I get a click when I try to start the car.

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RB280SX
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I see. I'm a newb, and am now going to have to search for how to take the starter off.


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pretty straightforward man

remove the big wire, remove the little wire, remove the 2 bolts that hold it to the engine/trans.

pull.

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I have one more stupid question for you. Is there any way to pull it off without jacking up the car? Thanks in advance.

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depends how skinny you are

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I pulled the starter and will be testing it tomorrow (being a college student suxors). Will report back later.

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I tested the starter as a 1994 Nissan 300zx TT and it proved bad. I then asked if they could run it as a NA and the part numbers were the same, so they said that it would fail as well using the NA conditions. Time to rebuild the starter, but just incase I waste more money into the car, is there another potential problem that I should be testing out as well?

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Btw, is there anyone in WA (Tacoma-Seattle area) that is nice enough to let me try my ecu in their car?

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Why test your ECU?? You just found out it's your starter.. so get it fixed or ruibuilt and put it back in, then see what happens.

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Starter is being rebuilt, but I just want to test the ECU out because I had a revving problem prior to this one. This car is a headache, but I can't complain, I made quite a bit of money off of it .

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Man, my car is a POS. I'm stripping EVERYTHING off of it and am going to do what I should have !@$@en done a long time ago. S2000.

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screw s2000's and thier gay electrical steering, i hate that crap.

When something goes wrong with that car its going to be twice if not three times more exspensive and modding those things is retarded becuase honda pulled out the stops getting that thing as efficient as they could so bolt ons give little power for the money. Not to mention buying a honda is the weakest thing ever.

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This car has been giving me some trouble from the start, and so far I've been getting some revenge on it. I've pulled the KSport suspension, rims, 5 lug, and all electronics off of the car so far, but if it can somehow come back to life before I rip the motor out, then I may just accept it back into my life, minus the parts already taken off .
Modified by RB280SX at 11:57 PM 6/28/2006

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I just wanted an S2000 since I was 16 and now that I've saved enough for an AP2, it's just so tempting to ditch this car and get it.

Sorry about the rant of my other post. I just spent 110$ to have the starter replaced, only to find that the problem isn't in the starter. What made me even more upset is that I did the starter rebuild because someone on the board told me to test the starter at Autozone as a 300ZX TT to see if it was any good. I did what was suggested, and it indeed failed. Therefore, I went to a starter rebuilder and had them rebuild my starter. Two hours later, the starter was done and just to verify, I had to scratch the itch that was telling me that it was the starter that had been preventing me from starting the car. I went back to the same Autozone and had them test it as a 300ZX TT, and to my amazement, the starter failed once again.

Now that I was pissed, I went back to the rebuilder and demanded that they tell me what they replaced. They said that it was the solenoid and that they would even prove to me that the starter works fine. Hooking it up to a car battery, the starter came to life... This then makes me wonder if the starter was even bad in the first place...

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Don't give up on this man. We all run into spots where we feel helpless. IMHO I have had wayyyyyy more $hit to gripe about with this motor/swap than anybody except maybe KUILLIN_DRIFTER (he's cursed) and I'm not even close to thinking about trading down for some weak-in-the-poop S2000. Just keep troubleshooting and testing everything according to the FSM. I went through the whole damn engine looking at each sensor and testing it to see if it worked and had continuity to the ECU. I spent over a month with the motor ready to run trying to track down an electrical bug that was eventually traced to my ECU. Keep after it and you'll find it sooner or later.

btw you didn't melt the motor did you?

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ok time for the big boys to jump in. If u get 1 single click and the power shuts off immediately after wards. U have a bad contact to the starter, battery terminals, or a straight up short in the wiring system. Pull off the ecu and check the grounds on the ecu plug and also on the brown plug. 1st thing is to change the 2 small bolts that make the ground contact for the ecu at the forward side of the motor close to the water pump. Need more help call me at 210-837-1670 from the hours of 1100-1430. I have all the schematics available and i'm pretty damn sure i can be of much help. I'm still battling my own demons. But i have been winning.

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KUILLIN_DRIFTER wrote:ok time for the big boys to jump in. If u get 1 single click and the power shuts off immediately after wards. U have a bad contact to the starter, battery terminals, or a straight up short in the wiring system. Pull off the ecu and check the grounds on the ecu plug and also on the brown plug. 1st thing is to change the 2 small bolts that make the ground contact for the ecu at the forward side of the motor close to the water pump. Need more help call me at 210-837-1670 from the hours of 1100-1430. I have all the schematics available and i'm pretty damn sure i can be of much help. I'm still battling my own demons. But i have been winning.
This is the type of advice that I was straining for. This is going to sound dumb, but I pulled off the ecu but how do I check the grounds? Any way that you could get a pic so that I know which ones you're talking about? If it's easier for you talk just explain it to me, I can give you a call but I just got into this whole thing (meaning I'm stupid ). Thanks for the help.

Btw, I put the starter in yesturday and everything is bolted up and on tight. The connection from the wire to the starter is also on right and makes good contact.

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The car only clicks when I push the key to the start position, and all the electronics turn off. As soon as I release the key, the electronics come back on.

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items needed :Mulitimeter and something like safety wire or a piece of wire to probe the harness.

When checking for grounds u need to find a direct piece of metal that is attached to the chasis of the car by screw or rivets. Now next step is to put both the pos and neg leads of the multimeter to the piece of metal and have the meter set to read OHMS. If it read 0.00 or 0.05ohms the that tells u that is a direct contact from point a to point b. Same thing can be done by touching the multimeter leads together.

Now find a wire from the ecu to a sensor and put it from one end to another and find out what ohms u read. if it's < or = to .05ohms then your good if it's greater than the wire is damaged somewhere.

For voltage is the same technique. Black lead to ground and the probe to the 12vdc source. Ensure the meter is in the VDC STRAIGHT LINE WITH DASHES not the wavy line with dashes. Direct current is always represtened with a straight line and a wavy line is ALTERNATE current.

Need more. Ask Jeeves!

by the way from what u just said you definitely have a bad contact somewhere or a really bad short to ground.

Who did your wiring?

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Thanks alot . EOPerformance did the wiring, and it looks like a decent job, but there are still some loose ends that aren't plugged in (but the car ran fine when nothing was wrong). I'll check out the readings tomorrow and see whats up. I'm still pissed about the 110$ starter rebuild though .


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