IDAHOTUNERS: Big Bore Sr22 Twinscroll Gt30 Build

Post by **White Comet** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:37 am

lol that song is my ring tone and its the first thing i thought of when i saw those parts

Post by **idahotuner** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:31 am

yay rods and bearings came in today. now i will be hitting up the machine shop to get the parts balanced so i can start assembling.

Post by **idahotuner** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 12:33 pm

wow i setting ring gap is a freaking PITA. took my like an hour and half to set just one

Post by **duffman1278** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:55 pm

haha didn't I tell you?!!?!?

I can't even imagine how people do that for like 10 cylinders or 12 lol.

The parts are looking good

Post by **Justin35ll** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:49 pm

Screw you I'm jelous! Lookin good man

Post by **idahotuner** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:32 pm

well i all reayd screwed up lol. the freaking oil rings are thin and i was being extra careful setting the gap. but i put a little to much pressure and it broke. so i have to order another one tomorrow. its only like 5 dollars though. so not a huge deal.

Post by **playero_loko** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 7:08 pm

idahotuner wrote:well i all reayd screwed up lol. the freaking oil rings are thin and i was being extra careful setting the gap. but i put a little to much pressure and it broke. so i have to order another one tomorrow. its only like 5 dollars though. so not a huge deal.

and you talk about winning the lotto for the nice parts??? lol hey bro send me a pm in regards to how much that came ou to, im very intereted... you rich guy!

Post by **positron1** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:49 pm

Sweet sweet candy! Great progress man, that is super clean.

Post by **idahotuner** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:04 pm

lol ight

well rods and acl bearings came today. and the bearing are the coated ones. only got them cause they were out of the others.

crappy cell phone pics. i dropped my camera and now it takes black pics lol

here is the motor on the stand

Post by **MastaYu** » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:47 pm

Nice looking parts

Post by **Slideways^Jordan** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:21 am

Nice Ben glad to see you jumped on this build quick after we were talking a few weeks ago on AIM. sux the only thing I wouldn't have gotten was those darton sleeves if it was my block to build I would have used LA sleeves but those dartons will get the job done. I'm also building my SR block right now as well ill make a thread later after more parts are in! I'm glad you went with Mazworx, their like the SR gods in the USA.

Get a AEM EMS, much more useful and easier then a PFC IMO :P spend the extra money!

So you got the 9:1 cp pistons 90mm? and this is better for what now? I thought you would want the stock compression 8.5:1? Ben shine some light since you already talked to Mazworx

PICS PICS PICS LOTS OF PICS PLEASE!!! :P

Post by **idahotuner** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:28 am

dude jordan did you get banned from zilvia? lol what happend?

yes i talked to mazworx about the compression ratio. they said it would make tuning it easier with a 9 to 1 compression, and that it would also increase spool.

didn't say exactly why but that is what they told me.

i need to get my old block sent back to them for the core exchange. and i need to get some other stuff done so i can start assembling it.

thankfully i took my last final and am now on spring break. hopefully i ca nget some money for some extra parts now.

Post by **Slideways^Jordan** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 5:34 am

idahotuner wrote:dude jordan did you get banned from zilvia? lol what happend?

yes i talked to mazworx about the compression ratio. they said it would make tuning it easier with a 9 to 1 compression, and that it would also increase spool.

didn't say exactly why but that is what they told me.

i need to get my old block sent back to them for the core exchange. and i need to get some other stuff done so i can start assembling it.

thankfully i took my last final and am now on spring break. hopefully i ca nget some money for some extra parts now.

Yes i did get banned from zilvia but now im unbanned haha :P this build is badass mang keep it up. FULL RACE BEN!!! what are you building it for exactly goals?

Website · Post by **mRodiek** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:09 am

Idaho when you did your oil drain tube->turbo, did you seat the studs into the turbo?

Post by **tonis56** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:57 am

Nice looking build. Brings back memories of when I did mine

Post by **idahotuner** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:18 am

Slideways^Jordan wrote:Yes i did get banned from zilvia but now im unbanned haha :P this build is badass mang keep it up. FULL RACE BEN!!! what are you building it for exactly goals?

yes full race gt3076 kit. planing ot make power from about 3500-8000 with a nice flat torque curve and any where from 450-500 rwhp on pump gas.

DriftBoy07 wrote:Idaho when you did your oil drain tube->turbo, did you seat the studs into the turbo?

seat the studs. the oil drain on my gt2871 i just used copper spray-a-gasket and tightend down the oil return to waht i thought i would work good.

tonis56 wrote:Nice looking build. Brings back memories of when I did mine

so what standalone did you go with.

Post by **tonis56** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:17 am

idahotuner wrote: so what standalone did you go with.

AEM EMS. You cant go wrong with it.

Post by **srdub-t** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:33 am

ever thought of the haltech? thats what ima run on my mazworx 2.2

Website · Post by **mRodiek** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:42 pm

I tried and a large chunk of metal broke off of my turbo.. Pics in my thread if your interested, I wanted to make sure I did it right

Post by **tonis56** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:21 pm

DriftBoy07 wrote:I tried and a large chunk of metal broke off of my turbo.. Pics in my thread if your interested, I wanted to make sure I did it right

I saw your thread, damn that sucks. Did you get a hold of FRsport?

Post by **Stripes** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:55 pm

srdub-t wrote:ever thought of the haltech? thats what ima run on my mazworx 2.2

I'm planning on doing this as well, but I don't think this would be the #1 option as far as user friendliness goes.

Website · Post by **mRodiek** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:59 pm

I might sound like a noob when I ask but whatever-how much do standalones generally cost? How hard is it to self tune?

Post by **jr_ss** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:52 pm

If you don't know anything about tuning, it's quite hard to do by yourself. Each system varies, but the average standalone for the SR is 1400-1700 dollars, depending on what you get with the kit, i.e. sensors... Tuning is something that I would leave to the professionials. I'm sure I could do it, but I'd rather pay someone else to blow my motor up, that way I get a new one fo free should they mess up...

Post by **mistamacadamian** » Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:02 pm

this is going to be a sick build. lotsa lotsa pics please

Post by **codyace** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:34 pm

Stripes wrote:Personally, I find it much more respectable to build the absolute piss out of an SR. I used to glorify the ls swap until I read Brian Wilkersons build thread on ziptied. Wow...... really make me want to get another SR

Respectable in which way? To prove you have more money?

Dollar per dollar, thta LS1 is going to provide more managable, cheaper, and more power than our SR's will.

Trust me, my car is fun. 411/335 on a 2871 .64 is a absolutly smile inducing ride, but the fact remains I'd rather have 400 whp/400ft lbs ls1/ls2 under the hood. Heck cam only ls1's do that....so f***in simple.

idahotuner wrote:
yes and no. the main problem started when i did the burnouts.i just ran it to long in 1st gear.

before that the car was set up perfectly.

1st gear has nothign to do with the motor blowing. It has the least amount of load on the motor as well....and with a burnout even less.

Your tune or timing was way off. There is no other reason to melt down and destory a piston like that, unless it's detonating/preigniting (well, there are, such as when the large manifold grommet was blasted up around the injector (extreme lean condition). Oh well.

But seriously, not trying to put you down or anything, but you had something wrong in there. All those little pit marks are like detonation graffitt marks....whether you want to accept it or not is not for me to care about, as I know what causes them. Id' be willing to bet that any long pulls in 3rd/4th gear did the main damage...heck even a trained hear wont' hearing a ping at thta RPM...just to much noise going on. On top of that, our knock system does not even register there.

Ben wrote:i am going to school in southren washington so it is quiet a bit warmer her then if i was at home. at home they just got 18 inches of new snow

Ah, that's freakin cool man. What school? I've always wanted to travel to the southern WA / Northern OR coast line....

idahotuner wrote:
yes i agree. except methanol injection is something i am going to look into and aem is capable of that. we will see.

Meth injection is great stuff, but not somethign to rely upon. Make it safe at the octane level first, and then use meth to makeit all happy. During a track day, most turbo cars get sluggish towards the end of the day (or even worse in the summer)...click on the water injection and it's like a cold fall day all over...plus our exhaust smells minty haha.

Love the progress though. Sleeved block is big boy...surprized you're not going 35r.

Post by **idahotuner** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:41 pm

yeah you made some good points.

the school is walla walla university.

the gt35 is a sweet turbo. and the thing is its how of the rang i want to do. or at least the rpm rang.

but then my over bore might bring it down into the range.

i know with the gt3076 i will make a soild 450 at the wheels it an awesome torque curve.

twin scroll and higher compression should help with spool too. comparison of the gt2871 .64 t oa gt3071

the ls1 would bea sick setup. but that would kinda defeat the purpose of beating up on v8s lol.

Post by **MastaYu** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:19 am

^ nice. do you know what which transmission you are going to use?

Post by **idahotuner** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:38 am

stock tranny and when it breaks i will do either a vg tranny or a vq tranny.

Website · Post by **mRodiek** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:03 pm

You shoulda gone RB Speaking of which..why didnt you? lol

Post by **MastaYu** » Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:37 pm

idahotuner wrote:stock tranny and when it breaks i will do either a vg tranny or a vq tranny.

o ok nice

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