I'm a ricer?

[crazspence]

so i posted this a few mins back on 3zc and just wanted to repost here since there's a wider variety of enthusiasts. for obvious reasons, people will agree with me on my views regarding the 300zx on that forum. i just wanted to post it here to get other opinions as well. oh and please, no flaming.

first off, i would like to say that this isnt a rant but rather a question that I seriously do not understand.

so today at Greddy Fest 2, I got called out for being a ricer when I stated my desired build/swap for a Z32 came up. I said that I would rather put a Turbo'd/TT VK56DE in a 300zx as opposed to a LS9 (ok seriously? if loved riding GM's nuts id just get a zr1 then assuming i could afford it. i own a 300zx for a reason.) i asked why it was ricer of me for wanting a SUV/Truck motor in the Z (even if there is a race variant version of the vk56) and the only response I got was that my purist thinking was ricer. ok call me a purist, but calling me ricer was a bit extreme. i mean i wouldnt mind other JDM motors in the Z but for me, a domestic motor in the 300zx is not an option.

my friends said that the LS9 was more cost efficient and said that the cost of parts for a build like that could be as low as $5k using GM suv blocks with vette heads. i mean, i have no doubt that the LS series motor is the best of what GM has to offer and that it does perform. On the otherhand, nissans VK series has also proven its own worth. Maybe the VK series might be more expensive to build but for the purpose of staying nissan powered, i dont mind spending a bit more. so my question to forum members here is that, "is my way of thinking considered ricer?"

i would like to hear opinions from both sides. i think that will help me understand the view of both sides since it wasnt clearly explained to me why my thoughts were considered ricer. i know that there are members here that are strictly performance oriented and have the thinking "if it fits, its going in." and others are will never let the Z see a motor besides the VG itself.

/discuss

[Dattebayo]

Seeing as how a VK is gonna cost you a bunch more and you get less power, it's not a good choice.

The same amount (if not more) of customizing is gonna be needed to make it fit, and there are no aftermarket parts around for the VK.

That comment was probably lobbed at you from a bunch of domestic tards tho. I would stop trying to please other people asap.

[AZ89two4Tsx]

Anybody who drives an asian import and modifies it falls under the umbrella of "ricer."

But really, who cares what others think? Do whatever you want. Are you really gonna take to heart what someone at a Greddy festival says? That's like HIN/Nopi or whatever.

While the LS would probably be a better choice, again, who cares. Do whatever you want.

[AZhitman]

Doing EITHER motor swap, by definition, pretty much eliminates the "ricer" label.

You do a VK swap in a Z32 and I'm gonna put you on the homepage. F those retards. 3zc is a big circle-jerk anyway.

[s0m3th1ngAZ]

It needs an LZ20.

[crazspence]

Seeing as how a VK is gonna cost you a bunch more and you get less power, it's not a good choice.

The same amount (if not more) of customizing is gonna be needed to make it fit, and there are no aftermarket parts around for the VK.

That comment was probably lobbed at you from a bunch of domestic tards tho. I would stop trying to please other people asap.

i fail to see how a VK swap is going to cost more than a built corvette ZR1 600+ supercharged crate motor. provided the fact that you cheapo it and source the interchangeable parts separately, you could get it for less but i still dont see it costing less than a VK. besides, for me its not about making more power than the guy next to you. just because you have more power doesnt mean your pen0r is gonna get bigger.

another thing, these builds are for the sake of uniqueness, which is a huge wow factor in my book. and to me, having the arguably best performance nissan motor (the race variant of the vk56 puts out 600+hp) in my favorite car would just be pure sex. if i was looking to make big power, i might as well join the bandwagon and pick up a 2jz with a huge a** borg warner sticking out from the hood pushing ~25+ lbs of boost and sucking air in like a black hole. event a nicely built VG30DETT would make massive amounts of power but thats not the point

Anybody who drives an asian import and modifies it falls under the umbrella of "ricer."

But really, who cares what others think? Do whatever you want. Are you really gonna take to heart what someone at a Greddy festival says? That's like HIN/Nopi or whatever.

While the LS would probably be a better choice, again, who cares. Do whatever you want.

really now? if there was sarcasm there, i failed to catch it. if that is truely what you think, i dont even know what to say. i think this picture would suffice.

[Jesda]

Have fun and don't wreck it. Z32s are classics.

[AZ89two4Tsx]

No sarcasm there at all.

Ricer came from a term used by American muscle car guys to make fun of import cars. Usually derived from the term "rice burner," it has since evolved into the word "ricer." Still used in a negative way, it's now exerted from import drivers who think their car is superior and tries to put down those who's car they see as inferior.

Import dudes like to make fun of other import guys just so they can feel better about their cars, usually more so than other enthusiasts. Even if it's an American car like a Cavalier or whatever, and is untastefully modified, it can be considered a "ricer" as well because most will see it trying to resemble something out of the Fast and Furious.

[Dattebayo]

for me its not about making more power than the guy next to you. just because you have more power doesnt mean your pen0r is gonna get bigger.

OK seriously, attitude, check it. I was trying to help. No more for you.

[AZhitman]

Anybody who drives an asian import and modifies it falls under the umbrella of "ricer."

But really, who cares what others think? Do whatever you want. Are you really gonna take to heart what someone at a Greddy festival says? That's like HIN/Nopi or whatever.

While the LS would probably be a better choice, again, who cares. Do whatever you want.

really now? if there was sarcasm there, i failed to catch it. if that is truely what you think, i dont even know what to say.

What was wrong with what he said?

You can't facepalm something without an explanation. For what it's worth, I think he was spot-on.

[crazspence]

i personally feel offended when people consider all asian import ricers. so i drive a lexus 460h, im a ricer? if i drove a LFA im a ricer? if i drive a GTR im automatically a ricer? that definition is wayyy to vague. even your average guy. he drives a stock camry, is he automatically a ricer? and apparently every single member of this forum is a ricer since this is the nissan and infinity car owners club. maybe you guys feel normal calling import owners ricers but here, its something no one wants to get called.

[Dattebayo]

Unrelated rant is unrelated. nobody here called you anything. Go somewhere and calm down. Don't post again until you realize how nuts you've been.

[TOMMY VERCETTI]

Just about any Car show that you enter or go to there will be always be haters out there no matter what you do or say or even show. You cannot make everyone happy in this world no matter what you do. Just do what you want to do and ignore the rest. It might be a better idea just to go to a Nissan show instead IMO.

[crazspence]

for me its not about making more power than the guy next to you. just because you have more power doesnt mean your pen0r is gonna get bigger.

OK seriously, attitude, check it. I was trying to help. No more for you.

this wasnt aimed at you dattebayo. im sorry if you felt like it did but im just tired of the social stigma that more HP = faster and better car. people these days place too much importance to oh a cars horsepower rating as opposed to everything else. slow car + driver mod will be better than average joe with fast car around the tracks.

[AZ89two4Tsx]

i personally feel offended when people consider all asian import ricers. so i drive a lexus 460h, im a ricer? if i drove a LFA im a ricer? if i drive a GTR im automatically a ricer? that definition is wayyy to vague. even your average guy. he drives a stock camry, is he automatically a ricer? and apparently every single member of this forum is a ricer since this is the nissan and infinity car owners club. maybe you guys feel normal calling import owners ricers but here, its something no one wants to get called.

Did you even see what I posted?

Rice burner is usually what ALL asian cars are considered by American guys, and maybe other countries, idk, who cares. It doesn't HAVE to be derogatory. Import enthusiasts took it upon themselves to use the word "ricer" to make fun of other import enthusiasts' cars.

What are you getting so worked up about?

[Dattebayo]

What are you, like 16?

Go cry about it or something. Sheesh.

[crazspence]

Unrelated rant is unrelated. nobody here called you anything. Go somewhere and calm down. Don't post again until you realize how nuts you've been.

actually, AZ89two4Tsx labeled me as a ricer soley based on the kind of car i drive.

[Dattebayo]

actually, AZ89two4Tsx labeled me as a ricer soley based on the kind of car i drive.

What are you reading? Because NOWHERE in his posts in this thread did he say that, you crazy person!

[crazspence]

Anybody who drives an asian import and modifies it falls under the umbrella of "ricer."

^thats not it?

[AZ89two4Tsx]

[Dattebayo]

HAHA WTF

You seriously need to get off the internet.

[Dittoz7]

I'm I a ricer?

[Speedy7_7]

Anybody who drives an asian import and modifies it falls under the umbrella of "ricer."

^thats not it?

NO!

[Jesda]

i personally feel offended when people consider all asian import ricers. so i drive a lexus 460h, im a ricer? if i drove a LFA im a ricer? if i drive a GTR im automatically a ricer? that definition is wayyy to vague. even your average guy. he drives a stock camry, is he automatically a ricer? and apparently every single member of this forum is a ricer since this is the nissan and infinity car owners club. maybe you guys feel normal calling import owners ricers but here, its something no one wants to get called.

YOUR NAME IS TOBY!

[dasoupdude]

wait wait wait so are you considered a ricer if your Japanese car has an AMERICAN motor?

[costa_rican13]

this is all just to funny. lol

[Dittoz7]

wait wait wait so are you considered a ricer if your Japanese car has an AMERICAN motor?

How about a french motor?
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[ADDirishboy]

actually, AZ89two4Tsx labeled me as a ricer soley based on the kind of car i drive.

Jesus tapdancing Christ. He didn't call you anything. He said that generally, in the automotive world, any person who mods an Asian vehicle is automatically labeled a ricer. He didn't call you a ricer for the swap you wanna do or anything.

i personally feel offended when people consider all asian import ricers.

Are you joking? Offended? At what, exactly? STFU and quit whining.

[MellowZ32]

dude check your attitude and stop getting butthurt so easily!

[RCA]

Rule of thumb:

If you feel you're making a questionable ricer decision just add another 100hp to the car.