how to paint my car s13 flat black using spray paint

[menacehect]

i want to know what i need and what is the best way to paint my car flat or satin black

i want it to look something like this



thanks in advance

[S13k]

duplicolor primer black? for spray paint people mostly use primer

doesnt look to good in my opinion

[darens13]

use real paint, but with a flattening agent. its going to be real tough to get an even streak-free paint job with a rattle can. do some research and take your time!

[koukiFC]

if you do resort to spray paint id do krylon rust control semi flat. it lays well for a rattle can,but wether its rattle or gun good prep work and sanding is the main part.

[wynnEZ]

Paint it one body panel at a time, and do lots and lots of prep work.

[S13Joe]

I'm going flat black as well due to body work. This is the guide I will be using.

http://www.nicoclub.com/articles.php?id=197237

Have fun.
Modified by DirtyGhettoKids at 9:57 AM 4/11/2009

[CrimsonRockett]

If you're looking for cheap, feel free to browse this thread.

http://zilvia.net/f/archive-fa....html

For $300, that looks really good(especially for being a flat paint job).

To be honest, you can spend roughly the same amount for a single stage glossy paint job and look good.

Barely any S13's look good in flat black.

[wishin_on_an_sr]

i did my car panel by panel, took bumpers, hatch, hood, fenders, headlights, and garnish off. i then did each panel horizontally then vertically, then diagonal and then followed by diagonal in the opposite direction. repeated painting process for the body panels and doors which i left on. it used up 40 cans! make sure that you do it when the temperature is constant or else your car will come out two different shades of black like mine

[sebazztard]

40 cans to still have an uneven paint job lol. op, move on to something else or pay a shop to paint it professionally.

[Jadesr20det]

That is my buddy joes old hatch....your car will not come out like that...he used a compressor and a decent gun and satin black paint....gl but just take it to a shop.....STOP SPRAY BOMBING CARS PEOPLE!!!!!!!

[pj]

<--- habitiual spray b0mber lol

[Justin35ll]

1. You have to know how to spray paint 2. Must prep the body before hand3. Slow and smooth straight lines

Mine (rustoleum).. dont mind the white on the bumper its from wet sanding the hood I gotta redo it.

[ashibah83]

Kryon Rust Tough Semi-Flat Enamel

LOTS of prep work

and where were you getting 40 cans???? its took me like 7 maybe 8

[OM3GA]

Im sorry to say but i am soo tired of flat black cars... The only car i think that looks good in flat black is that S15 that everyone masterbates over.. But seriously get it professionally done, Ive rattle canned a lot of cars and its just better and less of a hassle to have someone spray it decently for $300-$400. If you really want flat black, have it done and clear coated you will be very happy.

[White Comet]

flat black looks terrible most of the time. i painted my old s13 semi glsos black. check the earlier pages of my build thread for details

[lonely_coupe]

I've been here only a short while but this topic is on all car forums in every scene... seems to come up here a lot though, due to so many 240s getting old and needing body work.

Flat rattle can CAN look decent, but usually ONLY when your car is lowered, has a decent set of wheels, and other accompanying/ accenting mods to where your car has a theme.

if you just take a stocker car and spray bomb it, it's probably gonna look tacky no matter how perfect you prep and lay the paint.

I actually have debated this myself since my new coupe needs fender work, and the silvia front is black and the rest of my car is faded red...

but, from going through so many threads and seeing the results... I have decided to just temporarily go with while rustoleum rattle can.

white is much easier to do since imperfections don't really show....

when i get the money, I will eventually have the car painted gloss black, or gloss something baller... havent gotten there yet.

but, thats all just my opinion on this topic.

if you think you can pull off black, go for it, it's your car. just take your time.

i just think for my purposes, white is a much smarter choice for a rattle can job. white looks great, too!!! flat black is plaaaaayyyyyed out.

[White Comet]

white is actually the hardest color to spray. your lighting will cast a shadow on it and you'll think the shadow is an area that you havent evenly coated. Its very easy to have runs and imperfections in white since theyre harder to detect

[J0SHYee]

make sure the paint in the shade and out of the sun. Otherwise your pj will come out blotchy.

[gregfarz78]

sorry but flat black from a rattle can NEVER looks good I don't care how much prep or how good you spray it still looks horrible...someone mentioned it took 40 cans??!!?? lol thats probably about $200 s*** you can do a cheap single stage job for that

If you're going to paint the car for real eventually don't use rattle can paint or be prepared to strip all that crap off later when you repaint it. Or check this out

http://www.tcpglobal.com/kustomshop/ksflatz.aspx

[AZ89two4Tsx]

It's all in the prep work. Seriously, it is.

Rattle canning should be a last resort though, try as hard as you can to get ahold of a compressor & gun, it'll be much easier and look better. But if you know what you're doing, rattle canning can look ok. And a nice tool to pick up on the cheap for your can would be one of these:



They're cheap and work great. Really helps with technique and keeping your passes even and steady. And did I mention it's all in the prep?

GL!

[lonely_coupe]

white is actually the hardest color to spray. your lighting will cast a shadow on it and you'll think the shadow is an area that you havent evenly coated. Its very easy to have runs and imperfections in white since theyre harder to detect

i've heard otherwise. i will make sure to have an even light source from all angles then. thanks for the info.

[AZ89two4Tsx]

Oh, I forgot. DON'T paint your car in the sun! Actually, try to refrain from even painting it outside if possible.

[White Comet]

i've heard otherwise. i will make sure to have an even light source from all angles then. thanks for the info.

glad to help, but i'm sure my info is correct, since it came from an AMAZING pro painter

[mRodiek]

White might be harder to spray, but it shows dirt much less than black, white stays cleaner longer, and looks the best when done correct

[White Comet]

no doubt, but when applying the color its the hardest, not counting pearls, metallics, candies, etc

[wishin_on_an_sr]

40 cans to still have an uneven paint job lol. op, move on to something else or pay a shop to paint it professionally.

yeah i wanted to shoot myself when i realized what i did. dont worry, its fixed now. and sorry for the threadjack

[lonely_coupe]

White might be harder to spray, but it shows dirt much less than black, white stays cleaner longer, and looks the best when done correct

yeah, this is what I meant.

whitecomet, it's def. only a temporary thing. and I'm sure the application of ANY color paint isn't easy. but, i have a lot of rattle canning experience, and I know a little bit of the ins and outs of prep work, so it should look pretty good!

but ultimately, i will probably want a nice gloss black or some darker color... but glossy paint is LAST on the list right now, ya dig?

[White Comet]

yeah i hear ya. i rattle canned my last s13 and it came out good. with this one i think i'll rattle can it close to the stock color for now

[SirSilvia]

What my body guy does is uses rattle cans but doesn't spray with them.

Of course there's A LOT of sanding and body prep done before, during and after. Best thing is to remove anything that is NOT to be painted. Emblems, lights, antennas, wiper nozzles, mirrors and the glass if you really want to go that far. Then masking everything, taking your time doing so.

His process is he fixing any rust, holes and dents. Sands the body and uses body putty and smooths everything down perfect. Primes it and goes over the surface again to make sure it's smooth and any and every crevice is filled. Sands again if needed, then does the first coat, then second, wet sands a little to get any paint roughness out then does at least one more coat. Wet sands again, and makes sure there's not an orange peel surface to it. Then normally does 2 coats of clear and wet sands again.

He has a decent spray gun which hooks into a moister trapthen he has it going to a pressure regulator.

After letting the spray can sit for a while to settle. He pokes a hole in the spray can to relieve the pressure and empties it into his gun. The moisture trap is so water, which is naturally in the air, doesn't mix with what's painted on the car.He keeps the pressure at about 40 p.s.i. to ensure an even spray all the time.Not like a spray can which is decent for the first few minutes then spurts droplets at the surface you're painting.

It comes out freakin amazing, and you don't have to pay the big bucks for the expensive paint.

This guy is a pro and I sit and just chill at his place and just watch him work. Learned a lot.

Any paint job is only going to look as good as the effort you put in it. Takes some skill, a good amount of common sense, attention to detail and a sh*t load of patience, and obviously time if you wanna do it right.

[pedobear-lovin]

i thought they killed Saddam Husein? wtf bbq?

just paint the car a real color, not flat black. always will look unfinished.