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Okay.. please tell me why the **** would you buy a perfectly good 1998 240SX and then destroy it by replacing our awesome headlights AND tail lights AND swapping out the motor?!?! You need a reality check. What the hell difference would it make for you to buy a '95 instead of a '98, if you're destroying the body, and replacing the engine.. Think logically here. $8000 for a nice Kouki or $3000 for a decent Zenki. You definitely need to think before you speak/type

EDIT: Grey Goose is delicious


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JimmyMethod wrote:Agreed.Are most Kouki's auto? Who the hell get's sport coupes that are autos?Who invented that abomination, anyway?
I'm not wanting to turn this into an automatic vs. manual thread, but to call this an abomination is really offensive. Some people, like myself, find the 240SX to be a great car with an automatic. Maybe I like having my hands on the wheel at all times. Maybe it's because my Jetta is a manual and I like the change.

I don't know why I like the 240SX with an automatic. I just do. I've had two and they were both automatics and I love them. I particularly like the standard transmission fluid cooler...not too common and makes the transmission last a lot longer than one without it. Every time I've driven an S13 or S14 with the manual, I just didn't like the positioning of the shifter. I like to ride with the seat far back with my legs stretched out...for me, it makes a shift a long reach.

Manual or automatic, these are fine cars and from 1989 to 1998, I don't think you can go very wrong. They're fairly slow, but for the money, you cannot find a better used car.

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I see what you mean, maybe I won't do it; Since I do like the look, I just want something quicker.. not some 0-60 in 8 seconds... seriously. Well maybe i'll get some Mod's. My cusin happens to be in Japan right now, and he to is getting an R34 Engine and if I tell him "Buy another one, and i'll pay you back" I got myself an R34 Engine, all I gotta do is swap it ( which my dad can do) and I got myself a speed machine. What do you think I should do?

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Considering this is your first car I'd definately wait on modifying it. No one likes to see some kid wrecking a perfectly good car just because they felt the need to go fast. Things I would do:

1.Worry about your driving first.

2. Build up the suspension before you do any engine swap or high hp modifications. 240s respond very well to this stuff, plus you'll learn alot about your car this way.

3. Keep your Automatic for awhile. The automatic nissan put in this car is fairly decent and well designed. Only reason I'm swapping mine out is because my automatic is starting to slip and I got a killer deal on a parts car.... I'm so excited lol now I'm just waiting for my Fidanza flywheel and new clutch.

4. Oh and the R34 engine is not a bolt on deal, but if you have the money and time and feel the need to do such a thing, go for it and good luck.

And welcome to Nico.

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Grey goose, you are far too young to be drinking GG. I'm disappointed in you.

Save the good stuff for us college students...

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Haha, I love Grey Goose; By the way I could drive, pretty good to be honest. It's becoming easier everytime, everyday I drive stick so now it's becoming a 2nd nature, so don't worry I know what i'm doing....well atleast I think I do

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Gr3yG0os3 wrote:well atleast I think I do
No, you dont. You havent even ever used a heavy duty pressure plate for a couple of years, and have no years of performance driving experience. You know, I really dont want to scare a member away, but you are one of like 30,000 kids who think they can just jump into something and be good at it without lots of serious training. C'mon, havent you seen Karate Kid? Mr. Miagi could teach you something... Why do you think insurance is so high for people under 25?

Driving a car for race purposes takes many many years of training and often plenty of mistakes and money. I didnt start modding my car for almost 3 years after I bought it and I had been driving for 5 years before I even considered I was good enough to get into tis kinda driving.

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Gr3yG0os3 you have lots to learn my son about the S14.. I wouldn't do an engine swap unless the engine has over 130,000 miles on it and if I swapped it I would throw the SR20DET in there. On you wanting to do the Skyline conversion that's a big no, no.. You need to get over the fast & furious ricey crap and stick to the JDM or USDM look.

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Haha. You seriously think it's that hard? I do drive everyday stick, and as for that "Fast and the furious" crap I can care less, thats not what got me into it, what got me into it was the look of the Skyline, not some Fast and the Furious Movie. I am changing my decision on the Skyline Conversion and the engine swap, but later on in life I am gonna get a Conversion, just because I love the look.

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ok, i know i jumped on late, but here's my 2 cents:

#1: I'm 16 and drive a 96 5 speed (check tha sig) who is keeping my baby stock and modding later because i can drive, just not as good as I need to be. I understand my limits and know i am under experienced, i don't think you realize that. I have driven a stick since i was about 9, cars since about 8. i grew up on a farm in NC, and i still know that i could not handle the power of an sr ka-t or rb for that matter. This my friend is what you need to realize.

# 2: why dou you want a kouki to do a conversoion. Buy a zenki and convert it. There are 30,000 of them in the us vs about ~7,000 koukis. Zenkis are cheaper and is more suited for a teenager in case you wreck it.

I'm not trying to be an a** and run you off the forums but im just telling you how its gonna be. You'll hurt yourself with an rb. Hell, any of us would piss our pants if we actually owned a skyline, so who doesn't like them. Heres my suggestion. Buy your 240, then take it out and get used to the power. Then go for a cruise in the rain ( i know it rains in FL, i live here now), and see if you think you can handle about 200 more horses+. I can spin the tires all the way through 5th gear in the rain, and it likes to go sideways in the rain and dry if your not careful. So as long as ive been driving, i still have too much power right now in a stock ka. So you need to sit and think of your limits.


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this thread depresses the hell out of me

search and everything you asked was answered

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*sigh* Lol, I do know my limits. I'm no retard, lol Well anyways I think your right. I should get used to it, but I love the look, not the engine, the look. The engine I want to have and be proud of, not to race, maybe in Dragstrips and sometimes speed, but thats mostly it.

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Gr3yG0os3 wrote:*sigh* Lol, I do know my limits. I'm no retard, lol Well anyways I think your right. I should get used to it, but I love the look, not the engine, the look. The engine I want to have and be proud of, not to race, maybe in Dragstrips and sometimes speed, but thats mostly it.
No, you do not know your limits until you drive a 240 in the rain. And btw, if you do deside to do the swap, don't just say, hey dad, will you throw this engine in? Research it and do it yourself, makes you more one with your car and a better feeling when you turn the key and hear that Race Bread open up!

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I don't know what most of you are thinking when you say a 240sx is slow. A bus is slow. A tractor is slow. A snail is slow.

It might not be the fastest in a straight line but I guarantee any newbie driver would think it's incredibly fast. I mean, people think hondas are fast right? I'm talking stock trim people, not that 500whp civic that beat a 10 second viper.

Our cars might not be fast but they definitely feel it. In stock trim I think the 240sx is one of the most balanced cars out there. As far as doing all the crazy swaps and whatnot I think you should SIT in a 240 while someone who knows how to drive, drives it. You'll probably appreciate the car much more and realize going fast is a little different than what's in your mind. just my 2 cents...

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Gr3yG0os3 wrote:Hey, i'm going for a skyline look R34 Tlights, Hlights and and i'm hopefully getting a 01' R34 Engine, Gonna TURBO IT! wewt!
goddamnit, my post got deleted.. anyways... ROFLLLLLL you gonna turbo an engine thats alerady twin turboed? (rb26dett iirc)? third turbo? be the first eh?

you must really think modifying a car happens from a click of a button or a snap of a finger.. you're gonna ask your dad to swap the rb for you? do you even know if it fits? does he? do you even know what parts are required to do the swap? lol..

"grab me a rb26dett while you're at japan, cuz" that is the utmost horrible thing i have heard in awhile.. lol shame on you.

why buy a beautiful kouki to just ruin it? you're gonna do the whole r34 conversion? lol.. you do not even know how much custom fitment is required on the body work..

little search will help you a long way.. especially from getting flamed like this.
drifter_for_life06 wrote: this thread depresses the hell out of me
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hopefully getting a 01' R34 Engine, Gonna TURBO IT! wewt!

Hopefully, doesn't it say "hopefully" So stop acting like a smart***. I said hopefully, i'm not going to do this soon ONLY and only when the thing gots 150K + Miles so for now i'de suggest you shut the hell up.

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Gr3yG0os3 wrote:hopefully getting a 01' R34 Engine, Gonna TURBO IT! wewt!

Hopefully, doesn't it say "hopefully" So stop acting like a smart***. I said hopefully, i'm not going to do this soon ONLY and only when the thing gots 150K + Miles so for now i'de suggest you shut the hell up.
dude, you really should start doing your research. the RB's already twin turbo'd and for the price and all the heart-ache you're going to go through once you have a jdm engine sitting in your garage you might as well go ka-t.

if you just want to bull**** about cars you probably should head over to honda-tech.com. NICO really isn't a forum for ricers. Over there if you posted a thread about the 1000lb civic hatchback you're building with a 400whp N/A H22 prelude engine swap which you're planning to drift professionally in japan, you'd probably get the kind of responses you're looking for.

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Megadeth wrote:
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Man only if this front bumper was just a little bit higher you can actually drive it.

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Gr3yG0os3 wrote:hopefully getting a 01' R34 Engine, Gonna TURBO IT! wewt!

Hopefully, doesn't it say "hopefully" So stop acting like a smart***. I said hopefully, i'm not going to do this soon ONLY and only when the thing gots 150K + Miles so for now i'de suggest you shut the hell up.
hopefully? lol okay.. lets say you get it.. :hopefully: and you are gonna turbo it? lol do you not understand what you said?

you're hopefully getting a rb26dett, which you want to turbo.. 150k+ miles on a rb26dett? haha.. what are you saying my friend..150k on the car? make yourself a bit clear, i used to have dreams like you when i was 15 too.. not saying you're 15.. but we all have fantasies.
Gr3yG0os3 wrote: The more I train, the harder I get. The harder I get the more lethal I am. The more lethal I am the fewer the opponents. The fewer the opponents, the more i let up. The more i let up, the more I train. :P

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once you say you're gonna get a 98 kouki, now on the sig, you claim to have it, given off by the words "under construction".you confuse yourself on a daily basis eh?, confused child sorry, i forgot to mention, Welcome to NICO! you'll learn alot here, like i did!


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tetsuo wrote:
Man only if this front bumper was just a little bit higher you can actually drive it.
I think guys who owns it does drive with it on.. He's on the forums somewhere. It's a sweet put together Silvia conversoion

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So what I stay with the KA which is only a V4 So i can go ahead and just blow the engine off, the things not ment for racing. I race lets say 2 times a week the thing is gonna blow. That's what I think, it's a V4 how much can it take? I mean i'm not going to litterally race, but just speed, so I think the engine isn't gonna hold off pretty long.


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Hey, just some quick info...the 240sx uses an I4 because the block is in an inline configuration.Carry on.

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Goose: I'd expect to pay somewhere between $10,000 and $15,000 for a top-notch RB26DETT swap into a '98 S14.

The engine is going to cost you about half of that, and then the install and incidentals will make up the difference.

I take my KA just about to redline at least once a day, and I drive my car very hard, it has no problems at all. This isn't an RX-7, it's not a particularly easy engine to grenade.

I know the quality of car you're thinking you're going to build, but I don't think that you have any idea whatsoever what it's going to cost. If you think you're going to take a stock S14 and $10k and turn it into a D1 car, you've got another thing coming......

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Gr3yG0os3 wrote:So what I stay with the KA which is only a V4 So i can go ahead and just blow the engine off, the things not ment for racing. I race lets say 2 times a week the thing is gonna blow. That's what I think, it's a V4 how much can it take? I mean i'm not going to litterally race, but just speed, so I think the engine isn't gonna hold off pretty long.
the more you post, the more make yourself look stupid..not V4, it is an I4, and of all..lol.. s2000 is a I4.. i see those competing in japan with all those other cars.. what makes you think four cylinders cant hold up to what 8 cylinders can?

stop contradicting yourselfstop making yourself look stupid

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Bro...maybe I should ask questions then say what I think, cause I took a look at the engine and thought.."it's a V4" So thats all what I thought so please shut the **** up, and stop being such a smart***.

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And since when did s2000's have 155hp? I mean, i might sound like a "car newbie" but I just started learning about the Silvia itself, I never really go and look up info. on silvia's, even though I should, and even though my thought of turning the silvia into a "Mini Skyline" as in swapping the Hlights, Tlights etc.. sounds unrealistic, but I do want to do it one day..ONE DAY...


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I think its funny that you said "V4" again after we had that long talk on AIM. I even explained that whole inline vs. V stuff in great detail. I mean, doesnt the term V4 sound a little funny to you? Its not like you have ever heard it in a commercial or anything before...

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2BN_S13 wrote:I think its funny that you said "V4" again after we had that long talk on AIM. I even explained that whole inline vs. V stuff in great detail. I mean, doesnt the term V4 sound a little funny to you? Its not like you have ever heard it in a commercial or anything before...
V4 sounds perfectly legitimate if we're talking about an outboard marine motor.

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Yes but I was appealing to his knowledge base. Thanks for the clarification smartypants...

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Gr3yG0os3 wrote:And since when did s2000's have 155hp? I mean, i might sound like a "car newbie" but I just started learning about the Silvia itself, I never really go and look up info. on silvia's, even though I should, and even though my thought of turning the silvia into a "Mini Skyline" as in swapping the Hlights, Tlights etc.. sounds unrealistic, but I do want to do it one day..ONE DAY...
who said s2000s have only 155hp?

theres your problem

just buy a skyline, or do it on a wrecked 240, you'll have to do much custom fab anyways. dont ruin a great kouki/zenki/chuki
2BN_S13 wrote:I think its funny that you said "V4" again after we had that long talk on AIM. I even explained that whole inline vs. V stuff in great detail. I mean, doesnt the term V4 sound a little funny to you? Its not like you have ever heard it in a commercial or anything before...


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