well
the story starts when i asked jon for help on the boards here he offered his phone number so i can call him for help
i did he seemed like he knows RB`s well
anyhow he walked me through alot of my problems till i hit a dead end i kind got sick of my car he offered to make it work for me for a little charge
$25 an hour with max charge of $400
to make car run perfect install front mount pipes ( custom pipes )
make my turbo elbow clear steering rack ( needed some welding )
figure out why my car wont idle on its own and keeps shutting off and fix it
HE SAID I AM HERE TO MAKE THINGS HAPPEN
install front sway bar ( Since he have a welder i thought he will custom a longer end links )
install gauge cluster ( never mentioned i need the plug off the R-32 harness )
look at the shifter see if it fits the way it should
install my front bumper after fitting the front mount i supplied
install avc-r afc and clean up the wiring ( as in loom it and take it out the way)
ok ?
alright i get my car 350 miles up north NY to jon powell on wednesday the 23rd for him to start workin gon it
he seemed like a nice like i always thought was glad to fimaly meet him in person
so i dropped my car gave him the list of things to do via email the next day or two
he got it and said should be fine not a big deal ( he tends to make every thing seem so easy to him )
well we may see
i talk to him during the week day to day on im car is getting there **** is being installed i installed the AFC AVC-R etc etc
looked at the wiring maf wires are not right need to wire ur reverse lights and temp sensor
cool right
haha yeah ok
i am supposed to pick my car up on the 7th since he is almost done with it before the 4th july weekend
well i get a call from jon on the 6th
man i cant get ur car to run right there is some thing i cant figure out
ok i dont mind the guy was up front and let me know a day before i go pick up my car
now on the phone i was telling him wut to do with the car to try and stablize idle
he had said the car drove fine a day before and it was great :rolleyes
anyway
i get there on the 7th as planned got there at 12:30 like i said i will be
alright ?
no i get in the shop thinking the car is ready to go just idle wont stablize right ?
haha its FAR from being ready
no front bumper / no intercooler / no wiring been cleaned ecu is sticking is on the pass floor / afc / avc-r are installed ( hooked and laying on the floor next to the ecu )
my multi checker that was wired up in japan on the harness and was the only running fine part on my car now does not read
wires under the hood are no where to be cleaned up
i have pics jon so dont worry i will get it up very soon
thanks u for welding my turbo elbow but i would think an elbow on a turbo need to be bloted back on ? it have one nut tigh and the other two are loose like u hooked them on with hand and forgot to tighten them
so anyway i test drive the car oh man was i really pissed
the car drives like a piece **** ( jon have said its niiice to drive ) it shuts off between shifts if u let go gas
so i get back he try to get the multi checker to work back he touchs some of the loose wires he left all over my car and it works here see it works says jon ok
reverse light ? nope not even that work
temp gauge oh yeah that works thanks jon
so i load up my car and at this point i almost wanted to leave with out paying a penny for the mess that was left in my car
well i ask him do i owe u any money jon he had the guts to say yeah some thing not the whole thing
i offered him half of wut we planned on he takes it and seem very upset / pissed i ask him is its ok he was not happy wanted more for wut i dont get is ? for not cleaning my wiring ? for not even trying to install my sway bar ?
oh wait maybe for tightening my turbo elbow
people may seem like they know stuff on the net but in real life they no crap
IMO jon powell is a no man to be trusted with a motor swap at least i wouldnt
sorry jon but u let me down very bad
do be so mad cuz u got $250 for simply for storing my car in ur place 2 weeks
oh u forgot an aligator connector in my car was hooked to a blue wire off the ka dash harness to no where is that the reverse light jon ?
ps : pics will be coming soon
i hate to do this but i have to sorry powell
Email me your address and I will send every penny back. I told you that I was fine with half, I told you that I would take whatever you thought was fair, didnt I?
1 : get it running ? wiring timing ? mafs ? some thing 2 : turbo elbow welds ( so i can actualy drive it 3 : front mount pipes so i can have a bigger than stock intercooler 4 : shifter 5 : gauge cluster 6 : sway bar 7 : afc 8 : avcr 9 : front bumper 10 : have fun driving it
This was the list that you sent to me, right?
#1 is done right, its runs...maybe it doesnt idle, but can you tell me what the AM ECU you have that was tuned by ****pit is looking for, or if by wiring the MAF and O2 sensor wrong that you definately didnt burn it out?
#2, done...right? Welded up the hole that you put in it and got it to clear the steering, right?
#3, I told you that I was depending on soimeone else up front, right? I told you that I might have to do this to you, right?
#4, You had zero fluid in the transmission, that was why it felt like crap, did I ask for one penny to reimburse the 1/2 gallon of 90 weight I threw in there?
#5, I told you up front that I needed the cable and the plugs for the cluster, you were going to mail them...did you?
#6, wont fit...I told you your options, you chose to have me do none of them, remember? Taking a large stud and welding a washer to either end or removing the motor and slotting the holes, OR purchasing a mount kit, OR denting the oil pan...you chose to have me do none of those.
#7, done
#8, done (even though you never left me the boost sensor and your turbo has no wastegate, making the install of the boost controller pointless, but you knew that, right?
#9, you told me not to do it, remember that? Since that tiny little starion intercooler wasnt installed you said to leave it off.
#10, I drove it once, told you what I thought, that was it...you were more interested in showing off your Tein suspension then listening to me.
Now lets talk about all the free stuff I did, that you are forgetting, like cleaning up all you mess...
When I unwrapped some of your wires, the solder came off with the tape...that is good?
What about the mess you made of the alternator wiring?
What about the fact that you couldnt seem to get it to start with the key?
What about the Z32 MAf and 02 saensor wired all wrong? You had the signal wire from the MAF going to ground and the power wire going to one of the ground on the MAF...
What about the loose steering lines?
What about the fact that when your car got to me it had only one bolt in the exhaust?
What about the fans that werent wired up?
What about the throttle cable that was all crooked and binding up...I made a bracket for it, right?
email me your address, you little ungrateful *****, and I will send every penny you gave me back, minus the materials and oil that I had to get, lets say $30 and you can forget that you ever heard my name.
When did you ask me to clean up your mess? I thought that I was just supposed to make it run...then I offered alot more......all in all I spent about 35 hours fixing your $hitty install to the point that it is, and you offer me $200 and ask if I would hate you forever...You paid me like some immigrant $hit worker and I told you it was fine, didnt I tell you that I was more concerned with making you happy?
That ECU is tuned for some mystery settings and only ****pit knows them...I asked you more tahn once to get those settings from them for me, but you never got off your *** to get them.
I guess this is a good reason that people shouldnt try to do favors...
Remember when this all started, I toldyou that I would give you a good price on my work, but in return you had to get me a good price on an engine clip when the time came for me to order them?
You told me $3500 for a FWD SR20DET clip and $5000 for an R32 GTR clip....I can get the same prices anywhere from anyone else all day long, is that how you take care of me?
You just expected WAY more than you asked of me, and when I asked you to get the additional info/items I needed to finish the work, you couldnt even do that.
Like I said, email me your address and I will send back every penny, today....then you can forget you ever heard of me.[email protected]
1 : get it running ? wiring timing ? mafs ? some thing 2 : turbo elbow welds ( so i can actualy drive it 3 : front mount pipes so i can have a bigger than stock intercooler 4 : shifter 5 : gauge cluster 6 : sway bar 7 : afc 8 : avcr 9 : front bumper 10 : have fun driving it
This was the list that you sent to me, right?
#1 is done right, its runs...maybe it doesnt idle, but can you tell me what the AM ECU you have that was tuned by ****pit is looking for, or if by wiring the MAF and O2 sensor wrong that you definately didnt burn it out?
#2, done...right? Welded up the hole that you put in it and got it to clear the steering, right?
#3, I told you that I was depending on soimeone else up front, right? I told you that I might have to do this to you, right?
#4, You had zero fluid in the transmission, that was why it felt like crap, did I ask for one penny to reimburse the 1/2 gallon of 90 weight I threw in there?
#5, I told you up front that I needed the cable and the plugs for the cluster, you were going to mail them...did you?
#6, wont fit...I told you your options, you chose to have me do none of them, remember? Taking a large stud and welding a washer to either end or removing the motor and slotting the holes, OR purchasing a mount kit, OR denting the oil pan...you chose to have me do none of those.
#7, done
#8, done (even though you never left me the boost sensor and your turbo has no wastegate, making the install of the boost controller pointless, but you knew that, right?
#9, you told me not to do it, remember that? Since that tiny little starion intercooler wasnt installed you said to leave it off.
#10, I drove it once, told you what I thought, that was it...you were more interested in showing off your Tein suspension then listening to me.
Now lets talk about all the free stuff I did, that you are forgetting, like cleaning up all you mess...
When I unwrapped some of your wires, the solder came off with the tape...that is good?
What about the mess you made of the alternator wiring?
What about the fact that you couldnt seem to get it to start with the key?
What about the Z32 MAf and 02 saensor wired all wrong? You had the signal wire from the MAF going to ground and the power wire going to one of the ground on the MAF...
What about the loose steering lines?
What about the fact that when your car got to me it had only one bolt in the exhaust?
What about the fans that werent wired up?
What about the throttle cable that was all crooked and binding up...I made a bracket for it, right?
email me your address, you little ungrateful *****, and I will send every penny you gave me back, minus the materials and oil that I had to get, lets say $30 and you can forget that you ever heard my name.
When did you ask me to clean up your mess? I thought that I was just supposed to make it run...then I offered alot more......all in all I spent about 35 hours fixing your $hitty install to the point that it is, and you offer me $200 and ask if I would hate you forever...You paid me like some immigrant $hit worker and I told you it was fine, didnt I tell you that I was more concerned with making you happy?
That ECU is tuned for some mystery settings and only ****pit knows them...I asked you more tahn once to get those settings from them for me, but you never got off your *** to get them.
I guess this is a good reason that people shouldnt try to do favors...
Remember when this all started, I toldyou that I would give you a good price on my work, but in return you had to get me a good price on an engine clip when the time came for me to order them?
You told me $3500 for a FWD SR20DET clip and $5000 for an R32 GTR clip....I can get the same prices anywhere from anyone else all day long, is that how you take care of me?
You just expected WAY more than you asked of me, and when I asked you to get the additional info/items I needed to finish the work, you couldnt even do that.
Like I said, email me your address and I will send back every penny, today....then you can forget you ever heard of me.[email protected]
I changed my mind, you are getting nothing back from me...maybe I couldnt finsih the job, but you couldnt get the resources I asked for.
If any of you are interested in getting references on my credibility from someone who REALLY knows whats going on, ask around...this one guy, who couldnt help himself, isnt gonna tarnish my name, or irritate me any more.
Let this be a lesson to everyone about helping someone out.
This piece of crap, "drift car" is a pathetic excuse for a 240SX...
I say that everyone ask all those I helped WITHOUT EVEN SEEING the car about my skills...Anyone wanna post about the good I've done? Or just everyone want to believe this piece of craps one bad experience?
Yeah, I couldnt give him what he expected, and yeah I didnt take all the money I expected...
He couldnt give me the resources I needed to accomidate him.
Come on people, lets hear how I am not trustworthy!
All those people I sent parts to at little or no charge, all the people I helped with wiring, now is the time to repay my favor, just post EXACTLY what I did for you!
Thanks!
If any of you are interested in getting references on my credibility from someone who REALLY knows whats going on, ask around...this one guy, who couldnt help himself, isnt gonna tarnish my name, or irritate me any more.
Let this be a lesson to everyone about helping someone out.
This piece of crap, "drift car" is a pathetic excuse for a 240SX...
I say that everyone ask all those I helped WITHOUT EVEN SEEING the car about my skills...Anyone wanna post about the good I've done? Or just everyone want to believe this piece of craps one bad experience?
Yeah, I couldnt give him what he expected, and yeah I didnt take all the money I expected...
He couldnt give me the resources I needed to accomidate him.
Come on people, lets hear how I am not trustworthy!
All those people I sent parts to at little or no charge, all the people I helped with wiring, now is the time to repay my favor, just post EXACTLY what I did for you!
Thanks!
being as smart mouth wont get u no where jon
if u an installer and do swaps as u may say
the least when u finish up a swap is cleaning ur mess
wiring mess bolts have to be tightened to the specs
thats if u an installer
but if u work on ur own car like my self u do wut ever u wanna do in the end i dont get paid for it
paypal me my money if u really wanna do that i am sure its just talk u wont pay nothing back its ok consider it a tip from me [email protected]
oh if u had asked me over the phone after u seen my car to pay u more and u finish it all up i may have thought about it
but no u leave it as u left it and think i ur mind oh he only paying $400 he does not get this he does not get that
guess wut every one on the boards will know how u work
if u an installer and do swaps as u may say
the least when u finish up a swap is cleaning ur mess
wiring mess bolts have to be tightened to the specs
thats if u an installer
but if u work on ur own car like my self u do wut ever u wanna do in the end i dont get paid for it
paypal me my money if u really wanna do that i am sure its just talk u wont pay nothing back its ok consider it a tip from me [email protected]
oh if u had asked me over the phone after u seen my car to pay u more and u finish it all up i may have thought about it
but no u leave it as u left it and think i ur mind oh he only paying $400 he does not get this he does not get that
guess wut every one on the boards will know how u work
bring it on up i am here to make things happen mo
i will make it run like it should
ok jon think how much u wanna charge me and let me know to finish it all up
am i right or wrong ?
if u had asked me for a grand i coule have paid it if the job was done
i wasnt asking for my money back i wanted people to know how u do ur work thats all
have a great life
i will make it run like it should
ok jon think how much u wanna charge me and let me know to finish it all up
am i right or wrong ?
if u had asked me for a grand i coule have paid it if the job was done
i wasnt asking for my money back i wanted people to know how u do ur work thats all
have a great life
yeah.. jon isn't trustworthy at all.. infact, he just sucks.. this one time, he said he was going to send me a waterpump.. yeah, he freaking did! wtf is up with that. why would he do that? i don't know..
regardless, jon is a good friend of mine and CAN be trusted.. i haven't even paid him back for shipping on that item he sent yet because i'm lazy.. but it will get there today. the guy practically helped me get my car started. got me on the right track with wiring, helped me out.. he's never even done a s14 in person yet my car runs fine.. calling him at random times and annoying the hell out of him, lmfao.
you gave him $200? wtf kinda crap is that.. wiring alone the guy charges too little in my opinion.. wiring takes a lot longer than you think.. especially with everything that has to be done.. gauge cluster? wtf do you think you wouldn't have to give him the plugs? he can magically place the wires in place and they just hold? if he asked for them you should have got them, not cried about it. he was there to get your car to run, not finish it for you.. if you wanted it finished, why didn't you contact one of the many companies that do that and charge a few grand? don't expect a lot for little, you're an ungrateful bastard.
regardless, jon is a good friend of mine and CAN be trusted.. i haven't even paid him back for shipping on that item he sent yet because i'm lazy.. but it will get there today. the guy practically helped me get my car started. got me on the right track with wiring, helped me out.. he's never even done a s14 in person yet my car runs fine.. calling him at random times and annoying the hell out of him, lmfao.
you gave him $200? wtf kinda crap is that.. wiring alone the guy charges too little in my opinion.. wiring takes a lot longer than you think.. especially with everything that has to be done.. gauge cluster? wtf do you think you wouldn't have to give him the plugs? he can magically place the wires in place and they just hold? if he asked for them you should have got them, not cried about it. he was there to get your car to run, not finish it for you.. if you wanted it finished, why didn't you contact one of the many companies that do that and charge a few grand? don't expect a lot for little, you're an ungrateful bastard.
dawhiz wrote:yeah.. jon isn't trustworthy at all.. infact, he just sucks.. this one time, he said he was going to send me a waterpump.. yeah, he freaking did! wtf is up with that. why would he do that? i don't know..
regardless, jon is a good friend of mine and CAN be trusted.. i haven't even paid him back for shipping on that item he sent yet because i'm lazy.. but it will get there today. the guy practically helped me get my car started. got me on the right track with wiring, helped me out.. he's never even done a s14 in person yet my car runs fine.. calling him at random times and annoying the hell out of him, lmfao.
you gave him $200? wtf kinda crap is that.. wiring alone the guy charges too little in my opinion.. wiring takes a lot longer than you think.. especially with everything that has to be done.. gauge cluster? wtf do you think you wouldn't have to give him the plugs? he can magically place the wires in place and they just hold? if he asked for them you should have got them, not cried about it. he was there to get your car to run, not finish it for you.. if you wanted it finished, why didn't you contact one of the many companies that do that and charge a few grand? don't expect a lot for little, you're an ungrateful bastard.
i didnt tell him i will pay u $400 he named his price to wut he will get done
he is trustworthy and all if i felt he is not for a second i wont leave my car up at his place for a minute
wut bothered me is why did he waist my time and money for something i already know ?
my car was running when it got to his place
yes it turned on and yes it ran and shuts off on its own
just like it does not
and i will repeat that
if jon powell could have asked for a grand to finish up my install completely i would have paid it
so dont blame me on a price u named brother
u didnt tell me u pay $400 for wut i will do and oh i will leave ur wires sticking out at the ecu and i will make ur multi checker not read any more and i will connect aligator clamps and i wont tape up wires and all
just dont claim u a pro installer when u not any better than any one that does it in the backyard like me and most of us here
that is the point
again enjoy the $250 i gave u its a tip from to for all the time u spent on the phone with me trying to help
thanks jon
jp did my rb25det install for me, and it was awesome, all wiring, cosmetics, everything, looks oem. jp went above and beyond for my swap, doing many manys small things for me like like replace my missing MAF, acquiring me a set of front Z32 brakes for free since my clip was missing them, rebuilding my broken turbo for free, doing all welding for free, painting my valve cover an metallic blue for free,even getting my skyline lsd to work perfectly, charging me nothing xtra. while doing my swap he gave me daily updates, telling me all progress and obstacles he ran into. to this day i have had no problem with my swap, we talk daily about cars and he is always askin how my beast is running, and when ever i had questions he is always there for me. when ever he needed small parts he sourced them for me for free, and if need be, he got them for me at a discounted price. He turned an automatic s13 which was DOA when i gave it to him, and turned it into the beast u see in the pics, he even fixxed the dents and primed the showing sheetmetal so my car is now one color.Hope fully these two can resolve their differances, i know both of you guys personally and hate to see to people espically 240sx enthuasist, sour towards each other.
yeah he didn't have to help your *** at all.. why do you think he charged so little? because he was trying to HELP you. you think my wires are cleaned up? i only cleaned up whats done.. ecu is on the floor, wiring everywhere.. big mess, its because its UNFINISHED. you don't clean up whats not done.. and if you think you're car was running right and you did the MAF, O2, etc wrong.. you're dead wrong.. be happy with what you got, i bet you would have been charged that much just for someone to weld the stuff alone. don't be an ***.
I asked you what you wanted done....where in that list was the line "completely finish my install and fix all my mistakes"?
You got what you asked for, and then some...you car WOULDNT run when I got it and you know that. you even gave me a spare starter because you were constantly jumping it with a screwdriver....
Once again, if you gave me all the resources to complete the job, instead of setting me up for failure, I could have done more.
You seem to have forgotten the time I stayed up until 1AM so you could drop off your car when I had to be up at 6 the next day for work, right?
You got what you asked for, and then some...you car WOULDNT run when I got it and you know that. you even gave me a spare starter because you were constantly jumping it with a screwdriver....
Once again, if you gave me all the resources to complete the job, instead of setting me up for failure, I could have done more.
You seem to have forgotten the time I stayed up until 1AM so you could drop off your car when I had to be up at 6 the next day for work, right?
blk90s13.... first thing... It seems to me like you've got a communication problem (have you ever heard of using paragraphs?). That alone can be responsible for more problems that any bad business can generate.
You screwed up your car, could not finish it, then asked someone else to give you a hand. At $25/hour, no less. Try to get a shop, any shop, to fix your problems for only $25/hour!
You insisted on going to pick up the car before it was finished. And now you want to tell everyone how this or that was not completed. So Jon gave you an estimate of the time it would take -- based on your phone description of what was actually wrong with it. Neither Jon's estimate of time nor your estimate of what was wrong were correct. Hey, that's life. That's why it's called an ESTIMATE.
I don't know you and I don't know Jon. And I did not read Jon's replies to your epistle. But I can tell from your comments alone that your gripes are totally unreasonable.
You screwed up your car, could not finish it, then asked someone else to give you a hand. At $25/hour, no less. Try to get a shop, any shop, to fix your problems for only $25/hour!
You insisted on going to pick up the car before it was finished. And now you want to tell everyone how this or that was not completed. So Jon gave you an estimate of the time it would take -- based on your phone description of what was actually wrong with it. Neither Jon's estimate of time nor your estimate of what was wrong were correct. Hey, that's life. That's why it's called an ESTIMATE.
I don't know you and I don't know Jon. And I did not read Jon's replies to your epistle. But I can tell from your comments alone that your gripes are totally unreasonable.
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I HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMMENT ON THIS TOPIC BUT I DO HAVE ONE THING TO SAY.....
JON POWELL IS A GREAT GUY, HE IS VERY KNOWLEDGABLE AT EVERYTHING HE COMMENTS ON. JON HAS DELT WITH MY BULL**** AND PUT UP WITH QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM ME WHEN MOST PEOPLE WOULD HAVE WRITTEN ME OFF.
I ALSO KNOW THAT HE IS A VERY BUSY GUY AND MAYBE HIS TIME ESTIMATE WAS POORLY JUDGED, WHO KNOWS..... BUT SLANDEROUS ATTACKS WONT GET YOU ANYWHERE, AND I FOUND THAT OUT (MY ATTACKS ON CAMERON). MAYBE IF YOU WOULD CALL HIM AND WORK WITH HIM MAYBE HE CAN CORRECT THE SITUATION AND MAYBE AT THIS POINT HE MIGHT NOT.
EITHER WAY GOOD LUCK WITH GETTING EVERYTHING SQUARED AWAY AND JON THATS ONE NICE SWAP....
JON POWELL IS A GREAT GUY, HE IS VERY KNOWLEDGABLE AT EVERYTHING HE COMMENTS ON. JON HAS DELT WITH MY BULL**** AND PUT UP WITH QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS FROM ME WHEN MOST PEOPLE WOULD HAVE WRITTEN ME OFF.
I ALSO KNOW THAT HE IS A VERY BUSY GUY AND MAYBE HIS TIME ESTIMATE WAS POORLY JUDGED, WHO KNOWS..... BUT SLANDEROUS ATTACKS WONT GET YOU ANYWHERE, AND I FOUND THAT OUT (MY ATTACKS ON CAMERON). MAYBE IF YOU WOULD CALL HIM AND WORK WITH HIM MAYBE HE CAN CORRECT THE SITUATION AND MAYBE AT THIS POINT HE MIGHT NOT.
EITHER WAY GOOD LUCK WITH GETTING EVERYTHING SQUARED AWAY AND JON THATS ONE NICE SWAP....
I didnt insist on picking up my car before it was done i asked if its possible to be done before the 17th
he said by the 9th most likely am i right or wrong jon ?
then a day before the pickup day he lets me know he cant do anything with my car
did u ask me over the phone to find out from ****pit about the ecu tune ?
did u say leave it maybe i can figure some thing out but i will charge u more money ?
no u rather get rid of it cuz u failed to finish it
hope u learned a lesson jon u cant make things happen u too confident when u dont even know wut u doing
good job putting the turbo elbow back with one nut
$25/hr is the price he asked for i didnt name any hourly rates
correct me if i am wrong jon
he said by the 9th most likely am i right or wrong jon ?
then a day before the pickup day he lets me know he cant do anything with my car
did u ask me over the phone to find out from ****pit about the ecu tune ?
did u say leave it maybe i can figure some thing out but i will charge u more money ?
no u rather get rid of it cuz u failed to finish it
hope u learned a lesson jon u cant make things happen u too confident when u dont even know wut u doing
good job putting the turbo elbow back with one nut
$25/hr is the price he asked for i didnt name any hourly rates
correct me if i am wrong jon
you are right, the rate of $25/hour was in exchange for you taking care of me when it came time to buy a clip....
You take care of me with a price of $5000 for a GTR clip, when I can get it from anywhere for the same price?
Is that fair?
Good job remembering all the free stuff I did.
Good job getting me the plugs for the cluster, or the specs from ****pit....I told you on the phone, that I got it to idle...when you came and we started the car, it idled....I never took it for a ride a second time, all I did was drive it around to the front of the hsop so I could use the lift.
Good job asking me to install a boost controller on a car where there is no wastegate.
Good job with wiring up the O2 and the MAF wrong, even after you redid the wiring 3 times....
Good job running the wrong wire tot he starter, even after redoing the wiring twice.
You got exactly what you paid for, in fact you got even more. I dont feel bad one biut...I did at first but then I regained my senses. You had unrealistic expectations of what you wanted from me and failed to properly communicate that I was to complete your crappy install.
I am sorry that you are not happy, I truly am, but when we were face to face, you didnt do anything but smile. You didnt have anything bad to say when in my presence, but as soon as you get home, instead of calling me and asking if we could work something out, you go online and start saying how I am untrustworthy.
You have HUGE internet balls, but no communication skills in person. When you left, I was under the impression that you were satisfied with what I HAD accomplished, instead of faulting me for your lack of follow through.
YOU set me up for failure here, YOU had a custom tuned ECU from c o c k pit and YOU couldnt get the specs for it. YOU couldnt get the steering to clear the turbo elbow, so YOU ground through it. YOU couldnt get the car to start with the key, YOU couldnt do all this stuff and when it came time for you to get aprice on the clips for me, YOU couldnt get me a deal, but I didnt complain...I was just going to do this job for you and purchase a clip from somewhere else.
You take care of me with a price of $5000 for a GTR clip, when I can get it from anywhere for the same price?
Is that fair?
Good job remembering all the free stuff I did.
Good job getting me the plugs for the cluster, or the specs from ****pit....I told you on the phone, that I got it to idle...when you came and we started the car, it idled....I never took it for a ride a second time, all I did was drive it around to the front of the hsop so I could use the lift.
Good job asking me to install a boost controller on a car where there is no wastegate.
Good job with wiring up the O2 and the MAF wrong, even after you redid the wiring 3 times....
Good job running the wrong wire tot he starter, even after redoing the wiring twice.
You got exactly what you paid for, in fact you got even more. I dont feel bad one biut...I did at first but then I regained my senses. You had unrealistic expectations of what you wanted from me and failed to properly communicate that I was to complete your crappy install.
I am sorry that you are not happy, I truly am, but when we were face to face, you didnt do anything but smile. You didnt have anything bad to say when in my presence, but as soon as you get home, instead of calling me and asking if we could work something out, you go online and start saying how I am untrustworthy.
You have HUGE internet balls, but no communication skills in person. When you left, I was under the impression that you were satisfied with what I HAD accomplished, instead of faulting me for your lack of follow through.
YOU set me up for failure here, YOU had a custom tuned ECU from c o c k pit and YOU couldnt get the specs for it. YOU couldnt get the steering to clear the turbo elbow, so YOU ground through it. YOU couldnt get the car to start with the key, YOU couldnt do all this stuff and when it came time for you to get aprice on the clips for me, YOU couldnt get me a deal, but I didnt complain...I was just going to do this job for you and purchase a clip from somewhere else.
dont blame jon
You do not need to blame jon for you being stupid!!! I can tell
that you do not know what you are doing with your car. It
sounds to me like you bought a junky clip that you have no idea what to do with!
Jon has helped me so much with my swap. He has saved me alot
of money also! At first i was going to send my wiring harness to
jon and let him fix it for me ( at a price much lower than
everybody else) but instead he helped me over the phone and
email. i think he is he only person who would be that kind to do
that!! i know i at least called him 10 times every day asking for
help. he walked me step by step! even with me being slow, he
never got mad at me for bothering him. I think he knows just
about every wire on that motor in his head ! i got my car running
in 2 days with his help! it runs damn good too!!! He even offered
to send me parts that i needed!!! free!!! So dont try to discredit
jon!! Now i want to see you find somebody else that will help you
now, since you pissed off the best!! good luck with your piece of ****!!!
that you do not know what you are doing with your car. It
sounds to me like you bought a junky clip that you have no idea what to do with!
Jon has helped me so much with my swap. He has saved me alot
of money also! At first i was going to send my wiring harness to
jon and let him fix it for me ( at a price much lower than
everybody else) but instead he helped me over the phone and
email. i think he is he only person who would be that kind to do
that!! i know i at least called him 10 times every day asking for
help. he walked me step by step! even with me being slow, he
never got mad at me for bothering him. I think he knows just
about every wire on that motor in his head ! i got my car running
in 2 days with his help! it runs damn good too!!! He even offered
to send me parts that i needed!!! free!!! So dont try to discredit
jon!! Now i want to see you find somebody else that will help you
now, since you pissed off the best!! good luck with your piece of ****!!!
blk90s13- you need to be thankful for what he did, but instead you would rather ***** becuase he did not get it running perfectly like you wanted. Kinda hard when you are missing allot of parts that are needed to do that. Having an aftermarket ROM tuned ecu without knowing the read outs is a big problem, but seems like you were to lazy to find out the base map on it. Running ****ty?....that is probley why, and you blame that on Jon?!....wow. He hooked up and fabed up and redid allot of your wiring....how is anyone suppose to get it running right with an unknown ecu and half the **** missing?
Go to any other shop.....you wont be able to get work done for $25/hour...try doubling that, for the same work that Jon did. Think you need to apoligize to Jon and cough up a little more cash.
Go to any other shop.....you wont be able to get work done for $25/hour...try doubling that, for the same work that Jon did. Think you need to apoligize to Jon and cough up a little more cash.
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BLK90S13.... IF YOU WANT EMAIL ME WITH YOUR PROBLEMS AND I'LL SEE IF I CAN HELP YOU FIGURE IT OUT. I'LL DO MY BEST BUT I HAVE VERY LIMITED KNOWLEDGE WITH THE RB25DET.... ONE THING I CAN DO FOR YOU IS SET YOU UP WITH A RB20DET COMPUTER WHICH I KNOW ALOT OF GUYS IN AUSSIE LAND SWITCH TO FOR BETTER BASE CONTROLS AND EASIER TUNE ABILITY WITH THE LACK OF VVT AND ALL.
I WASN'T TAKING ANY CHEAP SHOTS AT YOU I WAS JUST TRYING TO SAY THAT MALICIOUS ATTACKS ON SOMEONE WHO IS PRETTY WELL ESTABLISHED IN THIS COMMUNITY ISN'T GOING TO GET YOU ANYWHERE.
I WASN'T TAKING ANY CHEAP SHOTS AT YOU I WAS JUST TRYING TO SAY THAT MALICIOUS ATTACKS ON SOMEONE WHO IS PRETTY WELL ESTABLISHED IN THIS COMMUNITY ISN'T GOING TO GET YOU ANYWHERE.
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so blk90s13 what is your problem then?
You told him not to put on the front bumper becuase of the FMIC.
Seems like you really messed up on allot of crap that Jon had to redue or fix that you didn't even notice. You had the fans not hooked up or even the water temp gauge wired (could have fried your motor with ease. No fluid in the transmission....your lucky he cought onto that.
You showed up at his house when he was not finished. Of course nothing is going to be cleaned up, the ecu is not figured out at all. It is running and idling like crap becuase you have an unknown ROM tunned ecu. My advice is get a stock RB25 or RB20 ecu and solve all your problems.
For $250 you have it made!He has a wife and daughter to take care of but he put allot of work and effort in your car (35 hours) and you have the nerve to pay him $250 becuase you are not happy becuase it is not running right....which is your fault if any (having that unknown tuned ecu).
You told him not to put on the front bumper becuase of the FMIC.
Seems like you really messed up on allot of crap that Jon had to redue or fix that you didn't even notice. You had the fans not hooked up or even the water temp gauge wired (could have fried your motor with ease. No fluid in the transmission....your lucky he cought onto that.
You showed up at his house when he was not finished. Of course nothing is going to be cleaned up, the ecu is not figured out at all. It is running and idling like crap becuase you have an unknown ROM tunned ecu. My advice is get a stock RB25 or RB20 ecu and solve all your problems.
For $250 you have it made!He has a wife and daughter to take care of but he put allot of work and effort in your car (35 hours) and you have the nerve to pay him $250 becuase you are not happy becuase it is not running right....which is your fault if any (having that unknown tuned ecu).
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