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Information on the naturally-aspirated KA24E and KA24DE engines.
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hahahaha!! k y not put a 572 in. of course u can get more cubic but its hella expensive as well and more work.


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Hey WD- I agree with you on the swap. Nothin says goin fast like losing torque! Are there any REAL advantages on a DE compared to a E? I've searched, just haven't found my answer, and I haven't seen a big difference in the numbers I've seen keeping mods close. Thanks.

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From what i've seen the E will make about 15-20 less hp and about 10-15 more lb-ft of torque than the DE running the same amount of boost. If you have the E i'd keep it rather than swap for the DE.

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s13ofdoom wrote:my 2 cents are if u got an older KA u dont want to throw a turbo on and with a swap ur gonna get more reliablity trans, motor ect
more reliable?

i don't care if the sr is shipped from japan and bought through the most reputable importer, it's still a junkyard engine. your taking the same chances you would if you were to swap in a lower mileage ka.

the only thing importers do to an sr is make sure the compression is good, all the parts are are there, and clean it to make it presentable. you get a warranty...that lasts until you start it up. if your your turbo blows, something breaks, or engine dies a week later, you're **** outta luck.

please, let's not get into reliability of these engines.

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I'd have to say that the DOHC head will flow better when ported. You can also tune the cams, which is a must when you get into longer duration cams. But if your looking for a good soild 350WHP, a E model will do just fine. So install a nice turbo kit, boost it up and have fun. If it blows, there's another E model in the nearest junkyard for a couple hundred.

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rant rave shief is teh n00b.

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Wow toki your a genious!! Anyway, WD I was thinking more around the 400-450hp levels with the E and still be streetable, depending on the weather. Sam's numbers are about the same I've seen, so I don't see any need for a swap. Only issue I see is the single cam, being it would be easier to tune the dual and get a few more hp with it and a few with the head, even if both were ported. i.e. about 15-20 more hp for dual.

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Like I said before, the E will work. In fact I'd like to see more high hp E models rolling around.

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toki wrote:rant rave shief is teh n00b.
Ahh another know it all. Sorry bro, not a noob just gathering as much info as I can. Info makes people smarter. I guess you skipped that step. Get smore useless mods done to your car, list them, and go away. :oface

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of course u can get a junker SR. all i am saying is dont put a turbo on an OLD KA!!!!!!!!

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s13ofdoom wrote:of course u can get a junker SR. all i am saying is dont put a turbo on an OLD KA!!!!!!!!
Then why turbo an old SR? The motors are the same age..unless you get a blacktop. At least w/ the KA you know if it runs well b4 you try to get power out of it.

But then again, a swap is more reliable accoring to you.

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whats up researched for a long time just started posting

ive read some posts saying the botom end of the ka needs to be balanced to handle higher redline ive also heard redline is determined by cams and valvetrain which is correct?

i have read about these engines for over a year and a half and im still having probllems choosing which one i want this thread has helped me a bit with my decision i think ill get a de rebuild it and turbo

im willing to spend some green for the ponnies but i dont want 300 whp all day what kind of changes could you make with a boost controller? (never owned a turbo)

also i think somone said once that the sr transmission gears are slimmer so they didnt think it would handle the higher torque?

and one good thing i can think of with an sr or ca is the weight distribution its perfect 50/50 with ka its like 52/48 i guess thats for the track people

well i gotta say thanks for the info i probably would have put a 350 in my s-13 if it werent for this forum and all its help its given me during my researchkeep up the good work

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erm shief, obviously you can't take a joke. BTW - i purchased the car with all these nice usless mods like better suspension and exhaust, and for a pretty good price at that. Quit talking out of your butt because i decided to delete a post that you had the fortune of reading. All of this is "bench racing" or whatever you want to call it to begin with, but believe me, i'm 10 times the bench racer you will EVAR be. I have 2 of the big ones.

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I believe you are a better bench racer (since I'm not, and wasn't). But you won't have 2 of the big ones by tonight, so I win.

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I think the only real advantages to the Sr would be the Aluminum would dissapate heat better, the higher RPMs and the lighter weight.

But in that, it depends alot on preferences. Are you shaving all the possible weight you can? Do you care more for torque, or do you want an engine that revs to 7500-8k?

The KA is gonna eat the SR off the line and depending on what type of racing you do, maybe throughout the entire power band.

All in all tho, I still wouldn't mind doing an SR swap. But that's just me and my love for RPM's :D


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