I am not impressed with the EVO 8

Post by **nismodave** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

I went to the track t-night......there were 2 EVO 8s there....

The best either could do was [email protected] it was a very cool night here in WI....

The owners confirmed that they are a ****** to launch. Needless to say I was kind of disapointed. But they are still beutifull cars.

In other news.....my roomate ran 13.1@109mph w' crummy launches.......until the rear end broke on his 03 Cobra.....

I cant wait to get my sr'd s14 goin again.....should be fun.

Post by **JDM** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

The rear end broke already on the cobra? Do you know what went wrong with it?

Post by **nismodave** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

JDM wrote:The rear end broke already on the cobra? Do you know what went wrong with it?

No.....it was leaking badly.....sounded really bad......grinding....shut down the track for a while...

Got towed to the dealer t-night....

Post by **SilviaLuvr** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

from what i hear the EVO VIII rely on a computer which regulates alot fo the cars full power. LIke any other car but their computers' are more strict. IDK i might be wrong. any EVO owners out there you are welcomed.

Post by **Rockenreno** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

from all the reviews I've seen the new EVO is awesome for the $30k price tag. It outperforms the new STi in the quarter and supposedly outhandles it as well

I definately wouldn't mind owning one of these bad boys!

Post by **Eklectrick** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

14.1? why would that be disapointing?

Post by **nismodave** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

Eklectrick wrote:14.1? why would that be disapointing?

Because Ive read reviews up to 1 sec faster.

Post by **Eklectrick** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

I didn't know what they are expected to run. Still 14.1 aint bad. Who knows what they did to get that extra second. Professional driver maybe on better tires?

Post by **SilviaLuvr** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

IDK about beating the new STI's?! they are bad @$$. i've seen on when i was at the shore in wildwood. and they are SICK!!!!!!! but the dealership was closed so i couldn't ask to test drive.

Post by **SmithSR** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

SilviaLuvr wrote:from what i hear the EVO VIII rely on a computer which regulates alot fo the cars full power. LIke any other car but their computers' are more strict. IDK i might be wrong. any EVO owners out there you are welcomed.

Um, no, the only way they could cut cost to get it into U.S. showrooms at the price they did was to remove the active center diff (ACD), among other things. the EVO 8 uses a viscous coupling(mechanical)style drivetrain.

Post by **SmithSR** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

Road & Track, March '03 issue has it at 0-60: 5.10-100: 13.41/4 mile: [email protected] close to what those guys managed

Post by **nismodave** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

SmithSR wrote:Um, no, the only way they could cut cost to get it into U.S. showrooms at the price they did was to remove the active center diff (ACD), among other things. the EVO 8 uses a viscous coupling(mechanical)style drivetrain.

Wow ....look at the big brain on Smith......

Post by **SmithSR** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

:bearchug for all car geeks, nismodave included

Post by **rps13det** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

uh the US evo 8 can beat an Sti? i dunno bout that, in a current japanese race video they talked about the newest Sti in japan, that ***** runs 12's STOCK!. yes stock, my friends have that video to prove it, imma try to find out which video it is.

Post by **nismodave** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

SmithSR wrote:Road & Track, March '03 issue has it at 0-60: 5.10-100: 13.41/4 mile: [email protected] close to what those guys managed

SCC May 03'0-60: 4.91/4 mile: 13.34@100 best (several 13.5s)

Post by **SmithSR** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

ok, Car and Driver just did a big write up on these two cars, giving top honors to the EVO8. This is what they came up with...STI: 0-60: 4.60-100: 12.40-130: 24.51/4mile: 13.2@103mphEVO:0-60: 5.00-100: 13.50-130: 28.51/4mile: 13.6@101mph

Post by **nismodave** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

SmithSR wrote:ok, Car and Driver just did a big write up on these two cars, giving top honors to the EVO8. This is what they came up with...STI: 0-60: 4.60-100: 12.40-130: 24.51/4mile: 13.2@103mphEVO:0-60: 5.00-100: 13.50-130: 28.51/4mile: 13.6@101mph

Evo must of handled better among other things to get roasted like that in those acceleration tests.....to get the nod...

I personally only trust R&T among the big auto mags....

But I better be able to run better than my 13.4@ 107 to keep pace with that STI.....sounds sick.....

Post by **SmithSR** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

Car&Driver noted the steering as the weak point on the STI "Too slow, some understeer" and steering on the EVO as "quick, communicative" and also "telepathic".

wow, telepathic steering. I don't know if there is a higher form of praise, but I'll drink ta that:beeroh yes, base price/price as tested: EVO: $29,582/30,062STI: $31,520/31,520

Post by **The Riot Hero** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

well i thinkt he EVO 8 is crap honestly, for the money, id rather have a corvette why? the new mark up, mitsu marked the new EVOs up to 40 grand, some kind of maintenance deal, you do realize that mitsu has a finance program for the mantainence of the car because its so unreliable, i mean the car fromt he factory is running 19 psi! sure the car would be cool for the track or the occasional auto X but its no road car.

the STi is a bit more designed to be streetable, im sure with some tweaking of the stock setup and some chassis stiffening it would take the evo out easily, i honestly think its simply a better engineered car. and i think it sbetter looking IMO evo looks like an accord with a body kit

Post by **The Riot Hero** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

SmithSR wrote:Car&Driver noted the steering as the weak point on the STI "Too slow, some understeer" and steering on the EVO as "quick, communicative" and also "telepathic".

wow, telepathic steering. I don't know if there is a higher form of praise, but I'll drink ta that:beeroh yes, base price/price as tested: EVO: $29,582/30,062STI: $31,520/31,520

thats because of the 13:1 steering ratio, have fun driving that on a rutty road, not to mention they needed a beasty power steering pump to power that ratio, which naturally is loud and it hurts my ears.

id take the subaru anyday, mmm lovely sound of a flat 4

Post by **jrc90240sx** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

I like the STI alot more then the Evo.

Post by **Eklectrick** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

I'll take one of each thank you.(to steal someone else's line on this board)

Post by **SmithSR** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

Basically, from what i can gather from tests and opinions in Car&Driver, R&T, Automobile, SCC, Motor Trend, and a couple others, the STI will be more useable everyday, on real world roads, and with a *nicer* interior, where the EVO8 is aimed more at the hardcore, stiff-ride-ain't-no-problem-all-i-wanna-do-is-kick-A$$ crowd.And I'll take one of each also, thankyou!

Post by **Meantime** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

nismodave wrote:No.....it was leaking badly.....sounded really bad......grinding....shut down the track for a while...

Got towed to the dealer t-night....

Sadly, I've read this sort of defect can be a problem for F-bodies as well, although so far I haven't busted the Z-T in mine yet...knock on wood. Even so, a new Mustang shouldn't be blowing rears unless it is REALLY abused.

At this point, I'd take EITHER a Lancer or an Impreza...even the N/A dogs...because both of my cars need work!

Post by **NeedCAforS13** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

rps13det wrote:uh the US evo 8 can beat an Sti? i dunno bout that, in a current japanese race video they talked about the newest Sti in japan, that ***** runs 12's STOCK!. yes stock, my friends have that video to prove it, imma try to find out which video it is.

are you retarded? our sti is faster than the j-spec one...we have a 2.5 they have a 2.0, and neither runs 12's stock...don't believe me? go check out this month's road & track! the j-spec wrx sti makes 280 bhp from its 2.0 liter while ours makes 300 bhp! go read some noob before you make false statements like a stock rex runs 12's...

Sean

Post by **rudee023** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

Why is the J-spec getting 2.0 while we get 2.5 and 20 more horsepower? Payback finally?

Post by **NeedCAforS13** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

according to road & track for the j-spec one they are following the WRC race guidlines that limit the engine displacement to 2.0 liters...why we get the 2.5..i dunno? maybe cause its similar to the other 2.5 liter usdm engines (share some parts or something)

Sean

Post by **nismodave** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

My thread has officially been hijacked........

Post by **sultan** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

rudee023 wrote:Why is the J-spec getting 2.0 while we get 2.5 and 20 more horsepower? Payback finally?

hi, jack! :wavey anyway, i think we got the 2.5 for emission purposes. because of tuning and whatnot it's harder to make the 2.0 US emission legal. maybe gas, too. does the 2.0 with it's massive boost need higher octane than is available in the US?

Post by **nissan2k2** » Tue May 13, 2003 7:39 pm

the sti is faster than the evo. the evo has a faster 0-60 time because it has a 5 speed and can hold second until 65, but the sti, with a 6 speed, has to have a 2-3 shift before 60 and slows it down. The sti will take it in the 1/4 mile

I am not impressed with the EVO 8

I am not impressed with the EVO 8

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