im done with tein coilovers, time for new ones???

[OM3GA]

Pick the ones that look the coolest.

[poshatch]

Pick the ones that look the coolest.

haha well i think the DMAX look the coolest looking with PBM second KTS third and Stance GR + last

[sr_240sx]

How many inches they drop? your teins!!!I have Tokico shocks with Eibach sport line springs and they go 2.1 and 2.2" lower than stock.

[duffman1278]

Tenzo

[poshatch]

How many inches they drop? your teins!!!I have Tokico shocks with Eibach sport line springs and they go 2.1 and 2.2" lower than stock.

haha well...

stock ride height you can put your fist in between the front fender and the tyre no problem

on the stock 15's i was tucking half the tire (195-60-15) without drooping and currently ive got about 10-15mm of clearance on my 16x8 with a 205 stretch and 2.5 degrees neg camber

sooooooo alot? idono haha

idono why but i maxed out my camber plates in the front and its only 2.5 degrees. that seems pretty weak consittering they are somewhat decent coilovers, i rub VERY SLIGHTLY on full stiff on hard turns and im gonna try to pull my fenders out a little more since i cant run anymore camber

[poshatch]

Tenzo

didnt even know they made coilovers

could they really be better than PBM, Stance, DMAX or KTS?

[95.240AZN378]

pretty new company, heard a lot of good from the company, and they're nice people.http://www.fortune-auto.net/productpage.htm

[poshatch]

pretty new company, heard a lot of good from the company, and they're nice people.http://www.fortune-auto.net/productpage.htm

those are interesting, never heard of them, they look pretty sweet

kinda like the DMAX coilovers (the rear bottom purch is so long!) custom spring rates are nice...still though

rougly in the same price range too with the 1300 bucks, id still probably go wtih PBM cause they seem like the most legitimate company out there overall, plus i like their policy if i break their coilover

[240lookis]

fortune auto coilovers are legit. they dont lose suspension travel with lower ride heights so they are great for daily driving if you want your s*** slammed.

[poshatch]

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fortune auto coilovers are legit. they dont lose suspension travel with lower ride heights so they are great for daily driving if you want your s*** slammed.

thats pretty sweet, yeah im looking for limited suspension travel

the pbm wouldnt be comperable in that regars?

and your going to have to forgive me if im wrong but i could have swore that suspension travel was govorned by preload and dapening not ride height
Modified by poshatch at 6:54 PM 1/27/2010

[jayrawr]

i have stance gr+pro, i love them ! not too stiff, and not too soft. and they go pretty damn low, my front crossmember is about 1 inch off the ground maxed out. i daily and track them and they've held up fine. as for spring rate i believe mine are 6k 8k not too sure thouhg

[Gabes13]

they dont lose suspension travel with lower ride heights

What's that supposed to mean?All the other coilovers mentioned are bottom mount adjustable too.So travel is only affected be the adjustment knob...

[poshatch]

see this is what im dealing with right now

dosnt look low enough to me...

and the camber plates on these tein he's are maxed out at 2.5 degrees

so i need something thats a bit more adjustable, lower and more adjustable, and stiffer

[poshatch]

ok sooo...ive been looking into the coilovers that i had narrowed it down too

PBM, DMAX, Stance, and KTS ultra lows

i ruled out stance because for 1500 bucks i want something PERFECT and the springs look like their length is longer than the other coilovers as well as the 8kg/6kg spring rate being too soft

im leaning away from the DMAX because of the inverted mono tube (bottom dampening adjust) but not ruled out completely

now...

my next question for those who own the remaining ones is....how much front camber are you able to get out of the top mount camber plate?

one of my current problems is my tein HE winding masters dont allow for enough camber in the front, only 2.0-2.5 degrees (and im rubbing slightly on the fenders on hard turns on full stiff)

and i want to be able to run slightly more camber and also even out the front and the rear heights

my friend has kts and he can run close to 3.0 i believe and the pbm look like they can as well

just would like to know, thanks everybody for all the input your giving me

[nismotuner1]

I'm running -3 degrees in the front on my superdrifts and could go more on the camber plate. Are your control arms bent or something?

[blacktop sr20kid]

Dmax are very daily driver friendly. Super comfy.

i 2nd Dmax!awesome people! great coilovers! i dailyed with them for 2 years in Montana winters and Arizona summers.

go really low also

[blacktop sr20kid]

im leaning away from the DMAX because of the inverted mono tube (bottom dampening adjust) but not ruled out completely

and im pretty sure the inverted mono tube system has better dampening properties. they stay cooler when your suspension is under heavy load on the track.

although the adjustment knob isnt in the most practical place. they supposedly last longer

[poshatch]

and im pretty sure the inverted mono tube system has better dampening properties. they stay cooler when your suspension is under heavy load on the track.

although the adjustment knob isnt in the most practical place. they supposedly last longer

yea i read that too

the adjustment is just more of a pain than top mounted ones but its not a huge factor in my decision

the pbm come in 10kg/8kg with 6kg free if you ask for it so i could run the stiffer set up or the softer set up if i want, while the dmax come in 8kg/6kg only

my main concern for these coilovers (since both are extremely good) would be the top camber plates and which one gives more adjustability over the other, just upon looking at the camber plates of both they both seem comperable

[Gabes13]

Here's where you run into problems.I have PSM coils.As low as they go.Camber plates maxed.Stock s13 LCA.And have about -2.5 degrees of camber.

Problem 1.It doesn't matter how long the slots are on the camber plates.You're going to be limited to camber b/c of the tiny hole provided on the chassis.You know, on top of the strut tower.

Problem 2.You'll naturally gain negative camber when you lower the car.But, once the LCA becomes less horizontal and more verticalYou'll start to gain positive camberTotally negating the negative camber you get from lowering the car. Essentially, the lower you go, the more positive camber.

DMAX on the other hand,Has slotted bottom Brackets for a little more negative camber at the wheel. PSM does not have this feature.

If you really want gobbs of negative camber,you're going to have to get s14 LCAor Adjustable onesand/or modify the top of the strut towers to enable more negative camber.

[poshatch]

i am begining to think that they are bent because both are maxed out, and one side has 2.0 degrees and the other 2.5 degrees of negative camber

i needed more camber due to clearance in the front but i pulled my front fenders and now it isnt a problem, i would just like to eventually replace them and roll them and not have to pull them and run a little more negative camber but maybe not

and the he's are no where near butting up to the chasis at the strut tower

there is alot more room for it to be able to go but it cant because of the design of the plates

and i get what your saying about the LCA and positive camber...im gonna have to work out all these problems, still waiting on the federal return before buying the PBM or the DMAX so i still got time to think about everything

Here's where you run into problems.I have PSM coils.As low as they go.Camber plates maxed.Stock s13 LCA.And have about -2.5 degrees of camber.

Problem 1.It doesn't matter how long the slots are on the camber plates.You're going to be limited to camber b/c of the tiny hole provided on the chassis.You know, on top of the strut tower.

Problem 2.You'll naturally gain negative camber when you lower the car.But, once the LCA becomes less horizontal and more verticalYou'll start to gain positive camberTotally negating the negative camber you get from lowering the car. Essentially, the lower you go, the more positive camber.

DMAX on the other hand,Has slotted bottom Brackets for a little more negative camber at the wheel. PSM does not have this feature.

If you really want gobbs of negative camber,you're going to have to get s14 LCAor Adjustable onesand/or modify the top of the strut towers to enable more negative camber.