Ichiba front 5 lug question, are mine messed up? (pics inside)

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This is what mine look like:





My question is, should that spring seat looking thing (2nd pic) be out like that? I mean it's easy to put in but it's like kinked at one spot.

Lastly, when I place the hub onto the axle/spindle(?), there isn't enough room for the axle nut washer to be placed on. BUT, If I just take the inner and outer hub seats and put them on the axle, the washer has room to fit. So I'm guessing the seats should already be pressed inside the hub?

Axle nut washer that i'm talking about:

Seats:

In the last pic, you can see how the washer sits flush. If I place those seats into the hub and put the hub on, it sticks further out and the washer cant sit flush. Shouldn't the seats come pressed in anyway??

I don't want to install the hub with no axle nut washer, doesn't seem safe.



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not safe dont use them return and get new

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You know that happened to me too. I ended up getting nowhere with Ichiba and had OE bearings put into the defective one.

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call ichiba they have a tech that can speak with you over the phone

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ZOMG.SR20 wrote:not safe dont use them return and get new
I would love to, but I got these from a KA-T member so I guess I'm SOL.
OutToWinPAHC wrote:You know that happened to me too. I ended up getting nowhere with Ichiba and had OE bearings put into the defective one.
Yea that looks like my best option right now. Any recommendations where to get the OE bearings?
Kalypso wrote:call ichiba they have a tech that can speak with you over the phone
I sent them an email explaining my issue. If I don't get a reply within a few days, I'll call them. They're closed today anyway.

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OutToWinPAHC wrote:You know that happened to me too. I ended up getting nowhere with Ichiba and had OE bearings put into the defective one.
Just making double sure, but you can press in OEM wheel bearings into Ichiba hubs? I take it you used the S13 wheel bearing to match the S13 knuckle. Correct?

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Correct

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Ordering up a replacement OEM bearing tonight!

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Bumnah wrote:Ordering up a replacement OEM bearing tonight!
Where are you getting them from and for how much?? The only ones I found are around $100 EACH!

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2nd pic looks like spring/retainer for lip seal is efed-up, and where is the inner bearing race(wait I see it 1st pic)?

I hate these Ichiba that's why I went with OEM parts when I did my 5lug. You can always go to parts store and get OEM parts all day long. Good luck with that.

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jeb1517 wrote:
Where are you getting them from and for how much?? The only ones I found are around $100 EACH!
www.thenismoshop.com

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I bought a $150 set or knock offs on ebay and they came in perfect.

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I went there and went to Catalog > Suspension > Hubs & Spindles and checked out everything that was there. I didn't see any s13 bearings or even s14. The cheapest thing was s14 front hubs.

Autopartswarehouse.com has oem wheel bearings for about $50 each.

Are s13 and s14 front wheel bearings the same? I might just buy someone's old 4 lug hubs and use the bearings.

That Ebay set for $150 is a good deal if the bearing comes in good.

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placham wrote:2nd pic looks like spring/retainer for lip seal is efed-up, and where is the inner bearing race(wait I see it 1st pic)?
Yea they were already out of the hubs when I got 'em. OEM is expensive but worth it I guess.

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killernoodle wrote:I bought a $150 set or knock offs on ebay and they came in perfect.
Awsome! Safety first, right?!?! Can't be those china quality made automotive parts!!

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Hey Bumnah, I couldn't find anything at thenismoshop.com, could you send me a link of where you got yours from if you bought em already. I'm thinking of ordering one of these:

http://www.autopartswarehouse....rings)

^One of the first two (probably the first one)

The only other place I found just the s13 front wheel bearing was:

http://www.frsport.com/NSK-Fro....html

It's $10 more per bearing but not sure if there's any difference. Can anyone comment on any of those 3, like which one I should get. Probably gonna order the first one in, the first link, tomorrow.

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http://www.trademotion.com/par...14761

Go under: "Search by Factory Part Number"

Put in this part #: 4021071L00

Under "Make" say "Nissan"

Hit "Search"

You should get your wheel bearings.

I paid $93+ shipping for one bearing.

It's more expensive, but it's OEM. I'd rather buy OEM when it comes to wheel bearings.

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Daym $200, I'm not baller like that. I'm already way over my budget for this 5 lug swap. I'm just gonna cross my fingers and order the $50 ones. Thanks for your help man.

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MY ichiba bearings didn't last a year.

You started this thread because of your bearing issues.

Spend the extra $ and get it FIXED.

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faaawwwwkkkkkkk......so you got the ones all the way at the bottom of that page you showed me, the oem ones? they're all the same price....sigh...I mean you are right. I'll just have to wait a lil longer before ordering

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What's wrong with 4 lug? Just save up and get quality stuff. Keep your steelies until you can afford to upgrade.

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killernoodle wrote:I bought a $150 set or knock offs on ebay and they came in perfect.

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ALL of these hubs are just reverse engineered from nissan parts, so of course you can press OEM bearing into the hub. Dur dur dur.

OEM bearings from Nissan are the best and will last the longest. Just like everything else that comes 'from the factory' and not a knock off, the OEM requires higher build quality for liability reasons, as well as longevity...

If you can't afford OEM wheel bearings for the car there's another problem. Priorities. How much did your cell phone cost?

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SmithSR wrote:ALL of these hubs are just reverse engineered from nissan parts, so of course you can press OEM bearing into the hub. Dur dur dur.
One would hope that's how aftermarket manufacturers approach the problem. Reality is they only need to make sure the inner diameter of the bearing fits the shaft of the knuckle/axle. The other diameter doesn't necessarily need to be the same diameter as the OEM bearing.

Even Ray @ West Covina Nissan was surprised that I was trying to press in OEM bearings on to Ichiba hubs. Looks like it's been done already, hopefully it goes on smoothly.

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Chris28 wrote:What's wrong with 4 lug? Just save up and get quality stuff. Keep your steelies until you can afford to upgrade.
There's nothing wrong with it, it's just that 5-lug is so much more right lol.

Sigh, whatever. You only live once. Just placed an order for 2 new oem bearings. I'll have an update in about a week or so.

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I just picked up a s13 with 2yr old peak performance hubs on it, no rust, look new. Guess what? One is going out already. $600 f***ing hubs and they are failing already. First thing I did was check the torque and they were dead on. I'll take my chances with ichiba and replace the bearings if or when something happens.

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lol Jeb your the guy who pulled up on me in the prelude in Heather Ridge last night right? Glad your spending the extra dough man, itll be worth it-and Bumnah really knows his s***

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Y'know, when i did 5lug hubs, I simply bought S13 bearings and installed them into S14 hubs.

The dealer has everything you need.

If you can't afford wheel bearings then I guess this hobby is expensive and not for everybody.

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SmithSR wrote:Y'know, when i did 5lug hubs, I simply bought S13 bearings and installed them into S14 hubs.

The dealer has everything you need.

If you can't afford wheel bearings then I guess this hobby is expensive and not for everybody.
NICE info! I've always wondered if you could do that. Obviously you're running s13 front knuckles.

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DriftBoy07 wrote:lol Jeb your the guy who pulled up on me in the prelude in Heather Ridge last night right? Glad your spending the extra dough man, itll be worth it-and Bumnah really knows his s***
lol yup that was me. Yea, I think I'll be glad I went this route when I look back. I was gonna use that money for tension rods but that can wait.
SmithSR wrote:Y'know, when i did 5lug hubs, I simply bought S13 bearings and installed them into S14 hubs.

The dealer has everything you need.
Daym I wish I knew that before I bought the Ichibas. So your whole setup is OEM, nice. I didn't want the s14 hubs because everything I read said I would've had to get the knuckles and the ball joint or at least modify the s13 knuckle. Hopefully someone in the market for front 5 lugs for their s13 sees this thread.


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