Im doing what you wish you could (56k your in trouble)

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240life
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Are you sure your his friend? He might punch you after he realizes you wasted $8k of his and all he has to show for it is a rusted out 240...personally this is not an attack, but you could find a shell without rust for less then the cost of materials...you could then find some kid who is blind to sell that body kit to and invest in some decent engine parts cause i can promise you 8 grand does not go along way in a car where you are doing a complete engine swap.g/l with that frankenstein of a 240 I hope your friend gets a qualifed (once again not an attack on you) person to give his opinion on that cars chances of amounting to anything more then a very expensive paper weight


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slyedog240sx
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Rust is horrible.It can be fixed but quite a waste of time.8k, eh not even close.You'll have between 4 and 5k in the rb after upgrading turbo and the other stuff.Praise for the effort, but a big putdown for even having that thing licensed on the road.

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kornmanz
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Trade me your wheels!

elvis240sx
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I just parted out my 240 due to rust that wasn't even 1/4 that bad. Seriously, these things are a dime a dozen. Pick up another shell and just use all of the best parts off of them (ie. door handle) to make one nice one to start out. An RB swap is enough work in itself, why start out with a few months worth of body work? Besides, if that frame rail isn't repaired correctly, you will still fail any sort of state inspection.

Also, if the previous owner covered up rust with carbon fiber stickers, what else may be hidden in this thing?

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sebazztard
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hate to bring you down but no one wants to be like you here. that shell is garbage, you are wasting his money. find something better, think with your head not his wallet.

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1SickSilvia
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thats really rusty man, I'm with the others , get a better shell. It woulb be a waste to spend so much money on rust repair when you could just get another shell for under a grand. Your friend is not gonna be happy with your decision.

ZX88
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8k? good luck.

ILoveMyRHS13
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Oh you dirty bastard. You're doing EVERYTHING I've ever wanted to do to a 240. Start with a complete rust bucket that isn't even safe to drive, throw a haggard, typical "I just want to upgrade enough to run retarded amounts of boost" RB25 swap in it, put it on some DOPE reems y0; oh and I CAN'T forget about the sweet coilovers... Oh wait, the garbage KYB/Ground Control suspension. f*** that thing will handle like its on rails... Underwater. You're a complete idiot if you think you're going to do that for under $8,000. Maybe if you do another project eBay... Oh wait, that didn't work out so well, did it? It's s*** like this that makes me hate this community.

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lol @ the comments

I just read the first post again did you really pay $2500 for that rust bucket? You can get a clean rust free shell for like $1000 and save yourself a lot of hassle. I'm surprised that thing is even drivable like that you can tell some ricer teenager owned it I mean come on vinyl over the rust spots, runs in that krylon special paint job, sheet metal screws holding on the "body kit"...he'd have to pay me $2500 to take that car

Logan76
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I would use a 57 trim turbo...If you spent 2500$ on that shell, I feel bad for you.

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ChampaignSilviaS14
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Seriously...... I got my S14 for 2800 and its straight as an arrow. That car is worth 1000 tops, but NOTHING in my book. It should be scrapped.

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domiballa
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dude part that thing out and set it on fire before its to late.. or sell it to another sucker

and to the guy who was raggin on ground control/kyb I have kyb shocks with ground control sleeves and my s13 handles better than almost every "cool one piece coilover setup" 240 ive driven.. so learn your stuff before you talk...

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killernoodle
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My bro found a S13 shell in good condition (no rust, doo-doo brown interior and some minor body damage) for $350.

Save the money and find a deal like that to start with. Take the half-worthwile parts off the rust bucket and put them on a good shell for god sakes before you car splits in half, killing you and someone else..

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A 350hp rb would rip that rusted can a new ***hole. I cant believe you payed 2500 for that! and those rims are just xxrs!

ILoveMyRHS13
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domiballa wrote:dude part that thing out and set it on fire before its to late.. or sell it to another sucker

and to the guy who was raggin on ground control/kyb I have kyb shocks with ground control sleeves and my s13 handles better than almost every "cool one piece coilover setup" 240 ive driven.. so learn your stuff before you talk...
You must have driven on D2/KSport/Megan garbage coils then. Go drive a car with PROPER suspension then go masturbate to your cheap garbage suspension.

mrgreeneyes
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whew, i just surfaced, but luckily i found your wheels!!!

gimme that $8k, you don't have any idea what to do with it

Cone Junky
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ILoveMyRHS13 wrote:You must have driven on D2/KSport/Megan garbage coils then. Go drive a car with PROPER suspension then go masturbate to your cheap garbage suspension.
Not the Ground Control debate again...

Ground Control springs are far from garbage. Problem is that most people use them to slam thier rides. The adjustability is mainly for corner balancing and adjusting rake. GC uses Eibach springs, pretty much the market standard. With the proper spring rate mated to a quality shock, they will handle just as well as anything else on the market.As for KYB, they're perfectly competent as a stock replacement, but not a very aggressive performance shock.

Quality of suspension usually isn't a problem. It's the quality of the purchaser and installer that matters. Most Donkeys on here just want to slam it to the ground. No questions about valving or spring rates, just "how low will it go?". Then no matter what suspension you have, you've completely destroyed your suspension geometry to look like a ricer...

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s13 iDRIFT
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Repair frame rails (being done as we speak)Fix minor surface rust on body (previous owner hid it with CF tapeNew coat of Satin Black paintDitch the rear bumper for something elseCarbon Fiber hoodS15 front end

Engine: (350hp goal)RB25 SwapBigger InjectorsNew turbo (throw me some suggestions)Top Mount ManifoldExhaust (havent decided what yet)Cams (again throw me some suggestions)A good tune

Interior:NEW SEATS- F S13 SEATS!!Sparco Steering wheelShort Throw Shifterr33 ClusterAuto-meter boost/oil pressure gauge

ALL THAT IS DEFF GONNA BE OVER 8K. ENGINE ITSELF 2500, CONVERSION ATLEAST ROUND 2000 FOR A NICE ONE.

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Conquerer
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Damn, that rust is horrible. Good luck with whatever you do, but it's going to be a huuuuuge b**** to fix all that rust. Rust is the worst thing to fix on cars.

Sometimes you can become attached to a car and I know that feeling, but in this case you're absolutely better off getting a new S13. Hell, even you gave this one away for free you would still be better off. Gonna cost more than a good condition S13 to fix that rust.

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21nemesis
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What size R those rims? I've got 18X9.5" in the rear and am thinking of getting over-fenders so that I can drop the car more. But, the over-fenders you've got are too big for my liking. What are those 50mm?

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breadbox
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I looked at a 280zx with way less rust for 700. I am telling you to part out anything that will make money back on the shell. Or cut it up for parts later.

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SullivanRacing06
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lets see your wanting to spend a max of 8k?

yourve spent 2500 on a s13 that has massive amounts of rust? a rb25 swap is going to cost you a minimum of 4k if its going to be reliable, (rbs require allot of things all the time) go on the rb section of nico and ask any one on there, theyll tell you the same thing.

ditch this frame and do a sr swap, youll save yourself allot of money and a hell of a headache!

just my .02

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mRodiek
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Props on trying to save a 240, but as said the budget is unrealistic. Unless your friend is as passionate about saving the car as you are though Id ditch it too.

BUT If you REALLY want to save it then fix all the rust and just swap an SR in there, forget the front end as well as the RB and youll have somewhere to start.

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Well, I like what your trying to do. I would have to agree with the fact that the shell isnt good. I cant blame ya because when you jump into stuff without having any previous knowledge of it, you get burned. When I bought my first 240 I paid $500 and it had good rails, but the trunk and rocker panels had rust. I also paid $900 for a KADE motor. Now I've been doing this for a couple years and have alot more knowledge on stuff and made better deals. My new 240 is rust free and I paid $300 for it. I also find KADE motors for $300. So I just laugh at myself now when I look back.

I think wanting a nice looking car, and 350WHP for under 8K is do able, but not easy. I think you should keep the outside looking basic, and do the RB swap. Do some power upgrades and you will have 350WHP, with a basic exterior.

Lastly, I love widebody cars, but they only look nice when the wheels make it to the outside. I would either take it off, or get wheels that are much wider, and have a lower offset.

Heres my buddy Marks car. He has a widebody on also, but everything sits flush, so it looks nice.


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musashin
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Well, I like the widebody, but as everyone said, that rust is not worth saving.

B1GGrosch
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scary rust!

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I think you guys officially scared him away....LOL

skeet skeet dude if you're still out there come back!

Let us know if you're looking on nico classified for a new shell...PLEASE! I'm losing sleep at night....

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Didderson
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Man if by doing what I wish i could you mean fixing rust frame rails. I hope I never have to, but i'm sure i could :P.Misleading thread title. Makes it seem like you're some kinda baller whos going to get tons of sick parts.GL with the repairs and getting rid of the KAe

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Stripes
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I don't see what the huge deal is about fixing rusted frame rails in our cars. It's a unibody, so use it to your advantage with fixing them. Take em out, and weld in new ones. I have seen it done so many times and it really isn't as ridiculous as everyone makes it out to be. In my opinion there is no reason why a 240 that needs ~$200(?) rails should be junked.

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Stripes wrote:I don't see what the huge deal is about fixing rusted frame rails in our cars. It's a unibody, so use it to your advantage with fixing them. Take em out, and weld in new ones. I have seen it done so many times and it really isn't as ridiculous as everyone makes it out to be. In my opinion there is no reason why a 240 that needs ~$200(?) rails should be junked.
Its not with the right tools but the point is this guy paid $2500 for a rust bucket, if he paid $100 for it I wouldn't fault him at all


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