I want to win a drag race

[dark-sky]

Hey whats up.

Well this saturday theirs going to be local street racing.I might participate. I wan't to be as fast as I can. Right now my car is stock except for a Stillen intake.And I don't have a job. so 20 bucks is my spending limit.I'd like to know how to get my car down the road faster.please help me. thank you.

[black180sx]

id say dont race if you cant afford a ticket... but you can always do some weight reduction for free...hahaha. i.e. spare tire, jack and so on.

[SMoKeM240]

buy a buch of octane booster and run just that stuff

[Xero]

^ if you want your car to run like ****

[Red coupe]

$20 isnt going to make your car faster, 200 wouldnt even make it much faster just rip everything out of your car, spare back seats, take out the passenger seat for the night, rip out interior pannels cause the only way your gonna get faster is gutting your car, maby buy the best gas you can and bump up your timing a lil?

[neagan]

Hey, here's a couple items to do that will help. First off though, figure out if it's drag racing OR street racing. What you do to the car is dependant on straight line or curves.

A) Take the $20 bucks and buy some groceries that MELT, like milk, eggs, and popcicles. That way if you do get pulled over, it's amazing how many cops will suddenly reconsider if they think that you might have actually really been just returning home with perishables!

B) Clean your intake and tighten the accelerator cable play. For some reason lots of people miss this and they throw away free horsepower.

C) Index your plugs

D) Tyre air pressure. There are optimal settings depending on the car and road you're driving. You've already weighed your car with you in it and a full tank of gas havn't you???? When possible push the tyre pressure up close to 10 pounds over the basic tyre recommendation. It's less tire patch on the road, but also a lot less friction drag

E) Depending on the outside air temperature, you can duct tape closed your grill, pull your side-view mirrors flush, keep windows shut tight.

F) Wax the entire car including the windshield with 3 full coats of wax.

G) The headlights pull a lot of drag when their up. What can you do about that?

H) Try to keep less than 1/4 tank of gas at the time to rock. Each gallon of fuel weighs approx 7 pounds. Add that to 15 gallons, then multiply by the amount of horsepower needed to move one hundred pounds. It's an eye openerI) Consider throwing a bag of ice over the intake just before you step up to bat, You will definitely feel the difference as you throttle up. Just don't be letting it dribble over a tyre.

J) having your timing advanced to max before preignition.

K) FRESH Air cleaner element

L) Put a bunch of tin foil between engine and throttle body.

M) Take off weatherstripping at back end of hood where it butts up against the cowl, or take washers and stack/shim the hinges so that heat off the top of the engine is being sucked out over the windshield.

There's plenty more, but that should get you out there fairly quickly. To bad you don't have someone who would lent you their G-Tech machine so you can read all the gains you got! Don't forget to lower the tyre pressure back to normal for the trip back home and dump the ice so cops don't wonder why you're loosing fluid out from under your engine compartment. Have fun AND LET US Know how it went!!!! Nitro

[dark-sky]

Well I'm taking everything out the back. thanks.It already has no seats back their.Head lights i'll leave up. Cops might be their. As long aspeople don't fight, they don't bother us though.

I'll look into doing the suggested advice. thanks.what about the free mods, like removing some smog sensor or something.

also my car has a k24e, seems the last owner blew the original engine. mayberacing. since I bought it with no rear seats.
Modified by dark-sky at 6:46 AM 4/11/2005

[9240sx]

You can also gutt your cat or remove the muffler section of the exhaust.And remove ps and ac belts if you got them.

[Ajax]

Practice your launch. If you can get out of the whole quicker and not bog, you'll have an easier time.Be careful on the streets though, no more wrecked nissan stories please.

[boke_as_hell]

jst a couple more suggestions...usually the "NUT" that needs the most work is behind the steering wheel...I suggest lots of exercise and eating right...oh! and try driving naked...less weight=faster times

[2s4x0]

Am I the only one here who realizes how ricetacular this is????? lol, OMG. If you want REAL uber tyte HP gains read this yo!

1) 20in. Aluminum spoiler = 20hp.2) 19in. Chrome Spinners = 10hp.3) And for the ultimate HP gain............. OCTANE BOOSTER = 45hp.

Oh yeah, I forgot, you only have 20$, just go with the octane booster

[Riceless]

Wow, am I ever surprised. Guess I didn't know you guys as well as I thought. I saw the tread title and was expecting a big

[mmatl16]

ya i thought this was gonna be a big flame post and was shocked to see people TRYING to give advice but i stopped caring after i noticed most people's post counts.

no credebility

here's my advice

1-sell your car before you wreck it. street racing is dangerous and you could lose the privilege to drive. plus if your caught, your 20 dollars is not gonna get you out of impound.

2- take your car to the nearest legal drag strip and work on launching. nothing you do is gonna help your times with 20 dollars unless you gut your car down to the metal.

[surfwax95]

Not everyone with low post-counts is a douchebag.

I saw this post the other night and thought someone would get on his *** right away, but people kept giving suggestions.

I have one:

Don't street race. street racers

[mmatl16]

Not everyone with low post-counts is a douchebag.

Edited for stupid commentary.

BTW, you might want to look at your own post count before you start getting big e-nuts about post counts.

- Nismo_Freak

[SMoKeM240]

i ran a 16.2 with headlights up and mirriors out and i put those down and ran a 14.8 at 120mph!

[1991S13]

Putting the headlights down and pulling in the mirrors improved your ET by more than a second? I find that hard to believe...

Don't risk your license (and your life for that matter) street racing. Sure, its a rush and a big ego booster and all that...but its really not worth it. Do you want to risk not seeing the day when you actually do have a bada** track car just so you can impress Timmy and his crew in their Civics and Mustangs?

[neagan]

Talk smack all you want, but it's the little things that add up, and some people have the headlight kits so they don't have to raise the headlights up very far In addition, on a well lit street you can get away with not even needing headlights (pop-up vs the newer body styles).

As for waxing the car, check up on some wind-tunnel tests. Mirrors and headlights add a big wind drag, by the way. Plus I don't need your permission to make a list of possible suggestions. It's fools like you who... well never mind, you arn't worth my time, being that you're obviously dumber than a sack of hair. Nitro

[neagan]

oh, by the way stuttering mmmmmmatt, 640 posts don't mean much if you're an idiot.....

[240marcuSX]

so you want us to suggest things that will make you "dangerous mad tyte street racer" go faster? get a job. find a track, street racing is for faggots that cant build a car to compete in real racing.

[mmatl16]

Removed more completely moronic commentary.

- Nismo_Freak

[HashiriyaS14]

Firstly: People are always going to street race. This is not a new phenomenon that began when "Fast and the Furious" came out. I'm not saying it's a good idea, but it's unrealistic to expect people to stop doing it, or even to stop talking about it on here completely.

Second: It's about recognizing where the bottlenecks are. Aerodynamics is not a bottleneck for a stock 240sx.

Weight reduction, run 93 or 94, advance timing, airbox mod, etc... Don't get arrested or hurt yourself, if you do, it's your own damned fault.

Don't expect to win much either, because you won't.

[mmatl16]

Don't expect to win much either, because you won't.

basically what I said. stock 240's are slow and are going to be slow until you put money into them

"Put a bunch of tin foil between engine and throttle body"

if you do sh1t like that your going to be laughed at like this guy right now

[neagan]

Finally, Michael, your last post shows a bit more maturity.

The original post wasn't about quarter mile drag times (come out to Infinion raceway sometime for our Wed night drags), rather it was a kid who didn't have ANY money for modifications who wanted to eek out anything he could to speed up his car and the time frame was just a few hours.

That's his choice. Not yours, nor anyone else here on this board. Forum boards are not made so we can slam someone with our 'opinions', it's there to help. So why didn't you offer him any help? You're making big knowlege claims, yet other than 'weight reduction' as a key item what else did you bring to the table that was useful to this guy?

Yep, making sure your car is triple waxed sounds like a hoax, but there is fact behind such an idea. Remember me asking him what type of street racing he was going to do? Ever have a fatty spring-time insect hit your windshield when you're drifting into a corner at over 100mph? It'll scare the hell out of you and you'll instinctively jerk the steering wheel. If you keep driving fast someday it WILL happen to you.

As for 'foil', he dosn't have time to build any heat shields, for does he have ceramic coated headers for heat transfer. You should take a look at an engine compartment of people that run the salt flats. EVERYTHING IS FOIL WRAPPED!! Surely you understand the ratios of cooler air and fuel???? I thought from many of your 'other' posts that you were a forced induction fan????

Again, he's got 3-4 hours, what can he do besides pull out some weight? Let's hear it; we need to hear it, or else you're just a sniveler and a little ssssttutter-errr. Remember Micheal, you're suggestions have to conform to his original post. Chicken?????

[neagan]

Hey Red Coupe, thanks for giving this guy some help instead of just slamming him like some of the other cowards did. Nitro

[mmatl16]

what else did you bring to the table that was useful to this guy?

take your car to the nearest legal drag strip and work on launching. nothing you do is gonna help your times with 20 dollars unless you gut your car down to the metal.

ask anyone who really puts time on the track. launching is half the race.

come out to Infinion raceway sometime for our Wed night drags

how bout this if you think all your tricks help so much you come up here to sac raceway and me and you will take a couple runs. ill let you wrap up the whole car in tin foil if you want.

Ever have a fatty spring-time insect hit your windshield when you're drifting into a corner at over 100mph? It'll scare the hell out of you and you'll instinctively jerk the steering wheel.

o im sure your a savage drifter and and ur always coming intom corners at a 100mph. tell me who do you drive for?

hows this for stutteringyyyyoourrr lllllaughable

[neagan]

See, I knew you didn't have anything but hot air to offer....

[robertwb70]

C) Index your plugs

D) Tyre air pressure

F) Wax the entire car including the windshield with 3 full coats of wax.

M) Take off weatherstripping at back end of hood where it butts up against the cowl, or take washers and stack/shim the hinges so that heat off the top of the engine is being sucked out over the windshield.

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just a few corrections for the ignorant(I mean that by the strictist definition-not as an insult-no offense)

the plugs are in the center of the chamber-indexing would be a waste of time

tire is spelled with an "I"...

urban myth-you can't get 2 or 3 coats of wax-each successive coating just dissolves the one before it -and it will not get any thicker,slipperier,or last any longer than the first time -but it will ensure you don't miss any spots

the area at the base of the windshield is a HIGH PRESSURE area-nothing is going to come out from under the hood there-matter of fact it will go the other way...

[1991S13]

Remember me asking him what type of street racing he was going to do?

Okay, so we have established that he is street racing...

You should take a look at an engine compartment of people that run the salt flats. EVERYTHING IS FOIL WRAPPED!!

Once again, the kid is street racing, not breaking speed records on the salt flats. Wrapping your engine in foil isn't going to do much for a stock car that is running stoplight to stoplight.

It's fools like you who... well never mind, you arn't worth my time, being that you're obviously dumber than a sack of hair.

So I check out the threads you have started in the past to see how smart you are, I figure you must be a genius if you feel you have the right to get on a forum and start calling people "dumber than a sack of hair." BTW, that insult reaks of intelligence. You started one thread asking what engine you had in your '93 'vert. Then, you started another thread that was basically the same as this one. So a couple weeks ago you can't answer this question, but now you are know it all that spends your time on the salt flats and taking turns at 100+ mph.

You make me

[neagan]

Actually you post a couple good questions. First, indexing the plugs on this engine won't work- I'm not an claiming to be a know-it-all, nor did I attack anyone, I came to this board to learn specifics about this vehicle and what works best for THIS vehicle. I welcome ANY chance to learn; so, tell me more about why this engine's head design won't benifit from the indexing?

Second, regarding opening up the back of the hood for air flow. Weather the air flows out or in, dosn't it stand to reason that in either case it the transfer of air will help cool the engine compartment? Many of us who had/have Supras found it a necessary thing to do.

Okay, so you don't find value in the waxing. What about all the other suggestions. Were they a full pack of crap? Should nobody have offered this guy any immediate ideas other than weight reduction? Shouldn't he have the right to pick and choose what options to persue? It was a 'fun' question and I gave a 'fun' answer. I never claimed to be a mechanical engineer. Nor did I feel the dying need to slam someone else for my own ego's sake. Why do you need to 'be right'? Why do you feel the urge to correct my spelling on tyre? May I suggest that you peruse your dictionary? You'll find that tyre with a 'y' or an 'i' are both accepted english spellings.

Yep, a month ago I asked the same question about the 240sx I had just picked up. What does it matter??? What's the point in the criticisms. All I wanted to do was give the guy some valid options.

Third, Wax. It's my understanding that Carnuba waxes build up on each coat and Cleaner waxes are the ones to remove much of the prior coat?

Fourth, once again, what are we offering this guy who started the thread? The need to correct someone's spelling dosn't help anyone. Neither is being to scared to offer suggestions because someone 'might' feel the need to trash part of your ideas or worrying about a spelling mistake.

I'm glad you found correctable issues with my list for him. I don't have a problem with being wrong, if it's constructive. So, are you going to help this guy or pump sheep? Nitro