Im doing what you wish you could (56k your in trouble)

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killernoodle
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Sure the car is a unibody, but the unibody only comprises a certan percentage of chassis rigidity. If all the heavy parts are still bolted to the frame (engine, suspension points), then a rusted out frame rail makes the whole unibody weaker.

Frame rail rust isn't going to be $200 to fix to have someone else do it. If you had the tools and skills (torch, sawsall, welder, etc) you could do it cheaper, but to fix it right it would cost quite a bit more than $200.

The point is that for $200 you should be able to find a shell that has little to no rust to fix. This is the ideal situation.


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dude, that **** is beat. I say send that one to the scrapyard.

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Griz
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DriftBoy07 wrote:Props on trying to save a 240, but as said the budget is unrealistic. Unless your friend is as passionate about saving the car as you are though Id ditch it too.

BUT If you REALLY want to save it then fix all the rust and just swap an SR in there, forget the front end as well as the RB and youll have somewhere to start.
He is actually more passionate about it than me. He wanted a good restoration, HE picked this car out, i showed him the rails before he bought it.

Now is 2 pages of flaimng necessary? 90% of you are copy & pasting from the post before you.If you have something constructive (thank to those that do) feel free to add it.Otherwise, how bout we go to a different thread?

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kainvamp
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"Im doing what you wish you could"

Nope.

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killernoodle wrote:Sure the car is a unibody, but the unibody only comprises a certan percentage of chassis rigidity. If all the heavy parts are still bolted to the frame (engine, suspension points), then a rusted out frame rail makes the whole unibody weaker....
Holy balls you must have researched for hours to figure that one out! Who woulda thunk??!You completely missed my point, and I said the rails themselves cost about $200. Some comprehension 101 might be a good idea.

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dude all i have to say is if thats the car your buddy wants built even with all the rust then go for it. it reminds me of an old saying "a fool and his money are easily separated." not flaming you but your friend should have listened to you about the rust. I have no doubt in my mind that the car can be brought back to its former glory and i wish you and your buddy all the best even though i think the budget will get maxed out before the car is finished. i honestly wish more people would get rust fixed than to crush cars. like i said good luck with the build.

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killernoodle
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Stripes wrote:
Holy balls you must have researched for hours to figure that one out! Who woulda thunk??!You completely missed my point, and I said the rails themselves cost about $200. Some comprehension 101 might be a good idea.
What exactly crawled up your a** and died? I didn't miss your point because you didn't have one. Where are you getting this $200 quote from? I know I would charge more than $200 to fix that much rust on a car if someone brought that into my shop.

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I don't wish to be building a project car on a rusted frame, but that's just me.

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Ghast
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Throw some of the magic patch stickers you have all over the car on that rust at the frame rails and....

BAM! ! ! !

Problem solved.



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too much cancer

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killernoodle wrote:
What exactly crawled up your a** and died? I didn't miss your point because you didn't have one. Where are you getting this $200 quote from? I know I would charge more than $200 to fix that much rust on a car if someone brought that into my shop.
dude hes not talking about a quote from a shop to fix it, hes talking about the price of the parts themselves, no labor included because some people can fix that them selves, i am one of those people, NO ONE but me touches my car for repairs

and as i said before, everything he wants and NEEDS done is WAY over 8K, and ill prove it if he wants my too

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Griz
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gregfarz78 wrote:
Its not with the right tools but the point is this guy paid $2500 for a rust bucket , if he paid $100 for it I wouldn't fault him at all


WrongIts not stockIf you notice i put TOTAL SPENT=$2500This is including parts.SuspensionControl armsCamber kitRims

And as previously stated, its not as ridiculously far-fetched as you guys are making it out to be to save this thing.

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ahskeetskeet wrote:

And as previously stated, its not as ridiculously far-fetched as you guys are making it out to be to save this thing.
Yes it is, you just haven't realized it yet.

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sebazztard
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you bought all that including rimz knowing the body is pretty shot? lol. oh well. prove us all wrong, you wont. we've seen it before. theres a build on here somewhere and he spent nearly a year + on rust restoration and decided to scrap it because it was not worth it. it took me a year and half alone just LOOKING for a clean rust free body to work with to avoid a money pit that is a rusty 240. ive owned a rusty one myself and tried to keep it going for 4 years but it spreads like a wildfire. but you arent going to listen to me or anyone else so consider it a free post if anything.

AutoShadow
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, and 700th post.

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TroubleBound
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ahskeetskeet wrote:Passenger Side Frame

Will UPDATE
Wow man you're right this is EXACTLY what i wish/dream for every time i find an eyelash, or get a birthday cake. I just wish mine looked like this so i could spend countless hours and money on it.

Heh okay jk about being an a**, but i would have held out for a little bit better condition one than this. I had money to buy a 240 and wanted one so bad but had to wait 3 months of patience before finding the almost rust free hatch i got. Good luck though, it will take some patience/persistance to finish, but i hope you do, for the sake of that poor Nissan. 8k is a pretty good budget, but youre off to a pretty bad start as far as money managing goes.

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dak0n
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my old blue 240 was the love of my life, i would of sold anything i owned to get it fixed and running, i still feel sick in my stomach today thinking about how i had to get rid of it, but after spending more money then god on the car, it just finaly hit me that the money i spent fixing the car could of prob bought me 2x s13s mint, and maybe a s14 lol, even though i loved that car if i could take it back i prob wouldnt of lol. but the point is, in the end i had to finaly come to terms that the car was done.. i had no prob with the under rust and the frame rails and the holes etc, i was gonna get everything repaired, and the frames were bad too, but it wasnt untill i pulled the motor out and noticed everything hidden was rotted out, the rust spread all around, and well its just not worth it. the point of this forums is people like u, who dont have alot of experiance with situations like this, to come and get advice by hundreds of people who have been through the exact same thing u r, we would give anything to restore the cars, but in the end we all come to the sad truth its not worth it, now for the people that actualy listen to peoples advice on here, they end up saving ALOT of time, money, headaches etc, just to find out that in the end, they r gonna be in the exact same spot as all of us were, and then u can give advice on here about how not to build a rust bucket, cause in the end weather u think so or not, u will be regretting dumping all ur money into nothing. so for your sake, (and i know there is exceptions to everything) jsut get rid of it, dont make the same mistakes that hundreds of 240 owners have made. thats all i wanted to say, if u wanna throw away 8k its not my money, i alrdy threw mine away..... besides, for 8k u could prob find a alrdy running rb 240 that needs minor fixes, then bam, half ur list gets finished for ur budget, and i agree with everyone else, i origonaly priced everything i wanted to be about 10k, and well i think iv spent over 30 at this point lol. so have fun


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