How Do I Make The Best Drifting Car

[nick]

common sense says not to get huge rims because the tires are going to be more expensive to replace and youre basically asking to eat up tires by drifting...

[F4ucc]

I would say 16" rim is probably a good choise since lots of people just can't live with Small rims, Look seems a primarily issue for them........although I don't really care.

Have you ever checked Old Option Magazines??In early 90s most S13 JP people run 15", why? easy to spin and cost less for tires, somehow they can destroy 2-3 pair of tires in one night.

My case, one pair of tires only last one day in drift event.( I am still far from good drifter though.)

Yeah, with a SR20DET you could spin those fat tires, in addition 17" maybe 18" rims give you great stability at High Speed, but do you really carry high speed drfit at 3th or 4th gear??

In state, the only guy the I know can do that is Alex from Battle Version. In fact, he just won the third place from the first official drifting even host by option in So. Cal with a blown head gasket otherwise he would win the first place)

If you still have a hard time to manage a 2nd gear long drift, for example a 2nd gear big circle, then forget about going with huge rims as they only give you nothing but trouble.

By the way, I am running 205/55/15 either Kumho Ecsta or Dunlop FM 901 with Watanabe RS-8 rims. my suspension setup is :Tokico HTS 45-way adj shock plus kg/mm S-21 springs with Cusco camber plates. Cusco front and rear OS bars with some Nismo bushingsKaaz 2way LSD plus some Mis parts that I can't recall.

Well, just my thought.

Cheers

[180crafter]

Wanna drift?...

Get a Civic, go to another forum.

[F4ucc]

CIVIC??

a handicapped FF just doesn't fit this category.

[180crafter]

Neither does this ricer guy....

[F4ucc]

Sigh, feel really sad, people just don't really can take something new..........another STRAIGHT LINE DRAG ONLY guy??

Sorry, I guess I am bit too old to keep going.............

later

[180crafter]

O'contrare my quick-to-jump-to-conclusions friend, I do not believe in straight line driving.

I drift, but drifting cannot be answered by just naming some parts and losing control. Drifting is more than just being with what is cool, or what is in the magazines kids read. Drifting is an art, a skill, a mastery of machine. No other form of racing shows the direct relationship between a man (or woman{why can't I find a woman who is stupid enough to drift a car}) and his machine.

Relax gramps... this is not worth a heart-attack.

[pissedoffsol]

its kinda like reading up on IwantToBeAPainter.com

you can't learn to paint by reading about it- its a skill that must be learned.

and don't send him to my honda site. lol

[F4ucc]

Crafter.

In fact, I totally agree with your point.

Well, maybe we should share some more about this ART.Wondering if you've ever participated in any drifting event?There will be two events in both Nor. Cal and So. Cal on 25th Jan.Good chance to sharpen your skill though.

BTW, do you happend to know Alex P??

later

oldest member in Battle Swing

[s13sr20det red top]

(crafer) I do understand that drifting is an art form and its all the driver and not the parts but did you just call me a ricer ?????

[Matthew]

Quote »I have a 90 240sx and this summer im getting the sr20 swaped into it but after that i need to know what do i do to make it the best drifting car out on my streets????? what parts do i need????[/quote]1) Access to a computer where you can ask questions about how to be more JDM.2) An Option2 bumper sticker3) Nismo Anything you can get your hands on4)A sr20det, as everyone knows it is impossible to be an elite drifter with a ka24de5)Snow on the ground.

Quote »did you just call me a ricer ?????[/quote] If he didnt, i will.Here's why: You asked how to make a drift car. Not how to make a car handle more neutral, or a setup that would help induce lift-over steer, or how to set it up so more weight transfer foward during braking. Nor did you ask anything about how to become a better driver, nothing about auto-x, HPDE's or any other type of driving school. Lot of people need to realize that calling yourself a "drifter" while doing dohnuts and powerslides requires and demonstrates absolutely no car control.I would bet my life that anyone racing a 240sx in Improved Touring could out-"drift" any of you wet parking lot warriors.

[s13sr20det red top]

Who the hell is this guy settle down i jsut asked a questen i was woundering what performance parts i need for a 240sx so when im drifting i dont brake a 12 year old part and buy the way power sliding in the snow is fun as hell

[christopher]

Hey now, you have to start somewhere. So he is enthusiastic, good. Why flame him.

s13sr20det red top, I say have fun, ingnore the negative s***. Just don't break your car. I can't drift for my life, so I don't. Try it, if you can, kill the competition.

hehe.

[s13sr20det red top]

thats what i like to here thanks man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[yeswepromise]

s13sr20det red top--- just do some reading on the internet or magazines to find out different techniques and different parts available and most importantly just go out and practice. if you want to be good at drifting then you have to go practice. something i have noticed is that its becoming rather pointless to ask questions when you are new to a board because you have the people on here who are just gonna be ***holes and call you stupid ricer and other things.if you really want to drift then go do it. all these people who call the n00b drifters were once new so keep that in mind. its getting rather hard to find any help from people so i guess just try to learn on your own. here is some advice i will offer to you. i would say to work on the footworks first. you can worry about engine mods later. i would say get coilovers, L.S.D., wheels, tires, and other little suspension parts. things are going to break and wear out quick so make sure you have extra parts or extra money to replace things. get chassis strengthing parts also. look for cusco and do luck products, they make a lot of parts for s13 and s14. have fun learning and goodluck.

[180crafter]

F4ucc:

If by participate you mean that I have gotten with a bunch if misfit buddies and tested our unappreciated skills, then yes. See, unfortunately, I live in Miami, FL. The most racing action that isnt kids in Civics at lights and old Mustangs is an Auto-X event at the local Zoo.

Im actually trying to see about the zoning at the decomissioned Homestead Air Force Base. I would love to turn that into a course and invite Auto-X and Drifting competitions.

Maybe add a skate park.

[Yellow_FC]

If your just gonna hate on someone who doesn't really understand what they are talking about, but is atleast trying, why do you even bother posting a flame? Its hard being a newbie, and hard asking questions when everyones so knowledgable, so try making it a little easier on the kid and just ignore him if you dont like him, or try and answer his question nicely.

S13sr20det red top ---- says your in chinatown..which one?

ok all, lates...

[180crafter]

Its not really a flame. You guys took it too hard.

If your going to ask what makes a drifting car, then you have no idea what it is to be a drifter. You shouldn't be asking "What happens when you shoot someone?", and then have a Semi-Auto AK47 in your hand. If you have all the parts in your car, but dont know how to drive, then all you'll end up with is a pile of expensive parts.

I agree with the "start somewhere" premise. Buy some used coilovers, some cheap, light hubcap-holders and a 5hit load of tires. Practice. Practice. Practice. You dont need parts, you need skill.

Art takes only one thing.... Practice. Keep trying.

[Cyberkreig]

180 .. you came off harsh, but i definatly see your side of it.

To ask the question "What do i need to drift" is being ignorant about drifting. A RWD car, a safe parking lot, and enough money to replace your tires and pay your tickets.

I think thats what you were getting at.. Or you could get a Honda, roll it up on some cookie sheets and pull the handbrake like these guys: http://www.traysliding.com/

=)

[alexar55]

I "started learning" on my old completely stock S14 with an open diff at a Duane Reade parking lot at 2 am. It sucks for us city guys. I say learn "grip" first, learn how to shift well, have good clutch control, go to Auto-X, etc. Forget about parts even if you spend all your money on JIC and Nismo stuff it still won't help for your first time, and about 10 dozen times after that.

I can tell you this if you've never drifted and get behind the wheel you forget everything you saw in Option videos because you can't just picture yourself doing it. You need to overcome your natural habits first. This is why IMO practice is so important.

'90 240SX SR Project

[C-Kwik]

O'contrare my quick-to-jump-to-conclusions friend, I do not believe in straight line driving.

I drift, but drifting cannot be answered by just naming some parts and losing control. Drifting is more than just being with what is cool, or what is in the magazines kids read. Drifting is an art, a skill, a mastery of machine. No other form of racing shows the direct relationship between a man (or woman{why can't I find a woman who is stupid enough to drift a car}) and his machine.

Relax gramps... this is not worth a heart-attack.

Since when is drifting considered racing. It's a show of driver's skill, but does not make it any more difficult than other types of automotive activities. Whether it is drag racing, road racing, autocross, drifting, rally racing, hell, even a tractor pull or a monster truck rally. All of them require driver's skill to be competitive. All in different ways, but I would never say one is any more difficult than another. Consider that even with the simple concept of drag racing, all the drivers will have an easy time getting down the track quickly. But it's those valuable tiny parts of a second that make the difference between winning and losing. If you realized how close a race could be from such a small difference in a reaction time. Remember, you are not necessarily racing a clock. You are racing others that might actually be better than you are.

Regardless, your view is quite subjective. What you think is great in the world is not what others do. And should not be. I do not drift. I find it timulating to watch, but care not to destroy my tires. I do like driving in road race events. And requires just as much skill to be fast. Or perhaps you are being as ignorant as S13SR? Or is it that difficult to be a good citizen and just answer a question. It seemed like a rather honest question to me.

"If you have nothing nice to say, then don't say nothing"

[180crafter]

OOOHHHHH C-Kwik.

Good point. Actually, Drifting is a race. A race against a clock. Pro-drifters (of which I am NOT) race against a clock through a course using only drifting techniques. They are not only trying for the times, but also for "style" points. I have no friggin idea how they judge it.

I dont only drift. I do Auto-X (as you read above) and even do some stupid street runs.

I am being a good citizen. I am saving this guy a whole lotta money buy telling him what is NECESSARY to drift and not having him waste his money buying 5hit he is going to break. The most important thing is to practice, not having some shiny metal peices and being broke.

And thats why I said its not really a flame, more kinda like a stern Public Service Announcement.

[zeek]

Look if that is what you meant 180 why not say that I am new to this forum too and have been looking to Auto X. I want to replace my 93 SE-R with something Nissan and something affordable but people posting flames like you make me want to change my mind and Buy a Toyota. I have had a nissan since I started driving and maybe you forgot what it was like to not know anything about a particular car or anything in General. I also would like to know why you have to bash the kid for asking a question is it cause you have a low self esteem? As for the rest of you I am here looking for any insights I can get BTW the Datsun 110LB was a very well balanced car with no power how is the 240SX and what mods need to be done to make it better?

[C-Kwik]

OOOHHHHH C-Kwik.

Good point. Actually, Drifting is a race. A race against a clock. Pro-drifters (of which I am NOT) race against a clock through a course using only drifting techniques. They are not only trying for the times, but also for "style" points. I have no friggin idea how they judge it.

I dont only drift. I do Auto-X (as you read above) and even do some stupid street runs.

I am being a good citizen. I am saving this guy a whole lotta money buy telling him what is NECESSARY to drift and not having him waste his money buying 5hit he is going to break. The most important thing is to practice, not having some shiny metal peices and being broke.

And thats why I said its not really a flame, more kinda like a stern Public Service Announcement.

Yes, but times are only a way to tell how fast a person is drifting. If it were a race, I'd enter a drifting contest, drive "grip-style" have a kick-*** time, and take the winnings. But it's not an actual race so I wouldn't be able to win like that.

I didn't say you didn't and I did see your comment about Auto-Xing. But you should then know that in an Auto-X competition the driver's are very good and their skills, quick reflexes, concentration, precision timing and smooth movements all lead to better times. These are the same skills used in drifting, and pretty much any other racing. You can be opinionated, but respect the skill required to race competetively. I don't like watching NASCAR myself, but respect the drivers that can do it well.

Instead of making it a stern public service announcement, perhaps state your opinion or fact and the reasons why you think that. And this really goes for a lot of people in many forums. Many are quick to answer with short replies to a very honest question. Is it the person's fault they don't know? Ignorance is excusable. To leave it alone not educate the ignorant is hypocritical. I'm no saint myself, but I do find it's typically much more productive to answer a question than see another flaming session where nothing gets accomplished.

Well I'm getting off-topic...so I'll leave off with that.

[Dori Dori]

The most important thing you need is skills. With that, you can drift anything.