How do you put S15 OEM fenders on an S14?

[The Inflicted]

I've asked this question in a lot of smaller threads but I haven't got an answer and I need one as quickly as possible-

How difficult is it to put steel OEM S15 fenders on an S14? What needs to be done? Is it a bolt-on affair or is it like an S13 where the four fenders must be cut in half and re-welded?

Pictures or links to pages with a full explanation would be very much appreciated.

[Dittoz7]

Steel?

[The Inflicted]

Yes, the OEM fenders are steel.

[300sx]

Not sure if its the same..maybe similar to the s14

s13 to s15

http://www.nicoclub.com/articles.php?id=246123

[kornaz]

Measure, cut, weld, shave, repeat if u fugged it up. Not a bolt on sh1t.

[The Inflicted]

Not a bolt on

That's what I needed to know. Thanks!

[Kckouki]

String and DUCK TAPE !!!!!

[RPS13.5]

S14.5 is a lot easier than S13.5 fenders.

[The Inflicted]

S14.5 is a lot easier than S13.5 fenders.

Why is that? If they are both specifically-made conversion fenders, why would one be harder than another?

[StricNyne]

he means get oem s15 fenders and cut and weld them onto your s14 not the fiberglass replacements

[FeintMind]

he means get oem s15 fenders and cut and weld them onto your s14 not the fiberglass replacements

and I would assume that its because the lines of s14s are closer to that of s15's than s13's are to s15's... if that made any sense.

[sci2000tech]

I just took the easy way out and used a hammer/sawzaw to "persuade" the fenders to fit on my s13

when I get a DD and turn the s13 into a track/weekend fun car, I'll do the whole cut and weld thing with a set of s13 fenders. For now, they will do.



^^^sad thing is that the fitment of the OEM s15 fenders is quite a bit better than that of half the fiberglass conversion fenders made for the s13, and much more durable at that.

I have been through 3 sets of fiberglass fenders and will not make that mistake again. The gaps inbetween the fender and hood were around an inch wide, the fenders would rub against the door when I opened it, and the headlights didn't even come close to sitting flush with the fenders.

From a distance, the only noticable gap it at the top of the fender by the door.



Keep in mind this is all for the s13. I have never done the conversion on an s14, but I would be willing to bet that there aren't very many differences.

[slide4satan]

just curious why is the inside fender well part of your front bumper not painted? and whats the cancer towards the top of the side skirt? rust?

[sci2000tech]

The inside of the bumper isn't painted because I ran out of paint But I paint my car like twice a year, so I'll be sure to get an extra quart of paint this time around

The part right above the sideskirt is part of the "hammering" process I had to do to make my door open. There is also a chunk of the fender that I had to cut off that is covered by the sideskirt. Other than that, I just drilled a few holes and bolted it up.

I havn't decided if I should bondo the messed up part of the fender or if I should just wait untill I get some s13 fenders to play around with. I just have to get better at welding first.

[The Inflicted]

Cutting and welding isn't really an option for me so I suppose I'll be looking into the conversion fenders.

Does anyone here have any actual experience with an S14.5 conversion?

[RPS13.5]

We do, and I've done it. The best works you can find S13.5, S14.5, S14.33, S14.180 (S15.180 rare) metal fenders conversions. I also do Honda front end conversions as well. Then all you need is paint job which I dont do.

[bt2s14]

Zipties

[nisstek]

Do you mean putting a Kouki front on a Zenki. Or do you mean putting an S15 front on a Kouki. I cant help you with that one. But the Zenki to Kouki swap is all bolt on. You'll need the headlight brackets and the bumper bracket that goes on top of the steel bumper under the bumper cover. And of course, you'll need the hood, headlights, fenders, and bumper cover. A little wiring and paint to match and your done. If you are looking for a show car, stay away from the S15 conversions unless you got lots of patience and moolah.

[CRyan]

Do you mean putting a Kouki front on a Zenki. Or do you mean putting an S15 front on a Kouki. I cant help you with that one. But the Zenki to Kouki swap is all bolt on. You'll need the headlight brackets and the bumper bracket that goes on top of the steel bumper under the bumper cover. And of course, you'll need the hood, headlights, fenders, and bumper cover. A little wiring and paint to match and your done. If you are looking for a show car, stay away from the S15 conversions unless you got lots of patience and moolah.

I do think he is putting an S15 fender on an S14. . . zenki or kouki. . .Because. . .the kouki. . .isn't an S15?

Wish I could help - but I'm not the guy to talk about body work, the most I've done is help rattle can a car. . .and it was horrible. haha

[The Inflicted]

I do think he is putting an S15 fender on an S14. . . zenki

Exactly.Here is my build thread: zer...age=2

[The Inflicted]

Well I just bought an entire S15 front end, including the fenders.

Anyone have any guides to where I should cut and weld them if I go that route?

[The Inflicted]

Alright, I've got both sets of fenders now.I really need some more information about where I cut and how long the finished fenders are supposed to be from end to end.

Does anyone have a link to a page with this kind of information, or pictures, or something I can use?

[kornaz]

Ask One Ton Garage. He did some sick fitting at least on a s13.

[Toast]

Here is what you have to do to mate up the S14 fender and S15 fender.



The blue are where you make the cuts. The orange is the direction to pull to make them come together. The S15 fender is thiner at the top of the wheel well, hence the need to cut and pull the S14.

I wish I could have found an old pic I had saved that showed this done and welded waiting to be painted but it is aparently long gone. My memory is not thank god. I'll showing love to another s14.5 build. I was going to do this to mine aswell but when carbon fiber conversion fenders. Copies of the mesa over fenders but in carbon fiber. If you have any more questions man let me know.
Modified by Toast at 6:05 AM 4/7/2008

[The Inflicted]

I hope there's some flexibility in where the cut has to be made, as my passenger-side fender was mangled pretty badly in the crash.

Of course, it's not a terribly difficult thing to track down another passenger-side S14 stock fender.

[The Inflicted]

I called a local custom car place today and they referred me to a guy they said specialized in body part welding. He said that he's done the job before and to do it would take $300-$350.

Does this sound reasonable? Because for that price I can get conversion fenders.

[dickie]

http://www.nicoclub.com/articles.php?id=246123

the principal is the same. does anyone bother to read this stuff?

[The Inflicted]

My car isn't an S13. When you cut S14 fenders to mate them to S15 fenders you cut at the top of the wheel arch, not at the rear.

That link you posted isn't really relevant here.

[The Inflicted]

Any luck on finding that picture, Toast?

I took it to a fender guy who had been reccomended to me and he didn't think the S14 and S15 fender could be matched up.

I really need someone from this forum who has experience in doing this sort of thing.My project is stalled until I get some help.

[dickie]

cut and weld dude, is that not relevant enough for you?