*Assume the engine to start off with is completely stock with stock IC, Exhaust, ECU, etc...*
1. going from stock boost(7psi) with totally stock engine to 14 psi (I'm not sure that this is efficient with the stock IC, can someone elaborate on this please?)
2. Front Mount Intercooler
3. Aftermarket Header
4. Aftermarket Downpipe, straight pipe, and exhaust
5. aftermarket pulleys
6. T28 turbo upgrade.
7. ECU upgrade
Feel free to create your own combination of parts also. If this turns out how I wanted it to we should get a lot of good information from this.
How much HP would these add ------>
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1.21 Jiggawatts!
But seriously:1-Don't do it. It's not the best intercooler out there. I wouldn't use the stock sidemount for more than stock boost.2-None. It will let you run more boost. It will actually hurt performance at stock boost due to the size.3-With a stock turbo, not much. You'll spool a little faster, but thats about it.4-Not much, maybe 10-15. But you'll spool faster, which is good.5-None, you may free up a couple HP and rev a tad faster, but that's it6-Maybe run a little more boost. Minimal gains7-Depends on the upgrade. Get something gay like JWT, and not much, go full standalone, and it's limitless. I'm not a fan of piggyback either, but that's my opinion.
But seriously:1-Don't do it. It's not the best intercooler out there. I wouldn't use the stock sidemount for more than stock boost.2-None. It will let you run more boost. It will actually hurt performance at stock boost due to the size.3-With a stock turbo, not much. You'll spool a little faster, but thats about it.4-Not much, maybe 10-15. But you'll spool faster, which is good.5-None, you may free up a couple HP and rev a tad faster, but that's it6-Maybe run a little more boost. Minimal gains7-Depends on the upgrade. Get something gay like JWT, and not much, go full standalone, and it's limitless. I'm not a fan of piggyback either, but that's my opinion.
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hey sr240sxt if u havent figured it out, headers are on NA engines. and if u dont know what NA is its naturally aspirated, but if u didnt know that you shouldnt even be posting. exhaust manifold is what u would call it for a turbo. and id recommend doing a search, not just on this forum, but other 240 forums and then do a search on yahoo or something. dont take the easy way out and just ask questions, hah dont mean to rant on u or anything.
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mad hp....mad mad mad mad hp.... if u get another bov and put it in series with the first bov, it will give u the abovementioned hp SQUARED. in fact a buddy of mine ran 4 bov's in parallel, he got like SO many hp to the wheels, they wheels couldn't take it anymore and ran away, now his car don't drive right. BE CAREFUL KIDS! MAD HP IS THE UNCLE UR MOM TOLD U TO STAY AWAY FROM!
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BuudWeizErr, just cause i dont post much does not mean im a noob. thanx for pointing out your idiocy though.
and wow guys, im glad ppl can come here if they have questions to ask, i mean u guys are more than helpful. why dont u all stop being so ****y like u all know it all, cause u were all once noobs, so help, just like other ppl have helped u
and wow guys, im glad ppl can come here if they have questions to ask, i mean u guys are more than helpful. why dont u all stop being so ****y like u all know it all, cause u were all once noobs, so help, just like other ppl have helped u
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mightymouse...
Get off of your throne. you are a noob to this forum, and you are flaming a noob to this forum, so that means you are a noob flaming a noob. You did flame him, so I made my comment, which I am free to make. Why don't you practice what you preach?
In theory, none, but when running more boost and upgrading from a crappy recirculating valve, you will hold boost longer and be able to run more boost, especially if the recirc valve leaked. So theoretically, a BOV can add power, but not by itself.
Get off of your throne. you are a noob to this forum, and you are flaming a noob to this forum, so that means you are a noob flaming a noob. You did flame him, so I made my comment, which I am free to make. Why don't you practice what you preach?
slw240sx wrote:dude i got a BOV today how much Hp will that give me !?!?!?!
In theory, none, but when running more boost and upgrading from a crappy recirculating valve, you will hold boost longer and be able to run more boost, especially if the recirc valve leaked. So theoretically, a BOV can add power, but not by itself.
sil80drifter wrote:mad hp....mad mad mad mad hp.... if u get another bov and put it in series with the first bov, it will give u the abovementioned hp SQUARED. in fact a buddy of mine ran 4 bov's in parallel, he got like SO many hp to the wheels, they wheels couldn't take it anymore and ran away, now his car don't drive right. BE CAREFUL KIDS! MAD HP IS THE UNCLE UR MOM TOLD U TO STAY AWAY FROM!
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No, no, no... See, your getting it all wrong. If you run the BOVs in parallel, you get hella torque, but in series adds much HP...
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that's why u need at least 5 bov's in a turbo honda and probably 100 in a supra.... i think the jun supra is using 1 gadzillion just to err on the safe side.
ok enough of the sillyness. mightymouse, it's not like you helped a lot with your answer which was more derogatory than informative. the other noob is a noob too, so telling him to search and stop asking questions goes against your newly introduced "help them like they helped you" speech, expecially since YOU are a noob, and the little post count has to do with the fact that you joined this forum just last month, hence making you a noob no matter how u look at it. nothing wrong with being a one, you correctly stated we all were noobs before, but... don't try to act up. If you have something helpful to say, say it, don't flame people while ur trying to state the obvious. if you get flamed for being silly, then take it like a man, and realize that there are people here with 10 (in Bud's case 50) times your experience and post count here who are actually being helpful. if you look at your first post in this thread, you'll notice that you've repeated what others have said before you, and just added your own flames to it. that's it, nothing else to say.
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p.s: i feel like a newb saying all this...i think I'm growing troll ears....
ok enough of the sillyness. mightymouse, it's not like you helped a lot with your answer which was more derogatory than informative. the other noob is a noob too, so telling him to search and stop asking questions goes against your newly introduced "help them like they helped you" speech, expecially since YOU are a noob, and the little post count has to do with the fact that you joined this forum just last month, hence making you a noob no matter how u look at it. nothing wrong with being a one, you correctly stated we all were noobs before, but... don't try to act up. If you have something helpful to say, say it, don't flame people while ur trying to state the obvious. if you get flamed for being silly, then take it like a man, and realize that there are people here with 10 (in Bud's case 50) times your experience and post count here who are actually being helpful. if you look at your first post in this thread, you'll notice that you've repeated what others have said before you, and just added your own flames to it. that's it, nothing else to say.
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p.s: i feel like a newb saying all this...i think I'm growing troll ears....
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everyones is a noob compared to someone who has been around longer than that individual. telling him about the search wasnt that helpful, but still more help that what some of you guys gave. i didnt know the anwser to some, so i would rather not give false info. yea im a noob member to some of u, but ive been reading these forums for over 9 months, i just decided to become a member because i was interested in getting a 240sx, and had some questions. which i believe 10 months is longer then u bud.
bud, i actually helped him differentiate the difference between the header and exhaust manifold. if u call what i did flaming, then you shouldnt be responding to my post, cause u obviously dont know what you are talking about
and sil80, im glad your ego is as big as your almighty untouchable post count, like that has anything to do with anything. and the search function i told him about was more helpful than your whole BS blow off valve crap.
if you guys decide to go and flame me for trying to set this forum in the right direction instead of off topic and letting u guys know that pokin fun is not helpin, then have fun. thats all i got to say, and i wont even read anymore responses from this thread, cause you guys will always think you were right, and im just a dumb noob and shouldnt be posting anwsers or comments, just questions. have fun seeing who can be less of a noob by posting stupid stuff to make fun of ppl, sure i can post stupid stuff and fill mine up. and a noob is someone who is unaware, untrained, and unknowledgeable about the subject at hand. which would make practically everyone a noob in some way or another. i have wasted too much time on this. i would love to see what kind of smart a$$ remarks you have to say about this. feel free to AIM me at migthymouse0x if you have a prob with me. otherwise lets not waste this thread with pety immaturaty, from both sides of the argument.
bud, i actually helped him differentiate the difference between the header and exhaust manifold. if u call what i did flaming, then you shouldnt be responding to my post, cause u obviously dont know what you are talking about
and sil80, im glad your ego is as big as your almighty untouchable post count, like that has anything to do with anything. and the search function i told him about was more helpful than your whole BS blow off valve crap.
if you guys decide to go and flame me for trying to set this forum in the right direction instead of off topic and letting u guys know that pokin fun is not helpin, then have fun. thats all i got to say, and i wont even read anymore responses from this thread, cause you guys will always think you were right, and im just a dumb noob and shouldnt be posting anwsers or comments, just questions. have fun seeing who can be less of a noob by posting stupid stuff to make fun of ppl, sure i can post stupid stuff and fill mine up. and a noob is someone who is unaware, untrained, and unknowledgeable about the subject at hand. which would make practically everyone a noob in some way or another. i have wasted too much time on this. i would love to see what kind of smart a$$ remarks you have to say about this. feel free to AIM me at migthymouse0x if you have a prob with me. otherwise lets not waste this thread with pety immaturaty, from both sides of the argument.
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Hehe, good job trying to get out of hot water by "trying to keep the integrity of the thread." :rolleyes
You wanna talk about n00b? First get your math correct, which is blatantly wrong. You "started" reading NICO 9 months ago. Which would mean you started in around July? July is 2 months before my registration date. Not 10. LOL, if July was 10 months ago, this would be May.
I got my 240SX in August of 2001, and had done SR20 research for the 6 months before that while I tried to find a 240SX and save up money for the SR20. I was into this stuff WAYYY before the SCC generation, but I'm still here, helping out the community. I posted before you, provided good info, and if you read up on turbo pages, a lot of companies do call turbo manifolds, "turbo header." And please, don't say I don't know what I'm talking about, I did give the first "real" response in this thread.
If you don't like how we are treating you, you know since we did single you out and are oppressing you, press the little black x at the top right of your window and never return.
You wanna talk about n00b? First get your math correct, which is blatantly wrong. You "started" reading NICO 9 months ago. Which would mean you started in around July? July is 2 months before my registration date. Not 10. LOL, if July was 10 months ago, this would be May.
I got my 240SX in August of 2001, and had done SR20 research for the 6 months before that while I tried to find a 240SX and save up money for the SR20. I was into this stuff WAYYY before the SCC generation, but I'm still here, helping out the community. I posted before you, provided good info, and if you read up on turbo pages, a lot of companies do call turbo manifolds, "turbo header." And please, don't say I don't know what I'm talking about, I did give the first "real" response in this thread.
If you don't like how we are treating you, you know since we did single you out and are oppressing you, press the little black x at the top right of your window and never return.
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i know for a fact that you will come back to see what people wrote in response. in fact you're probably checking for responses every few minutes, and you may not write anything back, but I know you'll read this.it's human nature, and it's ok, but do me one favor. grab that big pole, hold on to it with a firm grip, and just pull it right our of your bottom. give it a mighty good yank. a real strong one. then the relaxed position you will find yourself in, may give you a better perspective regarding issues on the forums and in your own personal life. and your math skills may also improve.
not that it matters so much, but you saying that you've been reading the posts for 9 months, and me becoming a member last august makes it... well you count the months: aug, sept, oct, nov. dec, jan, feb, march, apr...going into may, that's 9, and soon to be 10. how you figure that you've been on this forum longer than me is somewhat puzzling. many of us have been reading this forum for a long time before becoming members. and it's not so much the issue of who's been here longer, but...why are you such a tool? I was just making a joke, not flaming anyone with my posts. and now here you are making fun of the guy, right before you try to cover with saying "oh I hope I didn't make ya feel to stupid" and explaining the term "NA" to him in terms which make him feel like a complete idiot. yes, he said header. did you know that some people say "turbo header" instead of "turbo manifold"? did you notice that some people already corrected him? nooo.... you had to restate/repeat the obvious and even branch off into NA. and you didn't even go point by point, answering his questions like others who REALLY helped him did. I'm not saying it's because of your lack of knowledge on anything besides the definitions of "header" and "NA". but it could be...
now my ego may be decently sized for a guy my age, but i do think that a joke may relieve some of the stress people like you give the noob for asking questions which may or may not be trivial. you see? i hope you see. but maybe that pole is still wedged in there pretty tight and it's swollen up so far that it's blocking your vision. give it another yank.
sil80
not that it matters so much, but you saying that you've been reading the posts for 9 months, and me becoming a member last august makes it... well you count the months: aug, sept, oct, nov. dec, jan, feb, march, apr...going into may, that's 9, and soon to be 10. how you figure that you've been on this forum longer than me is somewhat puzzling. many of us have been reading this forum for a long time before becoming members. and it's not so much the issue of who's been here longer, but...why are you such a tool? I was just making a joke, not flaming anyone with my posts. and now here you are making fun of the guy, right before you try to cover with saying "oh I hope I didn't make ya feel to stupid" and explaining the term "NA" to him in terms which make him feel like a complete idiot. yes, he said header. did you know that some people say "turbo header" instead of "turbo manifold"? did you notice that some people already corrected him? nooo.... you had to restate/repeat the obvious and even branch off into NA. and you didn't even go point by point, answering his questions like others who REALLY helped him did. I'm not saying it's because of your lack of knowledge on anything besides the definitions of "header" and "NA". but it could be...
now my ego may be decently sized for a guy my age, but i do think that a joke may relieve some of the stress people like you give the noob for asking questions which may or may not be trivial. you see? i hope you see. but maybe that pole is still wedged in there pretty tight and it's swollen up so far that it's blocking your vision. give it another yank.
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HAHA, god this thread got good after I left. We dont persecute new people, they just need to figure out how to learn the obvious for themselves.
I am just about in the same boat as Buud as far as timing is concerned, I studied before I had a 240SX and I somehow I didnt manage to ask redundant questions when the answers could easily be found by "SEARCHING." ALOT of what I learned was from the internet, some from Japanese HyperRev's & mags, with extremely little from actual shops. Its all out there already, if someone is too dumb to run a good search then maybe they should seek guidance elsewhere.
HAHA, jk, im not that mean but still, at least say you searched far and wide before asking an open question thats been asked plenty of times.
I am just about in the same boat as Buud as far as timing is concerned, I studied before I had a 240SX and I somehow I didnt manage to ask redundant questions when the answers could easily be found by "SEARCHING." ALOT of what I learned was from the internet, some from Japanese HyperRev's & mags, with extremely little from actual shops. Its all out there already, if someone is too dumb to run a good search then maybe they should seek guidance elsewhere.
HAHA, jk, im not that mean but still, at least say you searched far and wide before asking an open question thats been asked plenty of times.
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hah i couldnt help it, but here i go, straighting out you misundrestanding of what i wrote.
first, i rounded up the extra couple of weeks in the 9 month period to 10 months. and forgot to double check.
second, i said you dont know what your talking about if u think me helping was flaming. i never said u were incompetent
and im happy for you that u have so much experience under your belt with 240sx's. im somewhat new to understanding the 240sx, but not new auotmotively. i have worked with other cars, mostly rotary and domestics, and prefer new things. so dont talk like your tough sh*t.
i never said anything about u, i just mentioned that ppl who wernt helping should. then u came in out of no where and wanted to be the big man on this thread.
and sorry but i dont get intimidated easily so ill deny your request for me to X out my screen. thanks though
first, i rounded up the extra couple of weeks in the 9 month period to 10 months. and forgot to double check.
second, i said you dont know what your talking about if u think me helping was flaming. i never said u were incompetent
and im happy for you that u have so much experience under your belt with 240sx's. im somewhat new to understanding the 240sx, but not new auotmotively. i have worked with other cars, mostly rotary and domestics, and prefer new things. so dont talk like your tough sh*t.
i never said anything about u, i just mentioned that ppl who wernt helping should. then u came in out of no where and wanted to be the big man on this thread.
and sorry but i dont get intimidated easily so ill deny your request for me to X out my screen. thanks though
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times change, my questions were mostly related to new ways of doing things. sil80 i got an idea why dont u copy half of buuds post and repeat it. i know u look up to him and all. o and thanx for pointing out my math, i guess i really am dumb, or maybe it was just a mistake, why dont u keep dwelling on it, maybe u can go to sleep later tonight
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BuudWeizErr wrote:, a lot of companies do call turbo manifolds, "turbo header." And please, don't say I don't know what I'm talking about, I did give the first "real" response in this thread.
Bud you are right on almost all counts, if I could object..
1.) While MANY turbo-manifold manufactures use the term header and Manifold interchangeably, for the purpose of this board header (normaly) refers to NA headers, and Manifold to Turbo-manifold. To make it specific to everyone, especialy when dealing with new members, I would HAVE to say that Manifold is the preferable term.
2.) While i did not go in-depth whatsoever, I call my response "real". I could easily have said "SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH" or "Depends Depends Depends" I gave some short reasoning for each not-helpful answer. So please, Defer the first "real" post to me.
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and if anyone cares, im not some uptight a$$ who waits for someone to be an *** and then correct him on his manner. yea jokes are funny, but not when almost everyone makes fun and doesnt really give any hard info. and i agree with cyber, about the header and exhaust manifold deal, which was related more to noobs than the master technician. but if you all want to fine pick everyhthing i say and elaborate on it go on, knock yourself out. im having a good time anyways