ikeya sequential shifters....

[crakin]

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.co...G.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...lated

Anyone one running one of these or a variation of it...How does it feel?Is it practical?Does it shift well/fast?

never heard of them before now just found one and the vids on you tube seem ok. Anybody have any takes on these?

[Dittoz7]

"The Ikeya Formula sequential shifter converts conventional H-pattern shift to a sequential up and down shift mechanism. The clutch is still required, but the movement is dramatically simplified. When you push down the shift lever, the drum in the SEQUENTIAL SHIFTER starts rotating. This drum has grooves which control the left and right movement of the lever. It means 1st ->2nd gear change produces a right direction movement due to slant cut grooves. This movement repeats from 1st gear ->5th gear. Next, we will explain the back and forth movement. This is controlled by rotating the crank which is connected with the drum by the gear. This crank rotation enables the crank plate which is connected to the shift lever to move back and forth. This crank plate moves left and right because of the bracket movement which is fitted in the grooves. Due to the combination of these two movements, if you pull down the lever from the neutral position, the lever pulls down to the left front. If you pull down the lever one more time, it moves to the front first, then moves to the right and then to the front direction again."

LOL WUT?

[TheBlaiant]

Umm....English?

[numbnuts240]

Umm....English?

it make car go "vroom".

[Hijacker]

I have a bridge to sell you...

[mattblancarte]

Novelty.

If you want to look like you have something serious going on with your gearbox when you don't, this may be for you hehe.

Akin to fake intercoolers.

[hatedinthemind]

I think its a pretty cool product. When you compare it to the price of a legit sequential gearbox its pretty reasonable. I just dont like the fact of the big black thing in the middle of your center console

[Alfador]

I understood the explanation perfectly. It's the kind of thing that sounds like it just might work. That is of course until you realize it's taking a simple situation and over-complicating the hell out of it.

[mattblancarte]

^^

Exactly. Sequential gear shifters are meant to shave down lap times when mated with a straight-cut gearbox. Also, it can free up the driver to left-foot brake as a clutch is not required for shifting dog boxes (aside from starting in N, R, or 1).

This Ikeya sequential shifter is mean to be mated with synchro-aided gearboxes. You still have to use the clutch, you still have wasted time shifting.

[TheBlaiant]

it make car go "vroom".

Ahh. You are wise indeed.

[S13Teddy]

I'm buying one for the Skyline. Doesn't matter if the shifts are faster, there's less thinking to do when shifting.

[Alfador]

Does anyone else notice the naming similarities to "Ikea" and the thus implied shoddy construction and liklihood of failure?

[S13Teddy]

Does anyone else notice the naming similarities to "Ikea" and the thus implied shoddy construction and liklihood of failure?

Umm, I'm pretty sure Ikeya Formula parts are of exquisite quality.

[mattblancarte]

Yeah, I wouldn't doubt the quality of that part.

Have you had trouble selecting the right gear while drifting, teddy? It's a serious question, not trying to flame or mock.

I have a hard time buying the idea of it saving you thinking power.

[adrianfromthecastle]

Does anyone else notice the naming similarities to "Ikea" and the thus implied shoddy construction and liklihood of failure?

its sad when people are starting to forget reputable brands like Ikeya and start primarily looking up to brands like Megan and Isis.

On the topic, my buddy has this shifter on his vert. Its pretty cool, and it even comes with a little mountable digital indicator to tell you what gear your on. Btw, it also raises the shift knob a bit higher too

[impact240sx]

I belive most of the porsche gt cars have a trans like this. They can go up through the gears w/o clutch, but need clutch to go down the gears. Its kinda cool how they're set up, they're like pressure sensitive so whenever your hand is on the shifter the computer is getting ready for a shift..

[sldwys]

Im running one of these for my CA, No trouble whatsoever. And IMO I wouldnt touch any american branded but chinese made Crap like Megan or ISIS. Safety first for me and that includes me buying on reputable gear for my s chassis.

[S13Teddy]

Have you had trouble selecting the right gear while drifting, teddy? It's a serious question, not trying to flame or mock.

I have a hard time buying the idea of it saving you thinking power.

Haha. Well, not really, but I have mis-shifted in a transition and it was in neutral rather than 2nd gear. That happens a lot. I just like concept, and when it comes to more technical courses where you keep shifting between gears I guess it would be nice. In all honesty, shifting sequentially just looks cooler.

I belive most of the porsche gt cars have a trans like this. They can go up through the gears w/o clutch, but need clutch to go down the gears. Its kinda cool how they're set up, they're like pressure sensitive so whenever your hand is on the shifter the computer is getting ready for a shift..

But those really don't have anything to do with Ikeya Formula shifters. GT cars have complete dogbox transmissions with straight cut gears.

The Ikeya Formula shifter ONLY replaces the shifter on your stock transmission so that instead of using your habitual H pattern, you will now only push up to downshift and pull down to upshift.

[r34 gtr]

sldwys, I hate you even more now. Nismo ITB setup, CA18, Ikeya sequential shifter. Way to lord it over me.

I have been wanting an Ikeya Formula sequential shifter ever since I missed the opportunity to buy one for $500 like, six years ago.

[S13Teddy]

I'm just going to buy one new from Nengun. $1300.

Ouch.

[assassin7420]

IF anything these make your shift time slower. Go watch a video of one.

In order to shift down you have to move the shifter up, release it back down to the center position then push it up again. In other words a shift per gear.

Thanks, But ill stick to my short shifter where I can go from 5th to 2nd in one movement.

[robertcoupe]

s13teddy......How are you able to throw around so much money?Non of your parts are cheap, and then to upgrade to a skyline, where very few of your 240 parts can be reused. I think you prob high jack trucks with your childhood friends from your neighborhood. you all prob use 3, blacked out 240's. They should do a movie about this, I'd watch it.

[crakin]

yeah all I get from it is that you go from h-patter and a genie makes it a forward and backward style.If you look there is a little lever near the base that you have to control to put it in the neutral or reverse position. just wondering if anyone is using one of these all though they are sort of pricey.

[kouki munster]

IF anything these make your shift time slower. Go watch a video of one.

In order to shift down you have to move the shifter up, release it back down to the center position then push it up again. In other words a shift per gear.

Thanks, But ill stick to my short shifter where I can go from 5th to 2nd in one movement.

In a racing environment, you don't drop from 5th straight to 2nd, you downshift into every gear on the way to second(and release the clutch) and use the engine to aid in braking. For a car that spends most of its time on the street it is for the most part pointless, but for a car that lives on a track it is very useful and can shave some time off laps and help to improve consistency.

[crakin]

Seems like it would take a little bit to get it down right. but maybe Its easier than it looks. How much are the setups where it bypasses the clutch?More I'm sure but that seems like a cool setup to put on a 240 to flaunt at any hotrod buddies who have their Hurst shifters and what not.

[S13Teddy]

IF anything these make your shift time slower. Go watch a video of one.

In order to shift down you have to move the shifter up, release it back down to the center position then push it up again. In other words a shift per gear.

Thanks, But ill stick to my short shifter where I can go from 5th to 2nd in one movement.

What? I don't know what crack you're smoking buddy, but to shift down you push the shifter up ONCE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ0L-hkSMlY

And who in the world shifts from 5th to 2nd?

s13teddy......How are you able to throw around so much money?Non of your parts are cheap, and then to upgrade to a skyline, where very few of your 240 parts can be reused. I think you prob high jack trucks with your childhood friends from your neighborhood. you all prob use 3, blacked out 240's. They should do a movie about this, I'd watch it.

I probably don't have any more money than you do. I just know what to buy, where to buy it, and I save my money to buy the parts I want. I don't settle for less than what I want.

I also still live at home, so I don't pay ALL of the bills, only some.

Either way. I'm not rich, nor wealthy, nor even comfortable and neither is my family. I just try to make a point of saving up to buy what I want.

[crakin]

^^^

[S13Teddy]

IF anything these make your shift time slower. Go watch a video of one.

Here. Just in case you don't get it, here are some more videos for you. The shifting may not necessarily be faster, but I really don't understand how you think it's slower.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFHAeeU4rnI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHzv6XbFg48

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHLEUijdW50

[mattblancarte]

Those are all straight-cut gear engagements in Super GT. Much, much faster shifting than can be accomplished with the Ikeya kit and OEM synchro gear engagement we're talking about in this thread.

[S13Teddy]

Those are all straight-cut gear engagements in Super GT. Much, much faster shifting than can be accomplished with the Ikeya kit and OEM synchro gear engagement we're talking about in this thread.

Yes, I know that, but he's referring to the movement your arm has to make to perform the shift. He says that it is painstakingly difficult to push the shifter forward, wait for it to come back, then push forward again to drop 2 gears.

As he mentions here.

IF anything these make your shift time slower. In order to shift down you have to move the shifter up, release it back down to the center position then push it up again. In other words a shift per gear.

I'm just showing that the movement is actually really fast. Actually faster than H pattern shifting in my opinion.