"Hot Coffee" & Tort Reform

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R/T Hemi
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IBCoupe wrote:Holy crap, we're back to straw men.

First: the system isn't broken. That we protect your privacy from anybody that might "want to sue" you isn't a bug; it's a feature.


Protecting my privacy isn't the issue here. Let's stay on point okay?
IBCoupe wrote: Second: if you can find me saying that lawyers never file frivolous lawsuits, I'll concede the debate. Go ahead, right now. I'll put it in my signature and march around the forums for a month like that.
We're getting somewhere, You're admitting the system is broken.


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R/T Hemi wrote:Here's some more straw men supporting your claim that the system ain't broke.....
That wasn't what "straw man" referred to. These will be the last two cases I put effort in for you. I'm tired of your crap.
R/T Hemi wrote:In 1998, Kellogg sued Exxon because customers might confuse the gas station's "whimsical tiger logo" with Kellogg's mascot, "Tony the Tiger." It didn't matter, of course, that Exxon had already been using this logo for 30 years. A federal court tossed the suit. Kellogg appealed the case claiming the Exxon tiger walks and acts just like Kellogg's "Tony."
Tony the Tiger: Established in 1952
Kellogg contends Exxon retired its tiger in the 1980s, but then came out with new ads in the 1990s featuring a revised tiger promoting various food and convenience items sold at Exxon gas stations.
That's what went up Kellogg's butt. Think it's possible that any of the foods conflicted with something Kellogg's put its name on?

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R/T Hemi wrote:In 2003, Richard Schick sued his former employer, the Illinois Department of Public Aid. Schick sought $5 million plus $166,700 in back pay for sexual and disability discrimination. In fact, Shick was so stressed by this discrimination that he robbed a convenience store with a shotgun. A jury felt his pain and awarded him the money he was seeking. The decision was then reversed. Unfortunately, the $303,830 he was still awarded isn't doing him much good during the ten years he's serving for armed robbery.
What do his other actions have to do with the merits of his case? Even if your account is on the level, he wasn't awarded $300,000 for robbing a convenience store.
R/T Hemi wrote:This is all fine in your book right? It ain't broke because the cases got tossed, fails to address the real issue.

Admit there are problems with the system then we'll move on to how to fix it.
The rare problems aren't worth fixing. They're minor, and every proposed "fix" will make matters worse. We do not have a tort system that needs reform. Eventually, you're going to give up or come up with a compelling argument. Could we just cut to the chase?

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R/T Hemi wrote:Protecting my privacy isn't the issue here. Let's stay on point okay?
Would you at least have the integrity to read my posts? I read yours.
R/T Hemi wrote:We're getting somewhere, You're admitting the system is broken.
I said as much [EDIT: that frivolous lawsuits exist] on the first f*** page. We have literally come full circle on your crazy merry-go-round.

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IBCoupe wrote: The rare problems aren't worth fixing. They're minor, and every proposed "fix" will make matters worse. We do not have a tort system that needs reform. Eventually, you're going to give up or come up with a compelling argument. Could we just cut to the chase?
Rare, Minor? Are you to be the judge of that? You have changed your thrust here more than moist people change shirts on a hot day. First, "it's not broke, well it might be broke a little, well, it's minor and rare."

That's called turntable posting. You link a series of invalid points together, point to them and call them insignificant and claim your opponent has nothing to offer. Quantity over quality isn't working, you should change course.

In fact. I've presented example after example of a broken system. You've posted pretty pictures as a response. Your response is not unlike a car owner selling a used car as "perfect", except the air conditioner doesn't work, some times the cruise control exhibits some unwanted acceleration, and of course, it pulls hard to the left when braking, and the fuel leaks some, but otherwise, it runs perfect."

I'm not buying your rare and minor claim. Not one bit. Google frivolous lawsuits - hits About 774,000 results (0.15 seconds) Rare indeed.

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IBCoupe wrote:Given both of those, ban away, Z; I'm tired of this crap.
Done.

Thanks for the ammo. :rolleyes:

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Thread is now locked too.

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R/T Hemi wrote:@ Z, don't ban him, I'm not taking it personal. I appreciate he's frustrated. It's not the first time I've been called a condescending prick on the internet. LOL
Thanks for the thought, Hemi, but no.

I do appreciate IBCoupe's presence in this forum, but personal attacks cannot be accepted by me. Others have complained too, including moderators (one decided to stop posting here, and I decided to ignore personal insults directed to me in another thread). He was warned here and chose to continue the actions.

He is gone for two weeks - if he continues with personal attacks when he returns (if he chooses to - it is his decision), the ban will become permanent.

I am truly sorry to make this so public, but ... :(

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