I found the problem for loss of power in our cars!

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hey jr_ss that's not me you're quoting. please re-read. calling you illiterate is not a personal attack, it's the truth it seems.


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the OP is right...why used a performance fuel pump when your just DD.... just like riding on a 3000 dollar coilover when your just DD.....common sense...

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there is nothing wrong buying stuff from ebay. you can find good deal sometimes......its like comparing the MALL with FREEMARKET....

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i240sx: don't even bother...you're just gonna get flamed for saying that by these guys. it's pointless. they're gonna twist that and interpret it as you saying walbro sucks and should never ever be used, like they did with me.

this thread sucks, almost to the point where it should just be locked.

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it is kinda funny to read all of this s*** tho but everybody knows the golden rule..lol..thanks for the laugh Droptop its all good in da hood YAY EBAY

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free post

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did that ebay fuel pump go in an s13 with an rb25 in it? or just a stock KA. ohh, and ive had my walboro pump fueling my sr20 for over 3 years now. pumps like a champ.

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DroptopDrifting wrote:i240sx: don't even bother...you're just gonna get flamed for saying that by these guys. it's pointless. they're gonna twist that and interpret it as you saying walbro sucks and should never ever be used, like they did with me.

this thread sucks, almost to the point where it should just be locked.
I did not flame you because you wanted to go ebay, I flamed you because I had great luck with at least 4 Walbro pumps, and you gave terrible reasons to go with the ebay one. What does the "smallness" have to do with it???? You never answered that inquiry. You say that the walbro will not outlast the OEM??? I would say that that is BS considering that the reason that I originally replaced the pump in my 2000 Civic, is because the factory pump crapped out on me just after the warr. had ran out.

Granted, they may not be lasting as long with the extra addition of Ethenol in the fuel, but, out of the 6 years that I ran my 240sx with an SR and a walbro pump, they were adding ethenol for at least 4 of them and they have been adding ethenol to the fuel since the 70's. As a result of the 70's fuel crisis. So, I cant vouch for anyone but myself, if you want to buy the ebay pump and you arent worried that it might not last, then great. I like my cars to be reliable, and Walbro helped me with that. I also know alot of guys running the Walbro for alot of years without issues.

So, the flaming was warranted because of your terrible reasoning. If you had said that the OP doesnt need 255 LPH in his DD, then that would be a great reason. But the way I see things, if the OP is planning on modding the car in the future, then the Walbro would be the better option.

{its a $70 difference. ebay is $30 and walbro is $99 from frsportanyone know how much an oem one is? probably somewhere in between those. and walbro has a shorter lifespan than the oem one. have you seen the smallness of the walbro? theres a few reasons to go ebay instead of walbro. only put the walbro in if you need to, if you ask me.}

BTW, this is the post that I read and didnt agree with, so, anything else you would like to make up. Feel free, but you originally left this terrible post and thats what people got on you about. Swallow your pride and buy whichever pump you want. I am sure that the OP is glad to see that you have jacked his thread to try and figure out which pumps come with a filter, too.

BTW, the last walbro I bought had a filter with it...

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Drop, my apologies... I believed you to be the OP. Confusion not Illiteracy.

Carry on...
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jr_ss wrote:Drop, my apologies... I believed you to be the OP. Confusion not Illiteracy.

Carry on...

Modified by jr_ss at 9:49 PM 7/7/2009
lol it's ok. it's just frustrating trying to point it out. s*** happens.
blacksrjdm wrote:
I did not flame you because you wanted to go ebay, I flamed you because I had great luck with at least 4 Walbro pumps, and you gave terrible reasons to go with the ebay one. What does the "smallness" have to do with it???? You never answered that inquiry. You say that the walbro will not outlast the OEM??? I would say that that is BS considering that the reason that I originally replaced the pump in my 2000 Civic, is because the factory pump crapped out on me just after the warr. had ran out.

Granted, they may not be lasting as long with the extra addition of Ethenol in the fuel, but, out of the 6 years that I ran my 240sx with an SR and a walbro pump, they were adding ethenol for at least 4 of them and they have been adding ethenol to the fuel since the 70's. As a result of the 70's fuel crisis. So, I cant vouch for anyone but myself, if you want to buy the ebay pump and you arent worried that it might not last, then great. I like my cars to be reliable, and Walbro helped me with that. I also know alot of guys running the Walbro for alot of years without issues.

So, the flaming was warranted because of your terrible reasoning. If you had said that the OP doesnt need 255 LPH in his DD, then that would be a great reason. But the way I see things, if the OP is planning on modding the car in the future, then the Walbro would be the better option.

{its a $70 difference. ebay is $30 and walbro is $99 from frsportanyone know how much an oem one is? probably somewhere in between those. and walbro has a shorter lifespan than the oem one. have you seen the smallness of the walbro? theres a few reasons to go ebay instead of walbro. only put the walbro in if you need to, if you ask me.}

BTW, this is the post that I read and didnt agree with, so, anything else you would like to make up. Feel free, but you originally left this terrible post and thats what people got on you about. Swallow your pride and buy whichever pump you want. I am sure that the OP is glad to see that you have jacked his thread to try and figure out which pumps come with a filter, too.

BTW, the last walbro I bought had a filter with it...
i guess it's hard to truly relay how you actually mean by a statement on here. i was just tryin to stick up for the OP with the ebay pump since, assuming he wasnt talking about an rb25det powered s13 cuz the thought of an ebay pump in a car like that didnt even come to my mind, he had no reason to get a walbro as it was just for his daily it seemed. but yeah, when i was referring to "smallness" i meant the filter, i had been up for like two days and musta lost myself in train of thought, idk. i figured my walbro had gone bad quicker since the filter was smaller than the stock/oem one. ever since it went back a few years ago on my other car, on this car i change the filter once a year. my bad there.

and as for jacking the thread, it started out with me just asking the OP whether the ebay pump came with the filter or not, cause i hadn't seen it in the pic on ebay. just a simple question about his ebay pump experience.
DroptopDrifting wrote:how are those ebay pumps? are they actually somewhat decent?
DroptopDrifting wrote:did you get the pump from "Radiator Guys" on there? did it come with a filter too? in the pic i dont see one....
i coulda swore the topic was about the OP replacing his pump with an ebay pump thus fixing the problem he was having with his car.

oh and as for "people" getting on me about that 1 post, i think you mean just you. every single person seemed to have a different reason. jr_ss misread/mistook me for OP, which i had a feeling. igovroom...well who knows, seemed more like just jumpin on the flame train. and maryjane just didn't read every post consecutively. i think all this is pretty obvious.

for all i care, it's over. i've moved on. arguing on here is tiring and annoying.

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wow that was probably exactly what a male to male anal raping police report woulda looked like.... yup.... pretty sure.

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after reading this entire thread I have come to the conclusion that op should have just changed his fuel pump and not told anyone that he did the task, and then he could have offered that maybe a possible problem would be the fuel pump.

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hahahhaha lol....

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wow guess I should of kept my mouth shut when I found out a solution for a common problem with nissans. since I dont have the time to argue with most of you guys im just going to answer some of the questions that came up. first off the ebay fuel pump is really good in fact it is o.e.m., how o.e.m. you ask? it says DENSO on the side and has a nissan badge stamped on it. it looks exactly like the stock one I removed but you do have to cut and crimp the power and ground wires I sodered them instead of using the supplied crimps. it does come with the filter it is not in the pictures but it does come with the kit, also it gets rid of the pressure hose that is on the stock pump. it was on my ka and not my rb25 I dont even own that thing anymore. about it not being good because its a ebay pump if I thought for one second that it was poorly built I would not put it in my car I dont want to be stuck on the side of the road to save a few bucks. I must have disposable income to be able to buy a $30 pump. oh and im so sorry for saying "are cars" instead of "my car" you dont have to pinch a loaf about it.

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Hmmm...

I always thought the reason why our cars had a loss of power was the fact it had a ka motor in it.

...well, i could be wrong.

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HAHA that is true, there still great motors though.

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DroptopDrifting wrote:
do you understand how a fuel pump works? not a difficult thing. some stuff you can get off ebay, i.e. intakes, and they're perfectly fine. other things, like turbos, you dont buy on ebay. you just have to think about the design, how elaborate the item is, how difficult it may be to be precise when making it, etc. the fuel pump doesnt seem too crazy so i figured i'd enquire about it. oh, and if you're lookin for REAL dependable, i wouldn't even bother changing anything from stock.
QFT!

Sometimes spending now more saves you money in the long run..sometimes people throw their money out because they're afraid of not buying a brand name.

This is especially sad when the knock-off is made in the same factory as the "name brand" item

EDIT: Damn I'm late to the party


Modified by Karateboy88 at 4:22 PM 7/11/2009

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I get NO power on hot days. It's like driving a Festiva... AND I can smell gas in the vents at times...IS it just me or do other people smell gas in the vents sometimes?

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GODCHSR wrote:I get NO power on hot days.
Want to know why that is?
GODCHSR wrote:IS it just me or do other people smell gas in the vents sometimes?
I think a good majority of 240 owners will smell gas every now and then.

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S13_love wrote:
Want to know why that is?

I think a good majority of 240 owners will smell gas every now and then.
Intake air temps is what I think you'll say.

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GODCHSR wrote:Intake air temps is what I think you'll say.
Yeah sort of...

Imo, this is the way i think it goes...on cold days, i assume you noticed that you probably get better performance, right? In cold air, oxygen is more compressed so when your car is getting all that air, it's getting more oxygen to the engine, etc.

As for hot days, its pretty much the opposite..........I dunno, i just think that's the way it goes.

Although somebody correct me if im wrong....

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yeah my car would mostly act up on hot days but not always. I do smell a gas and sometimes a burnt electric smell.

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S13_love wrote:
Yeah sort of...

Imo, this is the way i think it goes...on cold days, i assume you noticed that you probably get better performance, right? In cold air, oxygen is more compressed so when your car is getting all that air, it's getting more oxygen to the engine, etc.

As for hot days, its pretty much the opposite..........I dunno, i just think that's the way it goes.

Although somebody correct me if im wrong....
That's right but I was wondering in my post how the fuel pumps relates to Hot days. How does a Hot day make the fuel pump run worse? (It's an honest question, no sarcasm)

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GODCHSR wrote:How does a Hot day make the fuel pump run worse?
I have no idea lol...maybe it has to do something with the high temps and the gas thats in the tank.

...Sorry i wouldn't have any idea on how a hot day would make a fuel pump not work right.

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S13_love wrote:
I have no idea lol...maybe it has to do something with the high temps and the gas thats in the tank.

...Sorry i wouldn't have any idea on how a hot day would make a fuel pump not work right.
Does the OP have a response for this though??? The OP made it seem like Hot days played a role in the declined perfromance of the fuel pump.

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what ever happened to taking pride in your car? a $30 FUEL PUMP?

seriously?

GTFO. go back to hondatech.

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And here was feeling a bit sketchy about using the walbro for my RB

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I can understand that concern and mentality but this doesn't seem like an issue of rocket science by any means.

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stupid..........whats wrong with a 30 dollar fuel pump???......you bought $30 of oil from autozone...


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