how to make a custom air intake setup 4 your Q(no criticism please)

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Does any one kno exactly what parts you need for this projectand what to do once you get rid of the stock air box?

Mine is broken anyway its either gonna be cheaper or just as much to buy an after market intake+filter and install it myself instead..

Please dont comment if you dont have any advice.. some people just dont want that monstrosity underneath their hood


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A Q45 Junkyard will supply you with a better product than you can ever build for less money

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Good luck bringing this up without getting criticism. You didn't say what year your Q is so I don't know if this will help but I've done it and here is my thread about it. I still have the one shown here if you are interested and have a non active model. I have more MAF flanges if you just want to start with that and make your own.

zerothread?id=246554

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Evanarc wrote:...some people just dont want that monstrosity underneath their hood
Some people eat at McDonalds also.

Oh well, like the subject says, no critical thinking, just fan boy Kool Aid.

I guess "monstrosity" is a good enough label for anything one doesn't understand.

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dude get a life I asked if n e one had advice not an opinionif u payed attention u wouldve read that mine is already broken, num nuts

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qsiguy wrote:You didn't say what year your Q is so I don't know if this will help but I've done it and here is my thread about it. I still have the one shown here if you are interested and have a non active model. I have more MAF flanges if you just want to start with that and make your own.

zerothread?id=246554
Thanks for the advice at least someone thinks outside the air box.I have a 1994 Q non T; Im interested in ur flanges, but would they fit? and then what pipes and/or filter should I buy off air intake direct.com?

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Evanarc,Here's some advise.Put the yr model of your Q in the description box on the side.in failing to do that, at least put your year model in the title.

The reason why..... the 02Q and newer Do NOT perform better w/ aftermarket air systems. Several posters have tried.

You will learn to love Brian, he has actually mellowed, he's much more subtle these days.

Also, The regular posters REALLY know their stuff.Welcome!

Mark

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Evanarc wrote:....read that mine is already broken, num nuts
BigAlAtlanta wrote:A Q45 Junkyard will supply you with a better product than you can ever build for less money
The truth is difficult for the deluded to comprehend.

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First off if you expect to receive any help you must treat others with respect.. Or leave. We maintain a level of maturity that, unfortunately especially of late, exceeds most Q owners.

Secondly.. I dont think anyone here will lose any sleep if you want to make your own cold air intake thing.. All I know is that my Q with its factory "ram air" will perform better than a cone filter stuck inside the hot engine bay... you're welcome to do what you want, or refer to the experts to what is proven..

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Your dollar would go alot further if spent in a community college.......

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qship96 wrote:Your dollar would go alot further if spent in a community college.......
Ouch

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Thanks.. I wasnt tryin to offend n e one with my vision of a different intake..I just posted in hopes that someone may know the best solution for my 1994 q45. The black pipe thats parts of the stock OEM air box has a bunch of leaks n e way, so something has to be replaced .. I fixed it with tape but its on borrowed time.i dont want u guys 2 think Im a senseless modder, im just aiming for a different sound

besides, a wise man once said-

" if somethin's already f-d up and u f with it and its still mess up, what did u lose?.."or somethin like that

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hey just go find a correct adaptor for your intake and a tube which will supply room for all of the vacuum lines and use intercooling piping, fitting and couplings to make your self something nice trust me its like a puzzle. Do it and see what will happen and report back. If someone tries to get in your way forget them i deal with it all the time one of my last threads got locked…... if you find the correct maf adaptor hit me up on my email i been looking for one.

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Evanarc wrote:dude get a life I asked if n e one had advice not an opinionif u payed attention u wouldve read that mine is already broken, num nuts
I like how you type "n" and then "e" but then you spell out "one". If you "wouldve"(would have/ would've) Put an effort towards using the free education your fellow tax payers paid for, then maybe people COULD read what you are trying to say. Personally, that hurt my (and I am sure a lot of other peoples) brain to try and decipher. I believe it is YOU who is the "num"(numb) nut.

Now, back to the topic at hand. If you can't look at the situation, and figure out what it is that you need to perform this modification... You probably should not be trying to attempt this.

Oh, and by the way, when your topic has "(no criticism please)" in it... You are just asking for it.

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hehe great stuff. I saw an old post from elwesso about the factory intake from a 90-93 Q... I'm actually thinking about going to the junkyard and picking one up and putting it on my 94 Q.

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I ran my filter in the bumper area and anchored it. Gets cool air not hot engine air. Check this out you anti-oilers!]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...op:us

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First, I'll say everyone needs to "cool off".

Please, don't judge others by how they choose to type/communicate. If the thread is hard to read or the way it's written is annoying, hit the back button. It's that simple.

Now, on to the topic.

It really comes down to what you're trying to do, and as I understand the original poster, he's trying to solve the leaky air box issue he has "cheaply" and see if he can find some gains at the same time.

First, I must say the only thing ever "cheap" about Q45's the purchase price, if that.

Second, as a Q45 owner used parts are your best new friend. Find a salvage yard, search ebay or heck even check out the Classifieds here. If the labor isn't difficult or expensive, trying a couple used parts can sometimes be cheaper than buying a new OEM or after market (if you can find one) part.

I've had 3 Q's and though the one that HAD a cone filter sounded a little meaner, there was no noticeable loss (nor gain) when I went back to the stock air box.

Everyone should feel free to try things out, but if you're going to ask, expect to get some disagreeing (and unwanted) opinions.

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Rex wrote:Everyone should feel free to try things out, but if you're going to ask, expect to get some disagreeing (and unwanted) opinions.
spoken like a gentleman.

I just want to be original, i dont feel like goin to the dealership or junkyard and askin for a new black box special; After spendin months doin body work myself, I been lookin for a simple modification project just for fun i guess. Im not the most mechanically literate person but i can follow instructions and im meticulous about detalis.

If ur someone like maxnix whos obviously bored and looking to contradict anyone's opinion u dont offer anything to this forum.

Ur like a 12 year old in a chatroom for the first time

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superuber,is that ebay link the cone filter you used? and youre positive i can make it fit my 1994 q45?

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Evanarc wrote:superuber,is that ebay link the cone filter you used? and youre positive i can make it fit my 1994 q45?
You still need a 3.5'' MAF adapter if you want a cone filter. Good luck with that.

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Tbrack,
lasoyafan wrote:
You still need a 3.5'' MAF adapter if you want a cone filter.
Do u know where I can get one?Or is there a better filter to get?

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evanarc

I've had stock and the CAI, but i did check the diff out and it wasn't noticeable so I went back to the COLD AIR INTAKE due to the sound but what I did, I removed all the factory tubing and routed a 4" dryer duct up to where the old ducting comes into the engine and believe me then I notice the diff with the CAI due to the fact that I was bringing in cool air from the outside into the engine bay, but no matter what anyone say do what you have to do to keep yourself happy with your Q, and CAI is the only way for me, I even made a custom CAI for my 1999 dodge Caravan and it sounds like I have a supercharger on it coming down the street... especially with the A/C on. the filter sits right below the front air dam, and as much as it rains here in CFL I've had no problems for years since it was installed back in calif in 2001

I'll see if I can find the pics of my Q with the ducting in front. just my 2 centsbut ask anyone who has a CAI you can't beat the Sound. plus get rid of the rear muffler then you'll really hear the VH45 roar.

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Read AZHitman's CAI additional downtube if you still have the OEM filter box.

If you don't, you really should get one if you want your engine to last.
Modified by maxnix at 5:14 PM 1/30/2008

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maxnix wrote:Read AZHitman's CAI additiona if you still have the EOM filter box. If you don't, you really should get one if you want your engine to last.
Here's the post zerothread?id=60172

Yes, it's nearly 4 years old. There's very little new to do to the Q aside from forced induction and now even a couple guys have done that.

Long story short, we've been there done that, and most have the busted knuckles, MAF, guides, etc

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Dude, Ive got a 93 and a 91. now i dont know all of the differiences between 93 and 94, but let me tell you i've put my HAI (hot air intake) from my 91 on my 93 and yes it did sound beter, but nothing really noticeable power wise. BUT, what i did next made a lot more differience. i drilled out the rivets on the air box and took off the lower resonater box. then put everyting back together. HOLY CRAP. if sound is what your going for, do that. it is twice as loud as the HAI. the way the sound bounces around and echo's is insane!! And its still getting cold air from outside and semi-cold air from the fan blowing air right tward the hole. cheap and sounds great. but like everyone here has been saying, stop, think , listen, and learn. then after all that under consideration, do what u want. Its your car.

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air horn on ebay. search Q45. think a buy now price of &20. ya'll r funny. thx.

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How did you "break" your air box?

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qship96 wrote:Your dollar would go alot further if spent in a community college.......
qship96 wrote:Your dollar would go alot further if spent in a community college.......


Ba-ZING!

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Super, that filter would look sweet sitting on the front of my turbo

If you follow what I did you will have a cold air intake. It's not a simple bolt on mod and it will most likely cost more than a used OEM airbox even if you do it yourself. You can buy the one pictured in my build thread, remove the complete OEM airbox, cut a 4" hole in the sheet metal and mount it up. Now if the tubing between the MAF and the throttle body is cracked you have more work to do, similar to what I've done pictured below. It will sound meaner but performance will most likely be pretty much the same. I didn't do mine for performance, I just wanted the sound until I got my turbo installed.

I have a set of MAF flanges waiting at the waterjet cutting shop right now that is a perfect fit to the MAF. I can weld on 3.5" stainless steel tube to it in any length you want. I have one person waiting for one unless they've lost interest. I need to email him. I'm picking them up tomorrow. I can also weld on stainless bends exactly like what you see below for before the MAF. The MAF to throttle body pipe I could build again as well but this one will only work if you have TCS I'm not sure how different the tube will be w/o TCS.





You'd need these two parts (minus the blow off valve) if all your tubing is shot.


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