I LEARNED'D something today!

[MellowZ32]

hear that sucking sound? that means that it's fresh

I leave for an hour, and everyone disappears..... Typical.

I'm here where did you get there rims of your S14?

[IanS]

I'm here where did you get there rims of your S14?

Europe.

They are easy to find in 4 lug. The five lug models were only made in very small batches.

Ive never seen another set here in the states.

[MellowZ32]

what's the name of the wheels anyway?

[IanS]

Rota Grid offroads Size 16"x8" offset is +10.

[MellowZ32]

no, I talking about this wheels

[Ar878]

I'm too good at wasting time I've been trying to study for finals all day and nothing has been accomplished. Uh oh.

[ADDirishboy]

I'm too good at wasting time I've been trying to study for finals all day and nothing has been accomplished. Uh oh.

I'm the same way. I'm supposed to be writing a speech I have to give tomorrow and I'm just trolling NICO and watching Top Gear.

[snwbrdr435]

I hate riding in peoples cars whose driving skills I do not trust. I can list on one hand the number of people I trust to drive. I honestly can not remember the last time I rode in a car with a women driver, other than my wife. Its been at least 2 years, bad drivers terrify me.

I fear for my life whenever my gf drives. Which is never, especially after she managed to flip her I30

[Ar878]

[ADDirishboy]

It's so true. I think I'm gonna go light off an M-180 or two...

[Ar878]

lol, I think I'm going to try and convince myself to study which will end up as me studying for 10 minutes and then getting distracted by something.

[ADDirishboy]

Good luck mang. I decided I'm just gonna wing it with my speech. Screw preparing. I have a 103% in the class anyway, even if I bomb it I'll get an "A" in the class

[ADDirishboy]

Ok some one needs to get on. It's lonely in here...

[Razi]

WATCHMEN!

[MinisterofDOOM]

Greeting! I'm awake and for the first time in 3 days don't feel like crap!

I'm writing the department of transportation a letter explaining how much they suck in nice friendly easy-to-understand terms. Maybe I'll post it up when I'm done with it.

WATCHMEN!

Dark Knight. Tomorrow!

...er TODAY!

[ADDirishboy]

WATCHMEN!

Yes! I'm glad some one knows what that is. I freaking love it. Can't wait for the movie!

Greeting! I'm awake and for the first time in 3 days don't feel like crap!

I'm writing the department of transportation a letter explaining how much they suck in nice friendly easy-to-understand terms. Maybe I'll post it up when I'm done with it.

Yes, please do post it up. I could use a nice laugh right about now.

[Razi]

Yes! I'm glad some one knows what that is. I freaking love it. Can't wait for the movie!

Same here!I was super stoked when I saw the first trailer.

[ADDirishboy]

That trailer is EPIC! And I love the song they picked for it. "The Beginning is the End is the Beginning" by the Smashing Pumpkins.

Here it is in case you wanna watch it again.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4blSrZvPhU

[Razi]

I'm watching it right now I have a feeling it's gonna rock!

[ADDirishboy]

Yea me to. It looks amazing, and it's got the driector from 300, so the visual effects should be brilliant.

[MinisterofDOOM]

My letter is done! (And LONG) It's condescending as hell but not angry or agressive and makes some good points. I hope to actually get some feedback from it so I'll know it's actually been read.

Here you go if you want to read it:

I'm a Davis County resident who commutes to Salt Lake City on I15 daily. This last year has been a significant one for construction, road work, and changes to the highway system where I commute. And, unfortunately, many of these changes are bad. I find my commute to be regularly unpleasant. That is why I am writing. I feel that it could be a very simple matter to drastically improve the the experience of driving on this stretch of I15 for all drivers.

The first topic I'd like to cover is the implementation of the new HOV/carpool lanes from Kaysville to Farmington (and and eventually beyond). And I specifically say "implementation" for a good reason. The lanes themselves are a topic of their own, but there is the separate issue of the exceedingly poor implementation of these new lanes. It has lead to significant congestion problem at key points.Part of the reason for this congestion is that, instead of being a new lane that splits off from normal traffic, the left lane abruptly becomes the HOV lane. This is a HUGE problem because most drivers (hereafter referred to as "stupids") are far too ignorant and narcissistic to make this transition even relatively smoothly. They're far too stupid to realize that they must vacate both left lanes unless carpooling or passing. The idea that the lane to the HOV lane's right is now the passing lane seems hopelessly beyond their grasp. So what we end up with is clueless drivers obstructing the passing lane (and therefor contributing hugely to congestion) and other clueless drivers stuck in the commuter lane that they're not supposed to be driving in. The un-crossable double-white bordering the HOV lane makes this worse, as those drivers then behave idiotically trying to decide which is worse: being in a lane they could be cited for being in, or crossing a line they could be cited for crossing.A couple of simple things can be done to help alleviate this problem. The basic idea is the same across the board: tell the stupids what to do so they don't have to try (and fail) to think for themselves. Signs should be posted sufficient distances before HOV lane transitions that inform drivers that the HOV lane will be REPLACING the left traffic lane. A simple "HOV lane ahead" with an arrow pointing left is NOT sufficient! This does not notify drivers that they must merge right to accomodate this new lane. The lane TRANSITION rather than NEW lane must be made clear.A second sign should be posted at intervals along the stretch of highway occupied by the HOV lane. It should clearly state that the new left lane (to the HOV lane's right) is no longer a normal travel lane and should be reserved for emergency vehicles and passing ONLY. There should be sufficent notice that traffic must shift right TWO LANES to leave the left two lanes open to do their jobsAs things stand now, the left 3 lanes generally remain occupied by slow drivers which prohibits passing. This means drivers must often cross multiple lanes to pass, and must then pass on the right. Both are unsafe. Something needs to be done to correct this issue. Perhaps it should even go so far as to have the left lane physically END before reopening it a few hundred yards later as the HOV lane. This would force drivers out of the lane before the transition.

This brings me to my next point:The HOV lanes are a bad idea in themselves. They do not serve their intended purpose. And the uncrossable double-white lines make them impractical. The HOV lanes would serve better as additional regular travel lanes. HOV lanes are easily defeated by stubborn drivers who refuse to drive at reasonable speeds. This leads to the HOV lane becoming it's own miniature traffic jam since the double-white cannot be crossed so no passing is possible. A clearly posted minimum speed limit of 65mph in the HOV lane would be fantastic. Perhaps even a minimum of 75 mph should be considered for that lane specifically.Instead of new speed limits, though, I propose the removal of the HOV lanes. 4 lanes of normal traffic are far more desirable and serve the whole of traffic much more positively. This would also eliminate all the above issues with the terrible implementation of these HOV lanes.A final suggestion is that Utah HOV lanes adopt a policy that some other states use. That policy is that HOV lanes are normal travel lanes (and double-whites can be crossed) during all times EXCEPT major commute hours. On weekends, at night, and other times outside "rush hours", the HOV lanes operate like normal traffic lanes. This has the benefit of offering "the best of both worlds" allowing carpoolers to benefit but keeping the HOV lanes out of the way when they are not needed.

HOV lanes aren't the only topic I want to cover here, though. The next question is of remnant construction zones. Why are there still signs denoting construction zone duration, reduced speeds while heading south from Layton? There is no construction. There are not even any cones or other orange barriers. Is speed still reduced? If so why? And if not, why are the signs still in place? Not only is the reduced speed irritating, but the mixed signals lead to the stupids causing more problems as they decided what to do. Additionally, if one was to be stopped and cited for speeding in this zone, would the construction zone penalties still be in place? Is 65mph speeding there or not? This lack of clarity is UNACCEPTABLE. If the signs are to remain present, construction should be in ACTIVE progress. If construction does not remain in progress, the signs should GO. I'm sure UDOT looses track of the purpose of highways occasionally (I've observed it many times) but they are in fact to convey automobiles from one point to another. They are NOT simply flat surfaces for hard-labor workers to endlessly employ themselves upon. The roads should be made back into fully functioning ROADS as soon as viably possible. That is their sole purpose.

Finally, I move on to the last issue I wish to cover: passing issues.I realize this is largely a UHP issue, but I still think a bit of "'stupid' handholding" could go a long way toward improvement here. UHP is lamentably bad at enforcing proper left-lane usage. Utah highways are notorious for ignorant unaware drivers impeding passing in the left lane. Everyone is familiar with the issue. It is highly problematic when a single driver can cause so much congestion. So, again, I suggest the placement of signs. They should be posted at regular intervals and state succingly that the left lane is for emergency vehicles and passing ONLY and nromal travel is NOT permitted. Signs should make clear that drivers are to vacate the left lane as soon as safely possible when not passing. This way, even if UHP continues to fall down on the job of enforcing smooth traffic operation, these drivers are made aware that they are in the wrong. This information will help them to understand why so many drivers are likely flashing high-beams and middle fingers at them and may, if we're lucky, penetrate their massive idiocy to the point that they realize their mistake and correct it, resulting in a better drive for EVERYONE on the road.

I think all agencies invovled with highway operation in Utah could improve a great deal in their demonstration to the public of the importance of SHARING the road and driving in a manner that is conducive to smooth flow of traffic for ALL cars. These are a massive issue in this state, and I genuinely hope to see them improve soon. I would be more than happy to offer more suggestions from the viewpoint of an observant, aware, safe, courteous driver should you desire them. I would be very pleased to see these ideas reach the discourteous people I share the road with so that they might realize their error and correct it. And I'm certainly open to any input you may have as well as far as how I may do my part to improve the driving experience for myself and my fellow drivers.

Thanks very much for your time. I hope you find these comments useful.

[xekushnr]

Not to disregard MoD's post, but I'm drunk. Really drunk. It took me a couple minutes just to properly type all of this. And I think I have mono. YAY

[MinisterofDOOM]

It's cool. Disregard it all you want. I know it's long, so I don't expect anyone to actually read it. I mainly posted it here so I could retrieve it on my home compy where I can spellcheck it before sending.

Ugh, mono. Not fun.

[xekushnr]

I guarantee you I will read it tomorrow. I can also guarantee you that if I tried to read it now that I would either not be able to comprehend it or I would just lose attention all together.

I've never had mono so I dont know what to expect, but apparently you have a really sore throat. I've had a really sore throat for a few days now, and a girl I made out with a few weeks ago told me she had mono, so yeah. It sucks. I've avoided it my entire high school tenure, and now that I'm 22 I might have it. WTF?

[DrifterXRPS13]

Morning all!

[snwbrdr435]

morning faizian

[Dattebayo]

That's great, MoD, but you should understand that double-white lines are not un-crossable. It is only DOUBLE-YELLOW lines that you may not cross. The double-white lines are the soft version of the yellow ones, meaning crossing is allowed, but they are there only to let you know there is some kind of "legal" barrier.

Sorry, but that is a major problem with your letter.

[King Ranzo]

Morning guys. How's everybody?

[Dattebayo]

Check THIS out...

OK, so I am awake, ready to go at the hotel this morning...I get breakfast and am totally stoked to go.

I wait for my Teach to show up and give me a ride to the property we are supposed to install stuff into. I call her at 8:59 (was supposed to meet her @ 9:00) and ask if she's on the way. She tells me shes in the hospital as of last night. She had some bad food or something at her cousin house the night before and was puking blood.

So, this marks the third thing to go wrong with my new job since she was late to pick me up yesterday, lol!

I WONDER WHAT ELSE could go wrong now? Did I happen to mention my last name is Murphy? SOOO typical...

[raremotive]

It's cool. Disregard it all you want. I know it's long, so I don't expect anyone to actually read it. I mainly posted it here so I could retrieve it on my home compy where I can spellcheck it before sending.

Ugh, mono. Not fun.

2 words...

too long

Imagine this. You are busy. You receive this letter that you are not entirely sure it's related to you. It's full of text. Are you likely to read it?