How do I calibrate the Low Fuel/Low Washer miles left screen?

[Infinitiguy19]

I have a 1993 q45 with both low fuel/washer fluid sensors that work but when it says low washer/fuel it says like 200-300 miles left and I know thats not true for the fuel becasue the low fuel activates at 2.5 gallons which is aabout 40 mile left not 200 miles so am I stuck with it saying low washer/fluid 200 mile or can that be fixed?

also It goes down the amount of mile depending how far I go.

Just to let Brian and q45tech know I only let the fuel level go that low once to tet it but I usually keep it above half a tank.

[qship96]

Wow, what the hell are you trying to say?

[Q45tech]

Oem doesn't have miles to empty. The intank sensor [its verticle sensor position in tank] approximates 2.5 gallons unless it was moved during a fuel pump replacement.

Measure the volume and slope'shape of the tank..........guessimating 1" ~~ 1.25 gallons so the sensor is off the bottom by ~~ 2".

You would need a perfectly empty tank and progressively fill and measure to get the exat level amount.

The fuel sock might suck air at 1" so the 2" is probably wrong and the engine might stall when 1 gallon or 1.5 gallons remain.

MAYBE the sensor is set for 3.0 or 3.5 gallons since the last 1.0 cannot be pumped.

When I first bought Q I tested and was able to refill 21.0 gallons [1.5 in tank] that was as risky as I got...............I had 3 gallons in a plastic gas can and drove until it sputtered. My warning came on at ~~ 20.0 gallons [+- 0.5].

The other problem is driving with the gasoline shifting side to side as the rear undulates.

[ddrumman]

Wow, what the hell are you trying to say?

[Q45tech]

Both of these liquid sensors work the exact same way when the liquid level drops below the sensor, an internal float drops and completes the ground circuit.

Confusion sets in when you see this alternate [flash] between 2 codes and return to distance numeric.

[qship96]

Confusion sets in when you see this alternate [flash] between 2 codes and return to distance numeric.

Only for those either unable to comprehend the owners manual, or too lazy to obtain one or read it?

Always shocks me how one can own anything as complex as a automobile and not have/read/understand the owners manual {same goes for audio components}

[Infinitiguy19]

Sorry about the confusion (qship96) but here is a pic of what I mean:

Also I think that the "miles left" as I worded it is actually the Trip Odometer right? The miles left which i say above is the "A; xxx,x MILE
Modified by Paul Wall at 10:19 PM 10/10/2009

[qship96]

Both mile counters{A & B}, are just that...mile counters that you can reset by twisting the knob to reset to zero- neither A or B mile counter has ANY other function other than to count up miles driven since last reset by twisting the knob.....they have NO relation to amount of fuel in tank or anything else other than counting miles driven since you last reset them.

[Infinitiguy19]

ok but on my q45 when it says low washer/fuel it also starts to count. Like it would say 200 miles then 198, 197 so thats normal?

[Haitian_King]

ok but on my q45 when it says low washer/fuel it also starts to count. Like it would say 200 miles then 198, 197 so thats normal?

I've never let my tank get that low. I wasn't aware that there was a message.

For the longest, my display gave me the stop lamp error. Turns out it was a bulb in the 3rd lamp. (There are two.)

Now, I get my trip meter counting the miles and it goes from numbers to "OK". On occasion, it goes back to the stop lamp error and then back to normal. Since the bulbs have been replaced, I'm thinking it could be a wire issue now.

[RAP]

Only for those either unable to comprehend the owners manual, or too lazy to obtain one or read it?

Always shocks me how one can own anything as complex as a automobile and not have/read/understand the owners manual {same goes for audio components}

Welllll lets see now; About half the country is populated by Chicks? They own cars. Have you ever tried to discuss/show them anything about cars? Except operating the radio/audio of course.

Personally, I haven't mastered the headlight switch yet. I suppose my mind just rebels against such a stupid switch?

Oh well... Ah gess weuns all got oua shorttcummins.

Jack

[maxnix]

1.) I've never let my tank get that low. I wasn't aware that there was a message.

2.) For the longest, my display gave me the stop lamp error. Turns out it was a bulb in the 3rd lamp. (There are two.)

Since the bulbs have been replaced, I'm thinking it could be a wire issue now.

1.) Good. Always fill at ¼ tank level.

2.) Did you use OEM or Sylvania LL? If so, examine wiring and socket. If not, replace with such and discard non-specification bulbs.

[Haitian_King]

1.) Good. Always fill at ¼ tank level.

2.) Did you use OEM or Sylvania LL? If so, examine wiring and socket. If not, replace with such and discard non-specification bulbs.

You know what? I'm not sure if they were. Keith told me that it was a common problem and told me that that the problem was in the bulb wattages. He said that there were 3 bulbs of the same size but with different power draws and that's what could have been causing it. He had a large box with partitions for each bulb wattage. I don't know if they were Sylvania bulbs. I'll have to go look at mine.

[maxnix]

Man, I just realized that ppastos thinks there is an odometer warning for washer fluid level. How could that be since it is not mileage but weather dependent?

There are two trip odometers.

[Infinitiguy19]

what do you mean weather dependent you arnt fooling with me are you

But at least you understand me I tried hard to explain it as easy as possible.

[StarPD]

what do you mean weather dependent you arnt fooling with me are you

But at least you understand me I tried hard to explain it as easy as possible.

1. There is nothing on a stock G50 that tells you whether the washer fluid is low or not.2. There is nothing on a stock G50 that tells you miles to empty.3. There is no "screen" on a stock G50, only indicators in the dash display that tell speed, coolant temp, fuel level, total miles traveled, and two trip odometers that allow miles traveled from zero for two trip functions, along with assorted warning symbols that illuminate when necessary.

If you have some sort of auxilliary "screen" that provides information beyond those things, it is aftermarket, and it's doubtful that anyone here can help you with it.

[Infinitiguy19]

Ok but what I was trying to say was that when the low fuel/ washer is displayed right. the trip odometer starts going down like it says 274 miles (which is my current odometer reading) but then it goes down to 273 miles, 272 miles and so on so what I'm saying is that the odemeter counts down or goes down when the low fuel/washer is displayed. Any ideas?

[maxnix]

Odometer should only increase until they roll over.

[GseaQ]

1. There is nothing on a stock G50 that tells you whether the washer fluid is low or not.2. There is nothing on a stock G50 that tells you miles to empty.3. There is no "screen" on a stock G50, only indicators in the dash display that tell speed, coolant temp, fuel level, total miles traveled, and two trip odometers that allow miles traveled from zero for two trip functions, along with assorted warning symbols that illuminate when necessary.

Actually, both our '92 & '95 show us a "LOW WASHER" message in place of the "B" trip odo reading when the fluid's low. The '92 has just started showing the "LOW FUEL" message with about 1.5-2.0 gallaons left in the tank. It never did with the first 3 or 4 fuel pumps (I guess the first one did, but that was before I owned it). The '95 has never shown the "LOW FUEL" message (for us), even though I ran it as low as I dared and it took 20 gallons. Maybe if I went further, but there's really no need.

[GseaQ]

Ok but what I was trying to say was that when the low fuel/ washer is displayed right. the trip odometer starts going down like it says 274 miles (which is my current odometer reading) but then it goes down to 273 miles, 272 miles and so on so what I'm saying is that the odemeter counts down or goes down when the low fuel/washer is displayed. Any ideas?

That's bizarre. Sorry, I never heard of this before.

[Haitian_King]

Ok but what I was trying to say was that when the low fuel/ washer is displayed right. the trip odometer starts going down like it says 274 miles (which is my current odometer reading) but then it goes down to 273 miles, 272 miles and so on so what I'm saying is that the odemeter counts down or goes down when the low fuel/washer is displayed. Any ideas?

You sure you have a Q?

I've never seen that happen in my Q. The numbers only increase, unless you reset to zero. Then it only goes up again. There's no countdown that I know of.

My only question about the display when I first got the Q was the speed that the miles racked up. I never thought that I drove that much. I thought that the miles were being counted too quickly, but they turned out to be quite accurate.

[Infinitiguy19]

c'mon no need for post jacking or rude remarks (Hatian King) I will try and get some video if i can.

[maxnix]

Odometer running backwards is way weird.

[qship96]

Wonder if he is driving in REVERSE?

[Infinitiguy19]

I see we have a maxnix wanna be but at least maxnix helps.

[Q45tech]

Some Posts and counter posts just prove who is lying about reading and studying FSM or has a lower level of mental accuity or comprehension of printed English.

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[qship96]

How could anyone help with a fanthom problem that has never surfaced in the 19 years the g50 has been on the road? Yours must be Xtra special?

[StarPD]

Some Posts and counter posts just prove who is lying about reading and studying FSM or has a lower level of mental accuity or comprehension of printed English.

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I stand corrected regarding the "low W/S washer fluid" warning. Never let mine get low enough to have it illuminate, and failed to read the FSM cover to cover and memorize it. I stand by the rest of my comments, unless anyone can show me where I'm wrong. Please do.

And please enlighten me on the trip odometers reading "miles to empty" when the low W/S washer fluid illuminates or the "low fuel" warning light comes on, much less counts down as the miles progress. Maybe my '94 Q45t was defective and I didn't know it.

[maxnix]

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Brake Pad Sensor?

[ddrumman]

I guess I should get some "stabilant 22" and hit every contact. I've definitely run out of washer fluid, and have NEVER seen the "low washer" message.