Iam giving up, losing all hope

[TrueSlide]

I am ready to give up and get rid of my car, time after time again it will not start, it turns over, it gets fire, has compression but will not start!!! Iam growing tired of this very fast, and ready to just give it, this experience is horrible, Iam losing my interest in cars in general, no body seems to be able to help me and I cannot understand whats going on, I keep putting more and more $$$ into the car and Iam going no where. I think Iam gonna give up. All I wanted was to get my car running so I could drive to work

[creophus]

Don't give up man! What happened to the car? Did it ever run? Were you doing an SR/RB/CA swap?

[TrueSlide]

The timing chain snapped and I was doing a rebuild of the motor, just a KA24E, and nothing will go right.

[Kaioshin1982]

dude i know how u feel.... even tho my car is running... constantly some problem is always coming up... but still im not gonna give up on it just yet... so shouldnt u

[Meantime]

I remember you saying you had a timing issue, did you resolve that?

You need 4 elements to have the engine start. Air, fuel and spark. The fourth element is, they have to arrive all at the same time.

The fifth element is a bad sci-fi movie...*badoom pish*

[TrueSlide]

Iam posative the timing is right!!! I was very very careful when doing it. I just bought new plugs today and they are firing. It turns over and occasinaly pops. I removed the injectors and might go get them tested(more $$ to spend)

[A_Rivers]

The fifth element is a bad sci-fi movie...*badoom pish*

Haha.. it wasn't that bad just ummm silly. yet funny in some wierd Salvador Daili way.

[TomsMR2]

i still think its the timing. the dealer checked my cam AND ignition timing for 90 bucks..

[240marcuSX]

Trueslide, Im doing an SR swap in like August, so i might be parting out the sohc, if you need any parts, i can give them to you, if i decide to part it out. just hold out til then.

- hate to see a nissan guy down

[Just another 240]

damn, trueslide i'm gonna rip out my auto bible and help you out...

[PalmerWMD]

Yes true slide we're with you.

Fred...

[Just another 240]

oh yea, trueslide, are you sure each spark plug wire is in the right hole? and the distributor is correct?

[TrueSlide]

Yes, the distributor is correct, and my ignitions timing order is correct 1-3-4-2. Is their away I can test injectors? Thats the only thing I could think of.

Thanks for all the support guys, it makes my day better.

[Just another 240]

injectors..u need a tool to do that...anyways i'm gonna write you a lil summary to help you.

[nismodave]

Hang in there man......I acctually kicked my car for the first time ever yesterday......

Stupid running rich problem......If an adjustible fpr does not solve the problem Im putting the car on e-bay.......watch me....

It does sound like a fuel problem......check your injectors and fuel pump..........other than that.......I dont know.........

[240marcuSX]

ive kicked mine twice, once doing a routine tune up, i dropped a nut underneath my fuel rail, and i couldnt get it out for a little while, i kicked the bumper and the license plate still hasnt fully recovered lol, and when i put my sway bars on, the socket wrench hit me in the eye and cut my eyelid, kicked it again, no dents though, serenity now , bored, just thought id share

[nissanrcer240]

Quote »ive kicked mine twice, once doing a routine tune up, i dropped a nut underneath my fuel rail, and i couldnt get it out for a little while, i kicked the bumper and the license plate still hasnt fully recovered lol, and when i put my sway bars on, the socket wrench hit me in the eye and cut my eyelid, kicked it again, no dents though, serenity now , bored, just thought id share[/quote]

lol, dont you hate it when you get so mad at inanament(sp) objects??

[red240ne]

giving up??? what? trueslide you can't leave us!

Last time I talked to you, you were psyched about getting it running, and weren't gonna let anything in your way.

[C-Kwik]

Checking the ignition timing is rather easy. Put the #1 cylinder at TDC on the compression stroke. Remove the distributor cap. The rotor should be pointing fairly close to the #1 lead. For cam timing, you can put the #1 Cylinder at TDC of the compression stroke, remove the valve cover and see if the location notch on the sprocket is just to the right of the oblong groove in the camshaft retaining plate behind the sprocket. Make sure you are looking at the Notch labeled 1. There are three notches in the SOHC KA as they allow for 4 degree timing changes as the belt stretches. Make sure the cam dowel is in the right hole, also marked "1". But if it's not even hesitating to start, I doubt cam timing would be the problem, unless you were about 180 degrees or so off. To check this, the rotor in the distributor should be pointed in the direction of the #1 lead and the valves for the intake and exhaust for the #1 cylinder should be closed.

I'd try disconnecting the MAF. If the MAF signal is bad or there is a large leak in the intake, it will not start. Disconnecting the harness from it should activate the default program and would at least rule that out. If you are getting no fire out of the motor, pull your plugs immediately after and see if there is a strong fuel smell or even fuel on the plugs. It's possible you have a leaky injector and are flooding the engine. I've done this before and it leaked enough fuel that the engine would stop turing over very abrubptly due to a slight hydrolock. Some fuel even got past the spark plug threads and pushed the boot up out of the hole.

[Cyberkreig]

Yes, the distributor is correct, and my ignitions timing order is correct 1-3-4-2. Is their away I can test injectors? Thats the only thing I could think of.

I thought it was 1-3-2-4. I could be wrong, and probably am if no one else said anything.. but It would be nice if it was somehting simple.

[slw240sx]

hehe, i broke off the tempsensor on my CA it was flush to the intakmanifold, i had already battled it for 15hrs strait with two separate oil leaks and then i break off this sensor with no pressure at all i freaking lost it! my friend was under the car and i started yelling and cussin he jump out cause he knew what was goin to happen, i threw the socket wrench at the wall picked up the hammer next to me and proceeded to beat the **** out of the parts car behind me i took out the rear quater window and most of the panel under it and the windsheild then i sat down and teared up... oh and before that the bumper did somthing when fitting the FMIC , i threw the whole bumper at the parts car and stomped the **** out of it , then i picked it up and put it on the car and proceeded to kick it till it fit on !, im about to go out now and just kick the car since im getting more an more pissed at it as i write and think about it !! dont give up truslide, i know how it feels i had my Ka 240 die on me the week my Ca was gettin turbo upgrade done and now my Ca wont run for a week at a time bfore giving me another problemn im ready to put a for sale add up !

[240marcuSX]

poor parts car.

[nlzmo400r]

wow guys, are these motors really that unreliable at high mileage??, its kind of discouraging for someone who is looking into a 24o, or a swap or somehting

[nismodave]

wow guys, are these motors really that unreliable at high mileage??, its kind of discouraging for someone who is looking into a 24o, or a swap or somehting

They are not unreilable .....just finicky when you try to mod them....

[Nismo1182]

did you pull the head off to make sure you didnt bend any valves?or that everything is wired back up and grounded properly. I made a grounding mistake on a friends swap, fuel pump didnt want to come on. Found the problem, car drives great.

[nlzmo400r]

well thats MY weakest area is the electrical part of it, and go figure, cars are becoming more and more electronic now days, and my father is an ELECTRICIAN!!, so anytime i have an electrical problem i ask him for help and try to learn myself, it seems electrical is where the LITTLE mistakes end up being the thing that keeps it from running properly

[240marcuSX]

well trueslide, it looks to me like we're in the same boat, and its sinking fast. i found out today, that i will not be getting the SR at all, ever, due to insurance risks, and other bull@#$#, i got so upset in an act of rage i threw my keys down and screamed sell the car, and call my boss and tell her i quit. i went up to my room and put a thursday cd in and the lyrics inspired me. "have we lost everything now?" and i thought well the only thing left i can really build and be far superior to everyone else is the suspension, and ive worked really hard and saved up like $4500 and i was all set. I guess all i can do is build the drivetrain and suspension up and drift like nobodys business, because ive read alot of people with AE86's drift with like 115 hp. We should meet up and drown our sorrows in the SOHC motor. by the way, about how much hp does your sohc have, and what is your best ET? Anyway, i'm not going to give up, and now with that $4500, and can buy top of the line suspension components.

- hate to BE a nissan guy down

[McAdam]

one other possible thing..... your distributor could be 180 degrees off. I hate it when that happens. or if your timing chain snapped you could have bent up valves as someone here already mentioned. that would suck. get a compression tester and see if you have compression, then check for spark, if you have that, get in the car, floor it while cranking and pull your plugs after cranking for 4 or 5 seconds, they should be wet with fuel. if you have all that, then I have NO idea why it wouldn't run. then you can =kick the crap out of it!!

McAdam

[JJ240]

you can check your injectors with a multimeter. Put it on Ohms and they should all read the same. I believe its around 10.6Kohms or something like that

[JJ240]

Like someone else said, if you are getting spark, and getting fuel. Its your timing. When I finished rebuilding my KA24DE it took me hours and hours to get the cam and ignition timing right. I started out 1 tooth off on the intake, and 2 teeth off on the exhaust.