

power by maxkts ultra lowstance gr +k sport slide kontrolmegan track series

i know this has been covered before im sure, but ive looked at all of these online and i dont trust manufacuring reviews

id like first hand reviews of these coilovers

i would like:

low without a ton of preload but good preload adjustmentsstiffness (probably going to go 9k/7k or 10k/8k)ok for daily use and for drift/autox

thanks yall

[bersh240]

how much you want for the teins?

[keith0486]

go stance GR+

[Gabes13]

Psm, Stance and KTS ultra lows all have about the same drop. Psm and kts both offer shorter springs for more lowness. Idk about stance. I don't care what everyone says,Megan and Ksport suck.Megans don't go that low out of the box anyways.But they do have shorter springs as well.

EDIT:

If I'm not mistaken, "Drift" and "Autox" have very contradicting suspension setups.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Stance also sells shorter springs.

Go with PBM, Stance or KTS.

[zenki-S13]

i vote PBM

[Black on Gold]

I vote SEARCH

[mRodiek]

I vote SEARCH

lol

PBM or Stance. Im debating between the 2 myself, I may be getting a deal on the Stance GR+ so Ill probably end up with those coils.

[poshatch]

lol

PBM or Stance. Im debating between the 2 myself, I may be getting a deal on the Stance GR+ so Ill probably end up with those coils.

yea ive been looking on the pbm web site and i hear great things about the whole company, they seem like they would go low enough, got good array of spring combonations and they get pretty stiff i believe, im leaning towards them because it says online that they have camber plates on the front and rear, and none of the others seem to offer that

my friend has kts and they seem good besides the fact that they dont go that low thats why i opted for the ultra lows butttt, im not sure if that chages the suspension geometry because the coil is smaller

and xxxxxx has great reviews about the lowness and adjustability of the stance gr + so im not exactly sure what im gonna do

[nismotuner1]

i vote keep the tein. i have the super drifts and there great!! are u sure ur adjusting them right? if u are adding spring pre load u are going to raise ur ride height! dont they have seperate height and preload adjustments???? the superdirfts do. I thought all teins did except for the cheap superstreet dampers.

[poshatch]

i vote keep the tein. i have the super drifts and there great!! are u sure ur adjusting them right? if u are adding spring pre load u are going to raise ur ride height! dont they have seperate height and preload adjustments???? the superdirfts do. I thought all teins did except for the cheap superstreet dampers.

haha your serious? i was always under the impression that it lowered the car cause it put more presure on the spring and then adding more when putting it on the ground will lower it more

buttttttttttt

ill take more preload off and see how that goes, i dont want to droop the spring because i need preload to make my suspension respond the way i like. it does have full length adjustment just like the super drifts, but the rear perch is all the way up and wont lower anymore, and the fronts can actually be slammed way more than is needed which is sort of odd

i will feel pretty stupid if it lowers it more, the thing is

the car is already slammed and it dosnt look that low though, its pretty weird

i drove my friends car tonight and he has kts's and they are pretty nice so i was thinking on getting something new but we will have to see

thanks for the info

[adrianfromthecastle]

Ever consider DMAX coilovers? They'll run you about the same price as PBMs... and they're a great mix for drifting and daily-ing.

http://d-maxusa.blogspot.com/2....html

[poshatch]

i didnt hear much about them before ill deff check them out thanks!

[ViolentRunning13]

Dmax are very daily driver friendly. Super comfy.

[sr20power]

I also have Tein HE's and will be switching to PBM in a couple of months. As the OP said the rears don't seem to go down as low as the fronts. I have my HE's as low as they will go and I would like to go about another inch lower.

From my understanding when you pre-load the spring you do NOT change the height of the car. You are only adjusting the load on the springs.

[Gabes13]

From my understanding when you pre-load the spring you do NOT change the height of the car. You are only adjusting the load on the springs.

Correct.But pre load allows more threads when they're none left.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Correct.But pre load allows more threads when they're none left.

Preload also makes the car ride like s***.

[poshatch]

Preload also makes the car ride like s***.

yeah well i was just doing what i heard worked

when i did a little more research i figured out why nismotuner1 said that it actually made the ride heigh higher by a small amount

lets say you run zero preload, its roughly 315 kg over each coilover, and fronts have 9kg/mm so thats a compression of 35mm and rear is 7kg/mm so thats 45mm compression

preloading it 35mm in the front and 45mm in the back, when the car is jacked down, it wont compress because the tension on the spring is already set at the car weight and will take an additional force to compress it more

thats what i understand, the car ride height is only lowered when the spring is compressing but when its preloaded the spring wont compress but their is actually more threads below the bottom spring purch making the ride height higher

if that makes sense, i remember how low my car was when i drooped it and it was crap, so i preloaded it and just kept preloading it for less movement but im going to undo all the preload and drift it and see how it responds and see if i can dial it in to something i like, if im getting to much travel ill preload it a bit

still.....

i do like the PBM

[bllabong89]

ive seen two local s14's with Powered by Max's on them and they are low and I am told they ride pretty decent but I dont own them. When I get some money, Im either getting the PBM's or Tein super drifts

[Gabes13]

Most coilovers have linear springs.So it would take the same amount of pressure to compress the spring.Pe-loaded or not. Pre-loading just complicates other things like corner weight, valvingand the obvious, bottoming out.

[poshatch]

Most coilovers have linear springs.So it would take the same amount of pressure to compress the spring.Pe-loaded or not. Pre-loading just complicates other things like corner weight, valvingand the obvious, bottoming out.

well i know that most coilovers come linear, but now i am confused

so what your saying is if you preload the coil to 200kg resistance and you put on 50kg its going to move the coil?

i was under the impression that it would take a minimum of 201kgs to compress the spring further

wrong?

[Gabes13]

I'm just saying an 8kg spring will be an 8kg spring through out compression/rebound.

[poshatch]

haha well i know that

the spring rate dosnt change based upon preload

its still the same spring lol

i do preload to keep my suspension predictible and have less travel and less peg leg and what not

i just think im running way to much right now

my coilovers got really really low when they were drooped and id like them to perform good at a lower ride height and if i cant get it dialed in in the next few days then im selling them and getting pbm

seem the most legit to me from all the ones ive looked at

plus i think i will enjoy the more aggressive spring rate, stiffer dampening, easier adjustability and rear camber plate

[Gabes13]

lolzMy bad. How 'bout a shorter spring?Tein has those too you know.

[sr20power]

OP..kind of confused on what you are trying to do here? I have Tein HE's dropped as far as they go. You will NOT get better performance with the car being soo slow. And you want to go lower?

Unless the is a big difference between S13 and S14, I'm confused.

But good luck with w/e yo do...

[im_looking_for_a_240sx]

pbm /threadlol

[poshatch]

OP..kind of confused on what you are trying to do here? I have Tein HE's dropped as far as they go. You will NOT get better performance with the car being soo slow. And you want to go lower?

Unless the is a big difference between S13 and S14, I'm confused.

But good luck with w/e yo do...

i am pretty low right now, and i know their is a point in which being to low is less advantagous such as bottomin out and dd problems and what not

but my car just dosnt seem low enough and its pretty maxed out

what i have gathered from this post is that i need to go back and start from scratch on my tein HE's and see if i can get something nice out of them

and if i cant get what i want out of them from going back and resetting everything then i know which coilover i would go for

PBM

getting my car aligned tommorrow

lifetime alignment from firestone, complete crap...i was talking to them and they are like, is your car lowered and im like yes. and he says do you want specific alignment specs and im like yes ill ive them to you tommorrow and he is like well since its lowered and you want those specs its going to be 250 bucks

still worth it but i mean really, i wonder how much stock lifetime is...

[poshatch]

so i did what i said id do, i took off all the preload and made the spring snug against the top hat

the rear still dosnt seem to go low enough which is the problem with these coilovers

i still havnt taken the car out and seen if it will handle like it did before, i havnt noticed that it got less "stiff" but i did notice its less bouncy

so ill have to play it by ear i guess

thanks to everybody who gave their 2 cents!

[Fidel_Cashflo]

My PBM coils come today! My buddy got his last week and they are just about the nicest coils I can think of for $1000... I would buy em if they were $2000, theyre really nice coils. Im soon to be making an order for the steering angle kit, rucas, and tension rods...

[poshatch]

My PBM coils come today! My buddy got his last week and they are just about the nicest coils I can think of for $1000... I would buy em if they were $2000, theyre really nice coils. Im soon to be making an order for the steering angle kit, rucas, and tension rods...

yeah they are just about the best out there, im probably going to sell mine and get these

how is the height along with the preload adjustability and stiffness on them? and hows the 10kg/8kg?! haha

and that steering angle kit is ballin! you having them do it or you know a welder? 32 to 56 DEGREES FTW!