I smell like hawiian punch......

[ca18detgabby]

so it turns out ATF and hawiian punch may infact be the same product with slightly more water in the punch.

as some know i have a T28 BB turbo from an R33 that I picked up for 30 bucks. the guy told me it had no shaft play and just need are build. I was sceptical, but for 30 bucks even a complete rebuilt would be a superb price.

so we grabbed and it as so full of gummed oil(think it was bad seals) that the spool barely moved AT ALL. I had no idea what condition the shaft was actually in, but we took it and decided we would worry about that later.

sat night my BF decided it would be fun to crack it. after about 2 mins of removing the bolts and rotating the housings to get wrenches in we had it open. sure enough the thing was tight as funk.

his first idea was carb cleaner....... really didnt do much. other than the black inside(yeah turned out to be polished aluminium it was just that dirty) blew out the old oil and cleaned it up pretty good. we then used a cue tip to get the rest of the mess out of there. as with the exhuast side(as it isnt pretty on a normal basis) we tried cleaning but we having a hard time seeing what really was gross and what was supposed to look like that.

his little brother goes to UTI and recommended ATF(yes the stuff auto trans runs) that they had in the garage.

so we used mister pumpkin head(plastic pumpkin from holloween) and dumped each piece in and let it "bake" for about 12-36 hours.

turns out everything is in prestine condition now. the intake side spins superb and isnt the direct drive for the turbo. exhaust side spins AMAZING.

anyways so now I have the cleanest turbo on Earth and want to mount it. there are adapters to run a T28 on a T25, but isnt it all a T2 flange? If I do need an adapter wouldnt a exhaust manifold upgrade be line as well?

beyond the bottom mount ebay stuff is there any top mount units? I dont care if it is SSAC or w/e but I dont really like the bottom mounts.....

what other options do I need to look into?

PS I will post pictures of the amazing ATF magic. It is shockingly effective!

[articzap]

I thought all T2 flanges were the same...

[float_6969]

The SSAC mani is easier to install and work on, but the stock mani fights reversion and spools faster. The T28 will physically bolt to the manifold but the oil and coolant lines will have to be persuaded to fit.

Now to ruin your day. That turbo isn't much bigger than the stock CA T25 and due to it's inconel turbine blades, can't handle much boost. IIRC the outlet flange is also different and you will have a VERY hard time trying to find anything off the shelf that will bolt up to it.

My vote? Ebay that thing.

[themadscientist]

dam Gabby, you don't have a bucket!?

[ca18detgabby]

dam Gabby, you don't have a bucket!?

OMG are you at my BFs house? that is the exact one we used!

yeah I do but the camera is at his house so it makes it hard to post pictures

[Ca_Silvia]

Now to ruin your day. That turbo isn't much bigger than the stock CA T25 and due to it's inconel turbine blades, can't handle much boost.

My vote? Ebay that thing.

Are you talking about the R33 specific turbo or a s14/s15 T28? Because im pretty the size difference is worth the time and effort to upgrade.

Oh ya and Gabby definatly get an Ebay SS manifold it makes turbo removal so much easier then the stock manifold.

[ca18detgabby]

The SSAC mani is easier to install and work on, but the stock mani fights reversion and spools faster. The T28 will physically bolt to the manifold but the oil and coolant lines will have to be persuaded to fit.

Now to ruin your day. That turbo isn't much bigger than the stock CA T25 and due to it's inconel turbine blades, can't handle much boost. IIRC the outlet flange is also different and you will have a VERY hard time trying to find anything off the shelf that will bolt up to it.

My vote? Ebay that thing.

always mister no fun

it isnt much bigger? I dont want to run more than 15PSI and the stock CA one is good for that. however slightly larger at 15PSI should net me a few extra ponies. right?

worst case I will ebay the thing, but grandpa owns the largest welding shop in the s/e so I will see what we can fab up or think up before I just throw it down and sell the thing. when you say outlet flange are you talking the exhaust or intake outlet?

Im going to ebay the mani and if nothing else cave to my CA friend(who IS DUCKING ME) and get a GT28R like he keeps talking about.

compared to the SR T25 this turbo is about the same then? it is a .42A/R from what I gather on the turbine side....... the compressor side is .48 a/r

[themadscientist]

The R33 turbo is good to about 300hp. Don't take it past .9 kilo though, it won't like it. KABLOOIE!

[The_Chosen_One]

Ryan I think you mean Ceramic, Inconel is a very strong metal, stronger than steel.

[Chinamandrift]

gabby ......i just bought z32 calipers for my ae86 ......yes u read right MY AE86........anywayz .....they needa rebuild ...and i took pistons and seals off .....you think your magic hawiian punch would do wounders brightening my calipers up ??? cuz they are ugly and filthy .........jes wana spit shine....atf shouldnt hurt aluminum would it ?

dang i use to clean most my parts with brake cleaner ............imma have to try atf now hahaha

[The_Chosen_One]

china get them media blasted, it'll work better.

[themadscientist]

atf shouldnt hurt aluminum would it ?

Go stick a magnet to an automatic transmission, all will be revealed.

[ca18detgabby]

The R33 turbo is good to about 300hp. Don't take it past .9 kilo though, it won't like it. KABLOOIE!

thats more than my happy *** needs. God I cant even stay out of trouble with 200hp.....

[r34 gtr]

my CA friend(who IS DUCKING ME) and get a GT28R like he keeps talking about.

Since when have I been ducking you?!

[ca18detgabby]

Since when have I been ducking you?!

It took you HOW LONG TO POST? I was thinking maybe you were mad at me

lol miss you!

[ca18detgabby]

Go stick a magnet to an automatic transmission, all will be revealed.

maybe I dont know the science behind it so I will ask. aluminium is a non-magnetic metal, so what would a magnet reviel?

is it that it is an alloy? is it something to do with the fluids charge?

I is confused.

[Indecisive]

maybe I dont know the science behind it so I will ask. aluminium is a non-magnetic metal, so what would a magnet reviel?

is it that it is an alloy? is it something to do with the fluids charge?

I is confused.

chinamandrift asked if ATF would hurt aluminum. TMS told him to hold a magnet to a transmission to find his answer. If it sticks, it's not aluminum...if it doesn't, then it's some sort of non ferrous alloy(ie aluminum). So, if it is aluminum, then ATF won't hurt aluminum.

(the answer is, it wont' hurt aluminum )

edit: oh yea...pics please!

[ca18detgabby]

chinamandrift asked if ATF would hurt aluminum. TMS told him to hold a magnet to a transmission to find his answer. If it sticks, it's not aluminum...if it doesn't, then it's some sort of non ferrous alloy(ie aluminum). So, if it is aluminum, then ATF won't hurt aluminum.

(the answer is, it wont' hurt aluminum )

edit: oh yea...pics please!

lol got to love me not thinking enough.

yeah I will post pics tonight after I get out of work.

[float_6969]

Yea, I meant ceramic. It was late when I posted that. Too much Hawaiian Punch I guess...

[The_Chosen_One]

Yea, I meant ceramic. It was late when I posted that. Too much Hawaiian Punch I guess...

I see what you did their.

[Bwana]

Your problem is the fact that all the RB turbos are t3 flanged, not t2. Even though it's basically a t28...

[yourmomsrps13]

ive seen a few R33 turbo missing exhaust turbine blades because using ceramic was not one of the smarter things nissan has done.

[ca18detgabby]

FOR your viewing pleasure

with just carb cleaner this is what came out of the intake side



before ATF



after ATF



he did a good job!

[ca18detgabby]

ive seen a few R33 turbo missing exhaust turbine blades because using ceramic was not one of the smarter things nissan has done.

I was just curious as to why? Ceramic break pads and coatings on manifolds are more heat tolerant correct?

does it isnt like we are shotting pebbles at the turbine or something?

Only thing I could think of is miss handling

[biosehnsucht]

ceramics are not easily damaged by heat however they are brittle and don't bend under any form of stress, just snap. metals will bend under stress, and not fail completely..

[ca18detgabby]

ceramics are not easily damaged by heat however they are brittle and don't bend under any form of stress, just snap. metals will bend under stress, and not fail completely..

IC. very interesting always interested in learning new things.

[yourmomsrps13]

Gabby: use macro next time to take a close up pic, you will be delighted

[ca18detgabby]

Gabby: use macro next time to take a close up pic, you will be delighted

lol I have no idea what that means.

PS those are with a 2.1 MP camera from 03ish...... it is def time to invest in a decent camera. then again I just dont care to waste the money on something like that.

[yourmomsrps13]

lol I have no idea what that means.

PS those are with a 2.1 MP camera from 03ish...... it is def time to invest in a decent camera. then again I just dont care to waste the money on something like that.

Macro is just a setting used for close ups.I like pictures so i wasted my money, its like have a time line/scrap book of cars ive had, trips ive taken, amazing things ive seen.

sorry for being off topic, just a pointer

[The_Chosen_One]

On most digital cameras Macro is the flower.