I am so PO'ed... Time to catch up Infinit!

[OneofaKind949]

Just saw a Youtube video on the new Ford V6 Mustang. FYI, by no means do I like Fords. In fact I hate them, due to one of my first cars being a Ford Tempo. Horrible car! However, the new V6 engine by Ford makes 300+ hp and gets 31mpg!!! Ford is first to achieve this. I'm really jealous, I wish Infiniti was first to reach this mile stone. I'd like to see Infiniti come out with better more fuel efficient (Di) engines. I know for a fact Infiniti can make better cars then Ford. Time to catch up Infiniti! I hope someone at Infiniti actually reads this post... Sorry guys just needed to vent.
Modified by OneofaKind949 at 5:13 PM 3/31/2010

[SVTCOBRA]

You go right ahead and vent!!!

But,

Have You Driven A Ford Lately??

[EdSac]

Have 430 horses and they get 30 mpg.

[zozoka1212]

Did somebody say Ford?



I love Furd. Makes good cars. Can't wait till they come out with the Fiesta RS and the new Focus RS.

Go FURD.

BTW I think hard to beat Ford right now. They have the most hp for your $$$. Imagine how pissed the Camaro guys are. LOL

Just look at the GT and the GT500. The mpg just a bonus.

I am sure Infiniti/ Nissan will come out with the DI engine and it will be great on gas. But they still won't be able to beat Furd with $$$.

I wouldn't mind to have one on my driveway.

Maybe it is time for testdrive. Rich you should go for one too and we can write a nice review.

[SVTCOBRA]

first car was a 69 Mach 1, so you know I'm fond of them.Love the HP, mods, Cobra Engines!!!Don't care for the RETRO look - interior or exterior.Do like the exterior much better than interior, but they've waisted years with the RETRO look instead of moving forward making the mustang sleeker.

Now, I LOVE the way the G fits me compared to the mustangs.However, would like a little more HP and MPG.

Wish Ford would move forward with a better interior.

Yes, need to test drive that new GT with 400+ HP!!!!

Saw my dentist yesterday drive by in his new GT500.... But, guess he deserves a new one, he had been driving a 93 SHO

[370Z/28]

I for one am glad to see American car companies making such great advancements in the auto industry. I hate that we let Japan kick our azz like they did. I'm a proud American. Go Ford! My hubby is on his 2nd Ford truck. 130k trouble free miles on the first one and 50k so far on this one.

And Zo, just for the record....Ford doesn't bother us Camaro guys in the least!

[Poyzinous]

Well, Our infinitis also have a little bit more power, and broader torque band. And, a 3.69 rear diff, or 3.54 or 3.43The Ford uses a 2.93. That helps fuel economy a lot. And also, the Mustang is 350 pounds lighter. The G is heavier because its more comfy and luxurious, and a whole lot safer in accidents. Its strong. But don't worry. Next year, the G will have 10% less fuel consuption, and 6% more power.

[370Z/28]

Poyz, how can I find out what my rear-end ratio is?

I changed out my 2:73 in my Z38 to a 3:42. It is just amazing the difference your rear-end ratio makes.

[rocket69GTP]

Well, Our infinitis also have a little bit more power, and broader torque band. And, a 3.69 rear diff, or 3.54 or 3.43The Ford uses a 2.93. That helps fuel economy a lot. And also, the Mustang is 350 pounds lighter. The G is heavier because its more comfy and luxurious, and a whole lot safer in accidents. Its strong. But don't worry. Next year, the G will have 10% less fuel consuption, and 6% more power.

Something you are not telling us??? It would be nice if the mpg were up there with BMW. The 335i gets 20/29 and it's a TT.

[tollboothwilley]

Rear Diff:

2003-2006 Sedan 5AT are all 3.35 Final Drive2003-2006 Sedan 6MT are all 3.53 Final Drive

2003-2007 Coupe 5AT are all 3.35 FD2003-2007 Coupe 6MT are all 3.53 FD

2007+ G35 Sedan use a 3.69 FD

2008+ G35 Coupe use a 3.69 FD

I believe all G37s use the 3.69 FD as well.

[rocket69GTP]

Rear Diff:

2003-2006 Sedan 5AT are all 3.35 Final Drive2003-2006 Sedan 6MT are all 3.53 Final Drive

2003-2007 Coupe 5AT are all 3.35 FD2003-2007 Coupe 6MT are all 3.53 FD

2007+ G35 Sedan use a 3.69 FD

2008+ G35 Coupe use a 3.69 FD

I believe all G37s use the 3.69 FD as well.

There is the problem with the MPG in these cars. Axle ratio is too short.

[370Z/28]

Thanks TBW!

[370Z/28]

Yup...but that is what nails ya to the seat when you take off and that is why I bought the car. If I wanted gas mileage, I would have bought a Prius.

[speedeast]

Lexus has been making cars with 340hp/25mpg, 416hp/23mpg, 438hp/22mpg...

I was surprised to hear Ford had that economy, so I did some research and I'm afraid I have to make some corrections to your claims:

2010 Mustang V6 w/MT - 26mpg hwy - 210hp2010 Mustang V8 w/MT - 24mpg hwy - 315hp

These are still impressive numbers, BUT:

2010 G37 Coupe V6 - 27mpg hwy - 330hp2010 G37 Sedan V6 - 27mpg hwy - 328hp2010 M56 V8 - 26mpg hwy - 420hp

Looks like it's Ford that needs to catch up.

[370Z/28]

In all fairness to Ford (the guys in my car club would die) take the difference in the cost of the Mustang and the G and mod the Mustang to have more horsepower and have enough left over to build a garage for it.

Y'all aren't comparing apples and apples here.

[rocket69GTP]

Yup...but that is what nails ya to the seat when you take off and that is why I bought the car. If I wanted gas mileage, I would have bought a Prius.

And here I thought it was an awesome amount of torque that nails you to the seat. My grand prix is running 3.29's and a metric butt ton of torque. My wife still can't beat me off of the line and she can drive it. Up top though is a bit of a different story...

[370Z/28]

When choosing a gear for a car, you have to make the choice of where you want your power curve. Putting the 3:42 in my Z made it a bear off the line, but killed my 60-70 mph punch. I almost put a 3:73 in it. Glad someone talked me out of that.

[spacy9]

Lexus has been making cars with 340hp/25mpg, 416hp/23mpg, 438hp/22mpg...

I was surprised to hear Ford had that economy, so I did some research and I'm afraid I have to make some corrections to your claims:

2010 Mustang V6 w/MT - 26mpg hwy - 210hp2010 Mustang V8 w/MT - 24mpg hwy - 315hp

These are still impressive numbers, BUT:

2010 G37 Coupe V6 - 27mpg hwy - 330hp2010 G37 Sedan V6 - 27mpg hwy - 328hp2010 M56 V8 - 26mpg hwy - 420hp

Looks like it's Ford that needs to catch up.

He's talking about the new 2011 engines, not the 2010s.

2011 Mustang V6 w/MT - 19/29 - 305HP2011 Mustang V6 w/AT - 19/31 - 305HP

2011 Mustang V8 - 16/24 - 412HP

[fiveliterbeater]

There is the problem with the MPG in these cars. Axle ratio is too short.

no punt intended: but if you wanted MPG you shud've purchased a camry or accord

[rocket69GTP]

no punt intended: but if you wanted MPG you shud've purchased a camry or accord

I totally agree but I needed something with a little more "thrust" and had a great safety record. That POS Civic my wife was driving wasn't cutting it anymore.

[Poyzinous]

seriously, If I was that worried about fuel economy, I wouldn't have bought my G. I would have bought a CVT altima. Thats the bottom line. The new M56 has 417hp out of a big block 339ci V8 and has 25mpg highway. THAT is good for a 4000lb luxury sport sedan. The mustangs top gear is like a .68 ratio. Its made only for highway cruising, and you HAVE to downshift to pass or accelerate. The G has a .77 gear for 7th, and It doesn't need to go to 6th when you start to go uphill or need to do a calm pass.

[SVTCOBRA]

no punt intended: but if you wanted MPG you shud've purchased a camry or accord

Sorry, but I want my G35 Coupe with a cobra engine (and sound ) plus get 45 miles per gallon.......on regular.....while going uphill......in a school zone.....in the snow......and it gets even better mpg all out.

[370Z/28]

Keep smoking that crack, SVT.

[OneofaKind949]

Make sure to check out the 2011 Mustangs... the numbers are much better then the 2010.

2011 Mustang V6 305hp 31mpgs

Hope this clears up any confusion.

[speedeast]

I see. Turns out the numbers I gave for the Infinitis were for 2011. They are still impressive for what they are. The Mustang is getting a 3.7L for 2011 that runs 87 octane too; the Infinitis run on premium unleaded. Economy wise, the Mustang will be better, but I'd never buy it over an Infiniti.

Kudos to Ford, but unfortunately your reputation precedes you.

Ford actually reduced displacement by .3L and kicked the compression from 9.7:1 to 10.5:1. Are they finally getting it!?

[SVTCOBRA]

Kudos to Ford, but unfortunately your reputation precedes you.

Hard to recover from the dark days of the mustang.....Mustang IIand the Pinto, but for me, the ford's that I owned were more reliable than the Nissan/Infinitis I've owned.

We also had a 91 240sx se w/hicus....actually my son's. I still regret selling it when I took it away from him!!! Should have kept it for ME! Great car!!

[speedeast]

My grandfather had an old '89 Lariat F-150 that broke 200,000 miles with proper maintenance, but my father now has an '04 F-250 FX4 that has one problem after another. It's too hard to determine how long you can make a car last, but we all judge this book by it's cover. If I have a vehicle that leaves a stigma in my mind, I'm not likely to sway that direction again.

[SVTCOBRA]

Oh, I understand.....traded my beloved 69 Mach 1 in for a NEW 84 Daytona Turbo Z instead of the 300Z I lusted for....this was to save $$$ cause I was just out of college... WILL NEVER OWN ANOTHER CHRYSLER!!!

Also, got my oldest son a used 2002 Exploder.....at around 100K and the transmission was blown as well as the LSD....

[speedeast]

I had a 1992 Exploder myself. I LOVED it and just having a comfortable SUV (eddie bauer) but boy did it have problems.

[zozoka1212]

Telcoman? Where are you?