i know..i know..another turbo threadd

[zratedversa1]

lol.... thats what happens when you run on the street with a velocity stack instead of a filter. hahaha..

that was to make it look good at the sema show.all it takes is one rock....then

[zratedversa1]

its not your fault though....the turbo was probably screwed even before you got it..

[silverarrow27]

Yep... i'd be the one... and as much as i'd like to sell everything... it is a lot! of work, and the turbo is blown...

I've done plenty of motor swaps and turbo kit installs. Installing a turbo kit will be cake. Looks sweet and that is one huge velocity stack, but for the proven gains of velocity stacks...I don't blame you.

Curious, what are the specs of the turbo and who makes it? Garrett? HPI? Mitsubishi? KKK? PE? Ball bearing?

[#1Tango]

I made it up to 12lbs of boost and my motor is still fine, no clutch slip, nothing blown up... just a bad turbo..

just figured i'd let all of you know... it is still possible!!!!

how did the car feel w. 12lbs of boost? just wonderin your personal opinion

[biggie]

Still never heard of any injector or engine management upgrades.

And no filter is definately a way to kill a turbo.

[tyler_ofspain]

I've done plenty of motor swaps and turbo kit installs. Installing a turbo kit will be cake. Looks sweet and that is one huge velocity stack, but for the proven gains of velocity stacks...I don't blame you.

Curious, what are the specs of the turbo and who makes it? Garrett? HPI? Mitsubishi? KKK? PE? Ball bearing?

it's a Garrett GT27 ball bearing...

how did the car feel w. 12lbs of boost? just wonderin your personal opinion

It was rediculous! When that turbo finely spooled it was soooo much fun... Should've seen the looks on peoples faces when it hit boost... Priceless!

Still never heard of any injector or engine management upgrades.

And no filter is definately a way to kill a turbo.

I know i wish i would've cut that velocity stack off before i installed the kit... but the way it was welded on it would've been a huge pain

[biggie]

Still never heard of any injector or engine management upgrades.

???

[tyler_ofspain]

Still never heard of any injector or engine management upgrades.

I haven't heard of anything either but it didn't seem to be a problem, even running too much boost it wasn't running too lean

[biggie]

I haven't heard of anything either but it didn't seem to be a problem, even running too much boost it wasn't running too lean

ABSOLUTELY can not see how that is possible. 12psi would have to require upgraded fuel and some sort of management.

[tyler_ofspain]

ABSOLUTELY can not see how that is possible. 12psi would have to require upgraded fuel and some sort of management.

Trust me, I wouldn't believe it either... but it worked, maybe my versa is just magic

[Joe]

Trust me, I wouldn't believe it either... but it worked, maybe my versa is just magic

versa magic does not defeat then laws of PHYSICS.

if you do not have any kind of engine management on there YOU ARE DRIVING A TIME BOMB.

and put a damn air filter on that turbo.

[nametakennow]

Did you have a wideband on there, or are you saying it worked just by the fact that your engine is still running? You can have detonation and even significant damage before anything catastrophic happens.

[tyler_ofspain]

Did you have a wideband on there, or are you saying it worked just by the fact that your engine is still running? You can have detonation and even significant damage before anything catastrophic happens.

i had the aem wideband

[tyler_ofspain]

versa magic does not defeat then laws of PHYSICS.

if you do not have any kind of engine management on there YOU ARE DRIVING A TIME BOMB.

and put a damn air filter on that turbo.

please, before you start posting stuff like that on this thread you should actually read through it!!!!!It's no longer turbo'd, and i ran it that high for maybe 20 minutes... i don't want anyone trying to be an a$$hole on this thread so read the thread before this thread goes downhill

[silverarrow27]

it's a Garrett GT27 ball bearing...

It was rediculous! When that turbo finely spooled it was soooo much fun... Should've seen the looks on peoples faces when it hit boost... Priceless!

I know i wish i would've cut that velocity stack off before i installed the kit... but the way it was welded on it would've been a huge pain

I was just on Garrett's site, nothing that shows a GT27 unless you mean a GT28?

[tyler_ofspain]

I was just on Garrett's site, nothing that shows a GT27 unless you mean a GT28?

Yea just checked, it is the GT28RS aka "disco potato"

[silverarrow27]

Nice, Big T28. Capable of 320-350 whp with supporting mods.

[themadscientist]

Agreed. Slapping a turbo on a 1.8 liter engine without any other modifications whatsoever is about the stupidest thing you can do.

Not always.

[nametakennow]

And what did your AEM wideband read as you ran through the rev range?

[tyler_ofspain]

And what did your AEM wideband read as you ran through the rev range?

the leanest it ran at full boost was 14.4 at about 5200rpm

[KimberKenobi]

Trust me, I wouldn't believe it either... but it worked, maybe my versa is just magic

and that, my friends, is a priceless statement.;oD

[dandaman]

Not always.

I doubt many people in this versa forum know what that engine is.... You are correct though.

[KimberKenobi]

Not always. {photo helpful to your cause.}

awww... and here you redeem yourself.;o*

[silverarrow27]

Not able to see, but:

T2 turbo ------> T25

Daily driven everyday and often abused.

[blindsnyper]

Not always.

I doubt many people in this versa forum know what that engine is.... You are correct though.

you mean the ca18det??

[the converted]

the leanest it ran at full boost was 14.4 at about 5200rpm

Somehow 14.4 at 12 psi just doesn't seem, ummm, safe.

[themadscientist]

awww... and here you redeem yourself.;o*

I just wanted to jerk his chain a bit. He does have a point though, there is more to it then bolting a turbo on it. It is just an engine like any other but it is a higher compression than the average turbo motor, I assume at least 9.0:1? That would make the safe boost lower and an intercooler a necessity. Fuel and timing need to be addressed as well, more fuel less timing. Look at the Greddy kit for the S2000 as an example of a complete kit.



Most of their kits don't have an intercooler but in this day and age there is no excuse for that. If somebody wants to really step up and make a complete kit I would suggest it needs the following parts.

Manifold, iron is better for longevity, stainless is pretty but on an application like this serious overkill and not worth the potential cracking issues.

Turbo, a nice actuated T2, something with a a fat map for streetability and about a 250hp peak. The motor would need some internals to go higher, no point in grabbing a bigger screw.

Frontpipe that goes back to mate to the catalytic. There should also be a turbo exhaust available as an upgrade and sold seperately if people have to buy it later. The stock exhaust will be a serious restriction and needs to be ditched.

Larger injectors and a piggyback to adjust timing and fuel or a remapped ECU. The Versa is probably a returnless fuel system but if it is not then a rising rate FPR should be included.

A quality front mount intercooler and all brackets, hoses and piping with a BOV.

All the oil delivery and drain lines and fittings and detailed instructions that HIGHLY SUGGEST pulling the oil pan to do your drain fitting. i have seen writeups on Miata kits that suggest just drilling a hole in the pan on the car. Metal shavings in oil pan is bad, do it right or don't do it.

The Versa could be boosted, things will break, that's how it goes. When they break you inprove the suspect parts and move on, no biggie. The aftermarket is full of classy companies with a proven track record who could do it if they think there is a market, make your voices heard and maybe a kit will be made.

[nametakennow]

Yeah, a 14.4 is not at all safe. SR20DE+T guys top out in the low 12's, and that's particularly aggressive. I had mine at 11.5.

Just because there wasn't instant catastrophic failure doesn't mean it wouldn't ever happen. At 14.4, I can almost guarantee that it would.

[themadscientist]

That plastic intake concerns me a little bit but it's likely safe to some serious pressure. I wonder about the way is seals to the head, o-ring or standard flat gasket? Are the injectors weird or standard top-feed?

[Red Devil]

I doubt many people in this versa forum know what that engine is.... You are correct though.

What, the CA18? Damn near bulletproof lil I-4.