i need better braking!

[aaronsnocker1]

Yeah I just posted the link about ten posts ahead of you. Those really look like a nice setup. I will hopefully be getting them this winter. Front and rear.

[babowc]

if you're not planning on seeing much track time, you might as well just get a nice set of pads and call it a day.and possibly get better tires.

brakes are half of the stopping.brakes are no use if your tires cant grip like your brakes do.

larger brakes = more cooling, not necessarily better stopping power.

[swwifty]

I track my 240 with stock brake setup. The only thing I've changed is brake pads and fluid. I have yet to reach the limit of my brakes. If you can easily lockup your brakes, then you already have plenty of braking power. Tires are mainly the limiting factor in braking power. Personally, I believe the Z32 brakes are overkill for the 240s unless you have race tires, and really know how to threshold brake well.

[Fahaka]

i saw them too, but the full set would be 1600, i think i will go through heavy throttle. it's too bad they don't offer the calipers or rear Z32 brakes. i wonder if i just went with the front Z32 brakes if i could get away with the stock master cylinder. i know that the front does most of the braking, but there is something wrong with my rear calipers (e-brake won't work, no matter what i do to adjust it)

OK I am a little late here, but the wilwood kit is $795 per axle for the 12.2" rotor/4 piston calliper and includes everything that you will need...there is also a 13.2" kit with a 4 piston calliper for $1100 or a 13.2" with a 6 piston calliper for $1400.

These brakes are awesome, and hard to beat for the price, everyone should seriously consider them.

[mmm240]

you guys didn't read very closely, i can't lock up my tires in the rain. and i have goodrich G-force sport tires (215/45/17) i know they aren't great, but very good and with the larger size wheel that i have, i won't have any clearance issues. and i will be heavy into tracking the car next summer (once i throw on a few more mods this winter), but thanks anyways for your inputstill haven't found an e-brake cable though

[Fahaka]

i saw them too, but the full set would be 1600

This is the reason for my post above...I thought I should clarify the price...

you guys didn't read very closely, i can't lock up my tires in the rain. and i have goodrich G-force sport tires (215/45/17) i know they aren't great, but very good and with the larger size wheel that i have, i won't have any clearance issues.

I'm not clear on what you are trying to say here and so I didn't address it. If you have factory brakes and you can't lock them up, I would say there is a problem...or am I not understanding...

[babowc]

um..thats a good thing you're not lockign your tires up in the rain.

so, why do you want to lock up the brakes/tires on the rain again?

[mmm240]

i was giving you all an idea of how much my brakes suck and that i have good tiresso that you can stop telling me to get better tires, i am asking about brakes

[babowc]

dude.. unless you MASHED the brake pedal, the wheels will NOT lock up.

what is your definition of GOOD TIRES?just good tread left on the tires?

you dont need to upgrade to bigger brakes if you're not planning on autocrossing or doing major brake-gas-brake-gas-brake type motorsport, which all i can think if would be autox.

i ran with stock brakes and upgraded pads until i sold the car, drove very "spirited", didnt give out a single stop, need i mention i had decent to good tires.

right now, i have a z32 front brake setup with 18x8.5 wheels all around and it stops worse than the stock brakes with upgraded pads did, only because my tires are looking like slicks.

moral of story, tires > brakes.bigger brakes = less brake fade.more pistons in a caliper = harder clamping force, obviously, heavier cars will need harder clamping force due to physics.however, on the other hand, 240sx weighs at most 2800lbs with driver.that is light.

i just cant justify the overkill of brakes on the 240sx unless you're planning some major autox.

*note* i bought my car with the z32 brake setup with the wheels, so dont give me crap about that.*

[babowc]

also,need i mention im just trying to save you your hard earned money?

the z33 rotor+z32caliper setup you were talking about will run AT least 500.big brake setup like ^^^^^ above,will cost upwards of 1500.a normal z32 front setup will run you around 200-350, depending on what parts you use.

[mmm240]

ahhhhh, end the madness. i'm only going to explain this once more. i WILL be tracking the car. i DO have good tires (goodrich G-force sport) i have 17in wheels (clearance of bigger brakes will not be a problem) i WILL be going with Z32 brakes. i only need to find a supplier for the whole kit, not just the Z32 fronts with 240 rears that heavythrottle has. and i also need an e-brake cable. i don't want used stuff.that is the summary of this threadi know you are trying to help, but if you're still confused just read the whole thread, what you are telling me was all covered and noted

so if anyone can help me find the FULL Z32 kit (new)(redrilled for 4lug would be nice) including the e-brake cable, that would be excellent, cause that's all i need to know at the moment

[babowc]

well, no wonder.the g-force sports are summer tires.not the best in the rain.

iirc, i dont think there are new z32 calipers, as its been more than 7or 8 years since they produced the car iirc.. 96 stopped, correct?

im too lazy to find all the stuff for ya,but you can just get the z32 rotors and redrill them yourself to 4lug, since its hubcentric, hard to mess up.gl.

[nismofly]

youre better off with stock brakes anyway

even if they are fading, thats better practice for when they fade during a race

just like tires...youre not even allowed to run r-comps or slicks in the lower skill levels at track days because they want you to learn how to drive, not just go around and have super tires covering up all your mistakes

just go with the z32 rotors, the kits that make z33 rotors work are only for 5 lug as well

i wouldnt even worry about the z32 rears yet, theyre a big hassle trying to get the e-brake to work and you wont need them

if i were you id run z32 fronts with a z32 MC and call it a day

[babowc]

im running stock mcits holding up fine for the fronts only.

just thought i'd share that.

[mmm240]

i wouldnt even worry about the z32 rears yet, theyre a big hassle trying to get the e-brake to work and you wont need them

my e-brake doesn't currently work anyways, so i would like to fix that. it is pulling the cable though, i guess it's something with the calipers

i will definetely upgrade to the Z32 master. i can get a brand new one with resovior for 120 from advance or a reman for 40 less the resovior

[swwifty]

i don't mean to sound like i'm coming down on you, but i'm really trying to do you a favor. You don't need to waste your money on z32 brakes. You can easily invest your money something else to make you faster.

If you can't lock up your tires in rain with the stock brakes, something is wrong. I could easily lockup my tires with the stock brake pads and fluid. The only thing you need to invest in is some good pads and fluid. Also I'd run brembo blanks for rotors as they are cheap, and have the most surface area.

After you have 10+ track days, you may need to upgrade to z32 brakes. I wouldn't waste your money on it now though.