i clogged my manifold intake with plastic now it is stuck in the valve

[mikebradfordark]

so what do i do is i t hard to remove the upper intake manifold is is a 240 nissan sx 91 ka de s-14 i know it will not go past 40 so i want to know my limits before i start pulling bolts off and get in to worse trouble since i caused it and people say i should weld my hood shut . well if i can do this and unclog it i know it could be the problem help me since i have never done this it need ot be done soon thanks !!!

[krazydriver]

i'm sorry but i can't really understand that.

Please explain what got sucked into the intake manifold. and what "valve" your talking about.

[mikebradfordark]

a plastic bag !! and i was told it has been sucked into the the piston valve .. sorry i know there are alot of valve but .. i been told i will have to take off the upper manifold intake and remove the plasticthanks for your reply . u think u are the crazy driver ???

[krazydriver]

How in the world did you suck a plastic bag in????

Dude if it got sucked into a hot engine it's probably all melted and nastied up in there. But your best bet is to download the factory service manual. here's the linkhttp://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/240sx/here's another one. http://www.240edge.com/manuals/usdm-cars.html

get the one for your car and look over the diagrams. It's not to hard to remove the intake... but idk what kinda damage the bag mighta done.

[mikebradfordark]

well i will try to explain the bacon .....the hose which goes to the intake the one above the vacum tubes the plastic black thing it had a hole and made the car run bad .. so i took a bag and said hey i will plug the hole with this ,,,, then i had no clue i thought was the pcv valve until.. i knew itwas the bag .. and i could not pull it out .. so . what ..... damge you talking about ?? a guy want to buy it for 500 and he wants to drive it so... i will fix it and sell it or bash it

[Duce40sx]

Okay,

First you must use proper English because it is very difficult to understand what you are talking about.

1. SO, a Walmart shopping bag was sucked into your intake?2. How the HELL did a shopping bag get into the intake? It is impossible, Unless you have a COLD air intake without a filter on it~

3. There is nothing, there Is no Advice~ The only suggestion is to remove the Intake MANIFOLD and remove the Engine Head, (the Top part of the engine)

****If you ran your car without an Intake Filter**** please Leave this Forum~~~

-----What advice are you looking for?-------

Do you want to get the plastic out?Answer: take apart the Intake system and engine

The valve is STUCK what should I do?Answer: Take apart the Engine Head and fix it.

That's it.~

[nismoracingsx]

i think hes saying that he had a hole in the intake tube...so he stuffed a plastic bag to block up the hole

then the intake sucked the bag into the throttle body, and i'm not sure which valve hes talking about...either an intake valve, or secondary butterfly valve, or it could be caught on the throttle body plate, idk

either way...you gotta admit...this **** is pretty funny honestly, i would expect a non-experienced person to at least go for duct tape or something, but a plastic bag??

[gingerbredman]

why...would the factory intake tube have a hole in it in the first place, thats pretty tough plastic

[nismoracingsx]

i don't know, i'm just a translater

[480sx]

What a sweet thread!

As stated above, that bag is most likley stuck in your throttle body. Take off your intake and see if its there. If you dont see it, hold the throttle body wide open and shine a flashlight into your intake manifold and see if you see it.. If not, its probably stuck in the b-fly valves inside your intake... Taking off the intake manifold is a job and a half, if you value your car take it to a shop and have them do it.. If it got into the heads, you should probably take that guys offer and sell it for 500.

For a most unusual way to roach a 240.

[Valett85]

wow, i am honestly blown away. a plastic bag to plug a hole on your intake. A bum with no car would know not to do that. But anywho. sorry for your luck. next time go with the duct-tape idea.

[Duce40sx]

Damn,

NIsmo racingsx,

I am about to get a Bachelors in Industrial TEchnology~ At CSULAand You are ten times more clever than I am.I will nominate you for the NISMO Nobel Prize! LOL .

I mean if you're going to stuff a plastic plug....have the common sense to create a plug that has a cap on top bigger than the hole.

I am going to lable this Thread:

POWNED For Carelessness

[mikebradfordark]

ok i will take the time to do it right the next time lesson number 1 . take the the time to do it right a stich in time saves nine . that is why i am going to do this right .. the mechanic says estimate it would take 300 dollars and he never even looked at the car . what is needed is to take off the intake manifold from the car the upper one and to be able to allow the intake valves to be able to take in air ... i have looked in the intake manifold but i have not seen any thing so far . which the plastic could have been lodged inthe egr valve or something place on route to the intake manifold in do not have too go to the valve but at the point of entry in the throttle body throat the plastic has stopped the proper air flow which would allw the car too have the proper compresion . oh yes the was a intake filter . to be able to find out where the plastic is i need the right tools .and also i need to know if there is any thing techincal to doing this job right .. like i dont think there is any major work such as setting a time belt or fuel line it just simple taking off bolts and cleaning out the vacum . if there is more to that this i need to know !! knot later .. that is why i am so through on this email since fixing cars by internet is hard but .. i hope by now you get the yeah i used duct tape

Damn,

NIsmo racingsx,

I am about to get a Bachelors in Industrial TEchnology~ At CSULAand You are ten times more clever than I am.I will nominate you for the NISMO Nobel Prize! LOL .

I mean if you're going to stuff a plastic plug....have the common sense to create a plug that has a cap on top bigger than the hole.

I am going to lable this Thread:

POWNED For Carelessness

so what do i do is i t hard to remove the upper intake manifold is is a 240 nissan sx 91 ka de s-14 i know it will not go past 40 so i want to know my limits before i start pulling bolts off and get in to worse trouble since i caused it and people say i should weld my hood shut . well if i can do this and unclog it i know it could be the problem help me since i have never done this it need ot be done soon thanks !!!

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[skrappy]

Holy crap this is the sweetest thread yet that i have seen on here. Ok for one you should never touch a vehicle again and two weld your hood shut. LMAO. Ok well if its stuck in the valve train then i wouldnt be surprised if your heads all screwed up with melted plastic. If its not then you deffinently need to pay a professional to do this cuz you have no clue what your doing. This is almost like the guy who poured sand in his intake to port and polish the head. One more thing. Please learn to speak engrish. That last post of yours was the hardest one yet to understand. All i got was intake and plastic bag. Dont be a fool stay in school.

[nismojunkie]

"This is almost like the guy who poured sand in his intake to port and polish the head." That was the first thing I thought when I started to read this, lol.

[skrappy]

LMAO. We need a video of this. Holly crap i was rolling when i read this.

[mikebradfordark]

skrappy ..

[skrappy]

skrappy ..

[mikebradfordark]

for your new years entertainment here is a sweet thread for those who love thier cars and i love mine .as is but i do want it too stay that way hey i had offers for it and it been on the side of the road !! and i dont see many nissan 240 sx around here i seen one and i also have seen on red ferrai so go figure... bisogno auito un puo scrivere italaini so if you can write in italalin i can use the help ...now no for the fun part .. i will not pay someone for something i can do my self i wash my own car... so if want to pay a mechanic 3oo to look at my car he not sure if he takes offthe manifold that will be the problem but i for sure he wants the money so.. i would "like" to do it myself if it takes all day and do it right the first time see guys .,, i have to admit .. i made a mistake .. i "failed'! so scrappy !!! it was stupid . so the first part of fixing the problem is to know what that is what i am here for .. if i knew it i would not be giving you this sweet thread,,, so ... unless you can agree on this leave the forum.. i would not want to drive anything else but my 24o sx! even in this conditon.. i have seen what it can be now i ready to get my hand dirty when it gets warmer ..

[codyace]

I'd say just drive it. That bag will isntantly melt in the combustion process, and or just dissolve....

[skrappy]

I'd say just drive it. That bag will isntantly melt in the combustion process, and or just dissolve....

[codyace]

Why bash? i've been with friends cars who have accidentally sucked ziplocs through engines, having shut down the motor, tore the entire intake off and head off, to find no traces of ziploc anywhere.

Don't hate my sloppyness, embrace it.

[mikebradfordark]

thanks for the advice .. codyace this could happen. i no that the egine improves in performance when the vacums are sealed and air tight but the engine dies when the maf mass air flow sensor is removed since plastic may have been logged in egr valve . any how i will dismantle the intake .. i will clean it out any way as i have read there are alot of junk which can be taken off ... it more that just a clogged pcv valve ! scrappy

[ghettoslide]

this so can not be real. Are you nuts???

[mikebradfordark]

yes ghetto slide it is fore real and i am not the only one !

[got chub]

Avete bisogno di qualcuno di scrivere in italiano in modo da inizi a scrivere

[DA82KC]

Plastic Wal Mart sack in the intake....cute...

You know some years ago in an auto skills competition, they rigged up a Ford Taurus with a tennis ball in the intake. It jacked around with the computer so bad that the computer threw codes for TPS and coolant temp sensor. I was p***d off when i found the tennis ball!

[skrappy]

this so can not be real. Are you nuts???

Im so with you on this!! If your so lazy that you wouldnt take off the intake to fix this problem then your in a fantasy car world where that **** actually is ok. Lazy+stupidity=Retard. I can see how maybe if it was just a small peice of plastic like the size of a quarter got sucked in, but a wally world bag isnt small and not all of it is gana get burned off. You will start warping things, bending valves, jackin up pistons and then bye bye motor. All im sayin is do it right and find out how to do it and what to do. So you love your car. I love mine too. doesnt change the fact that your takin advice from some ignorant fools. Sorry i just find this whole thing very funny.

[ghettoslide]

Well when i clean my engine i cover the end of my intake and the mafs with a plastic bag along with the distributer and coil. I have started the car before with the bag still over the intake, it just chokes out my engine. If you done this, but removed the air filter then i do not see the entire bag getting past your throttle body. I say it would bunch up there and shred or choke out the engine. This is just a litle hard to swallow for me. Check the manifold first, If you still have the secondary butterflys it might be there as well.

[codyace]

I love mine too. doesnt change the fact that your takin advice from some ignorant fools. Sorry i just find this whole thing very funny.

Ignorant and experience are very different. You would be incredibly surprized what can go through and into an engine without issue.

Now, the secondary butterfly issue could hold it up, but if any of it got into the C/C or near it, you can be assured it would be melt down town, with no issue.