Hoses Behind Head

Post by **NISTECH** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:45 pm

you dont need the puller if the pry bar/very long screwdriver method works. you place one on each side of the pulley between the pulley and the front cover and gently with slight force against the pulley rock it back and forth and it will work off. now i am in california and the underside of the cars out here dont look like they have some sort of cancer ( heavy corrosion) so this works very easily. but if you have lots of rust all over under your car this will not work

Post by **red_240sx** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:45 pm

Well i got a pulley puller from AutoZone. I miss-used it and broke a chunk of the pulley. Oh well, something else to buy. I got the pulley off and i got all the bolts off the lower timing chian cover, even the four on the oil pan and it the cover will not come out.

Is something attached to the front cover from the inside?? Well i guess i gotta drop the oil pan

Man this is allot of work. It pissed me off today so ill try and drop the pan tomorrow when i'm cooled off.

Post by **NISTECH** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:45 pm

your pick up tube is attached to the cover. but also make sure that at the top there may be one on each side of cyl head 10mm bolts going down into the front cover.

Post by **red_240sx** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:45 pm

What a stupid place to have the oil pickup attached. Oh well, i got the oil pan loose and the front cover off. The guides look ok, one has a little wear but its noting to get worrried about. What i thought was weird was that the lower timing chain has no silver links or any different color links. So because i'm a newbie i will buy new chains because i'm worried i'd screw things up.

So now its time to order the chain and a couple of gaskets so i reassemble everything. Wish me luck.

Post by **red_240sx** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:45 pm

Well i found out something interesting. The hose diagram i posted above does not exactly match-up with my engine.

I have some ideas as to were the hoses go but i just don't want to be wrong. Can someone look this over and tell me if they agree that i got them going to the correct spots.

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Post by **NISTECH** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:45 pm

i attemped to compare the picture you posted earlier in your thread? is this picture from the same year service manual as your car? it appears the picture is oriented differently then what you have on your car.

Post by **red_240sx** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:45 pm

Well the first time i put together my engine i put the head on and then realized allot later about the hoses. I searched the forums and found someone who had a hose diagram for SOHC KA24E. Nobody else replied to my request for help. So i made do with what i had. My engine is a 92 KA24DE. I have the FSM but it is less than clear. I'm worried about making the wrong connections again and having it not fire when i have everything back together.

Post by **red_240sx** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:45 pm

NISTECH? Anyone? Any Ideas?? I poured over the manual the last couple of days and i have not found anything to lead me in the right direction. If you've pulled a KA24DE and have pictures of this area. I think that would help me the most.

Thanks for any help.

Post by **red_240sx** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:45 pm

Alright, here's an update. I got the engine back together again. I try to turn it on without pressing the gas it doesn't start. I try to barely press the gas and pump it (by barely pressing it) and i can get it to just start by dies suddenly. Then i tried hold down the pedal all the way and the car starts idles really rough and seem like it wants to keep going. I had it going like this for 15 -20 seconds before it dies. Any one have any ideas of what could be keeping me from getting it started and going??

Oh and i've noticed since the last time i had the car together and was trying it. The engine shakes allot more now. I mean allot more, but it stops when the car acts like its starting.

Post by **NISTECH** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:45 pm

it sounds like you have either a hurrendous vaccum leak or it is dumping fuel into the cyl ,like injectors are stuck open. timing could also be way off. being you were able to get it to come to life somewhat by holding the pedal to the floor I am leaning more toward fuel enrichment.

Post by **NISTECH** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:45 pm

have someone pinch the fuel supply line while you try to start it. alternate from full throttle to no throttle few seconds at each end once it fires if it starts to run at an acceptable idle have the other guy start pulsing the fuel by pinching and releasing the fuel hose. in an attempt to make it idle smoother. if this works fuel is your problem either leaking injector or incorrect command from computer due to inaccurate input from either maf or coolant temp sensor. if this trick doesent seem to be changing anything then i would say it could be the vaccum or timing problem. the only thing i could think of in your spagetti of vaccum lines that could cause the car to run poor and not start right would be if you hooked up source vaccum to your egr valve. if you hooked anything else up wrong it shouldnt stop it from running.

Website · Post by **s13sr20chris** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:45 pm

pedal to the floor and hardly runs? hate to say it, but that is a classic symptom of nissan t-chain jumping time. i feel for you bro, since you have put it back together and it still dont work. i am not saying thats def your prob. just a possibility.

Post by **red_240sx** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:45 pm

GOOD NEWS: We'll heres what i did. I took the spark plugs out and checked the cylinders for fluid. All were dry but cylinder #4. Ok, i went and got more orings. Ok, car starts easier but still shudders off. So next i checked the distributor to see if i had it 180 degrees off. Nope that was right. So i decided to turn the distributor to change the timing alittle. BINGO!! It came alive and stayed on. So i played with the distributor until i could turn the car on and give it no pedal. I think i need to get a timing light and set timing just right.

BAD NEWS: I got fluid leaking from the water pump.

I guess i tightened the belts too hard. So i need to replace this now. Well one issue at a time.

Post by **Pat89XE** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:45 pm

hey, where is the PCV valve on the single cam KA???I bought a new one a part ov some preventive maitnence for my 240 but now I don't know where it's located????HELP! please!

Post by **red_240sx** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:45 pm

If you don't have a FSM then this site might be able to help you if you have a 89-94 Nissan 240SX

http://www.carfiche.com/

Website · Post by **s13sr20chris** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:45 pm

pcv valve? remove the oil filter and look at the hose behind it. its right there.

Post by **Pat89XE** » Tue Jun 03, 2003 2:45 pm

found it!!! thanks!

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