Heres a thought....

[lookatme!]

IMO, the "rice" haters have gotten out of hand. I'm sick of getting on here and seeing threads dedicated to hating on other peoples cars. It wasnt so bad untill I stumbled into the cardomain POS challenge, and saw a friends car- one that I personally LIKE- being bashed. If you dont like flashy cars, thats great, but what say we make a section for that and only that, so people who are tired of seeing it can browse nico in peace? Face it guys, rice is whats in. Deal with it. I'm about done with nico.

[SmithSR]

Don't leave NICO over something as trivial as a disagreement in taste.

[lookatme!]

But its ALL over this site. no no dont get that wing-its rice. Those wheels look hella rice. *link to car on ebay* flood this guy with emails about how rice his car is. Even in innocent sounding threads, Rice hating is prevalent. I dont understand why people cant just get over the fact that alot of people prefer form over function, looks over 10 sec 1/4, and all that.

[lookatme!]

And I anticipate some hatin commin my way just for voicing the opinion that I prefer to look at a slow "riced out" car than a beat *** car that can run 10's in the 1/4

[kahoots240]

That what make this thing great. Everybody got their own style They build it for show I have no problem with that. I seen some vehicles that look really nice. Im not really into wings and bodykits but im not going to put down a car that someone put time and effort into it.

[ShadowKnight006]

I have to agree there is a lotta haterade comin outta the NICO water cooler but not everyone is out rippin people's preferences apart(a lot but not all). I think a lot of cars in that thread were nice and the once I didn't were probably built for sh*** and giggles(ie cardboard car, indistinguishable ford, etc). The rest looked fine to me.

[lookatme!]

I agree it is not ALL. but it seems that every single thread I click on, I see hate about rice. The cardboard car was funny... the comments about my friends car were not. And it was one of the nicer ones on that thread, IMO

[nametakennow]

It's all a matter of preference. I used to join in the bashing all the time, but I've figured out myself that if they put all the time into it that they did, I'm not going to get on their case. I'll make cracks to myself, but that's just simply because I don't personally like what they did.

Basically, there will always be a war of form over function versus function over form and occasionally with a third player known as crazy*** rich people who do both. Then again, form is in the eye of the beholder. I honestly think my stock-looking Sentra looks better than a lot of cars out there, but that's my own thoughts. Do I wish it had more style? Yes. Do I wish it performed better? Yes many times over. You live with what you have and do what you want, leave it there.

[SmithSR]

There's an old saying, and I forget how it goes.... but the basic idea is: If you go in looking for something, that thing is what you will have found.

You're too worried about people on nico hating other cars, but I feel that way when I browsed FA and read the many posts about how long ago they got their 240's and only people who bought their car at a certain unspecified period of time BEFORE they were mainstream, only those guys were cool. But you know, they can't just sit there and call themselves 'cool'... it's gotta be some absurdity such as we're l33t tyt3 y0, which is as about as pathetic as us humans can act. So bored(which means they're boring people) that they're talking as if within an insider's club that nobody cares about. Allow your kids too much time unsupervised and that is the sad result.

My point is, if you're not happy, try something different. We'll still be here and getting bigger & better, so come back when you're ready. No other major N/I site is as welcoming. Unless you are already a teenage eletist, then I know a place where you'll fit right in. But all in all, I hope you stay.

[j-z]

theres a big difference between a clean well put together car and a riced out half assed ghetto mobile. i choose to look at clean well put together cars. example of a clean well put together car is where everything flows together as one in uniform. there was actually some thought put into the appearance of the car. an example of a riced out car is a bunch of **** just thrown on it thats all outta whack. plain and simple the **** just doesnt look right one bit. which most riced cars you see are exactly that. crap thrown all over it and called cool when in reality it looks worse before you even laid hands on it.

[skydragoness]

I haven't looked at the Cardomain POS challenge (never cared for Cardomain really) but the form vs function issue isn't being argued about. There is striving for pure form, there is striving for pure function, and there are the people out there who meld the two.

But to clarify what j-z already said.: There's a difference between putting your heart into something, being it form OR function, and not putting your heart into it, slapping something together haphazardly, and just not caring. I think that people generalize others who do things "half-assed" as being "ricers" and this is where all the grey-area comes in because people's opinions about what's half-assed and what's not comes into play.

To bring up the topic about the already ancient topic of ricer-bashing is tired in itself. Who cares anymore? What matters is that it's a true hobby to that person, and it's what they want to do, if they can't take people's criticisms in stride, then they're trying too hard to fit in--plain and simple.

[MaineExport]

Ricers will rice out their cars... rice haters will get their rocks off ripping on them. Who cares...

Are you saying people shouldn't have opinions or the right to express them? I think anyone who goes out of their way to "pimp" their ride with "rice" is just as lame as someone who goes out of their way to give that guy crap.

[Jesda]

You saw your friends car in the POS thread?

Who are you choosing as friends? ( Just kidding. )

One man's POS is another's joyride.

[jdmfreak]

And the debate goes on...

[AZhitman]

True - Hell, we've been getting it from the domestic crowd for 40 years.

Guess what? We're here to stay. Ricers, racers, lowriders, euros, minitrucks, 4x4's, VIP tuners, VW cats - ALL the import enthusiasts need to support each other.

And truth be told, it ain't really hate - Just remember, some of these folks are young and impressionable - We need to set a good example, and lead them in the ways of sensible modifications.

[InstantRice]

^ that was like the I have a dream speech for imports...

[K240]

LOOKATME!!!- if you dont want to hear about the rice bashing, you didnt have to go to the CArdomain POS challenge thread, you could have just ignored it.

[jdmfreak]

Can I get a AMEN!!!

[K240]

AMEN!!!

[jdmfreak]

I have a question if you dont wanna answer Ill understand. Which one is your friends car?

[InstantRice]

hopefully the aztec....

[lookatme!]

The storm. I dont think it's rice. He put a lot of work into it. I used to have a storm, and that was what I wanted it to look like... with a slightly smaller spoiler on the back. I like altezzas, I think they look good. I like his body kit- it wasnt easy to come by. I dont see shy that car would EVER be put into that thread.

LOOKATME!!!- if you dont want to hear about the rice bashing, you didnt have to go to the CArdomain POS challenge thread, you could have just ignored it.

Not all the cars on that thread were rice. Alot of them WERE POS, and it was funny. The aztec... yuk. But thats not the only thread like that. I happen to like clears/altezzas... on certain cars, yes, I think they look nice. Not the 240. They have to be tastefully done though. But I've stumbled into a few threads where anyone who says they like clear/altezzas is most definitly rice. And Thats fine, but I dont want to be bashed for being a ricer because I like altezzas and have a painted interior. I understand that its fun to tear down the obviously slapped together, duct taped ****-mobiles... I do it on my own time whenever I go out with my husband... but to bash something that someone put alot of hard work and stuff into isnt right. Just like a few of the people up ther have said.And I'm not going to leave NICO... Despite all the rice bashing, I have learned quite a bit... most stuff I didnt know before. Because of NICO, guys think I'm cool because I know more about my car than any other girl they know....

[Onizuka]

I think your freinds car would look good without the altezza's. There are very FEW cars that can wear altezza's without looking tacky in my opinion. I guess it also depends on the quality of the altezza's (I have seen some sexy altezza's, but they were in the $1000+ price range).

I dont have a problem with show cars, its just irritating having my eardrums bleed and my retina's scorched when a car with hot yellow vinal and way-too-loud base drives by. I would have to argue that cars like that are build soley as a cry for attention. I wouldnt mind having my car be a tad bit more aesthetically pleasing for when I show it to other people, but putting a smile on my own face is the most important part.

And maybe its just me, but i think dull grey, very drab interiors rock. But No interior is even better

We all have our own opinions, you seem like a mighty nice person, I hope you stick around.

[Nathan]

I agree with Matt, you DO sound like a mighty nice person. Also, you have to realize there is a fundamental difference in what girls and guys like about a car. A lot of the people rice bashing (myself included) are guys. My girlfriend though...she likes the blue neons and stuff because of the "pretty colors." For her its not about speed, handling, braking or anything...the ONLY thing that matters is that the car looks "nice." Her definition of nice differs than mine it seems but she's gotten pretty good about knowing when NOT to comment on a "nice" car . I can't fault a lady for her strange taste in fashion or cars

[downshift]

I would have to argue that cars like that are build soley as a cry for attention. I wouldnt mind having my car be a tad bit more aesthetically pleasing for when I show it to other people, but putting a smile on my own face is the most important part.

Enough said. People who put things like flagrant body kits and altezzas are either: 1) looking for attention because they are interested in what everyone else thinks of their cars and 2)they just have no kind of tuning capabilities and only get what is "in"

[j-z]

I haven't looked at the Cardomain POS challenge (never cared for Cardomain really) but the form vs function issue isn't being argued about. There is striving for pure form, there is striving for pure function, and there are the people out there who meld the two. But to clarify what j-z already said.: There's a difference between putting your heart into something, being it form OR function, and not putting your heart into it, slapping something together haphazardly, and just not caring. I think that people generalize others who do things "half-assed" as being "ricers" and this is where all the grey-area comes in because people's opinions about what's half-assed and what's not comes into play. To bring up the topic about the already ancient topic of ricer-bashing is tired in itself. Who cares anymore? What matters is that it's a true hobby to that person, and it's what they want to do, if they can't take people's criticisms in stride, then they're trying too hard to fit in--plain and simple.

wow, i really like the last part of your last paragraph.and *cough* AMEN.

[I30T]

IMO, the "rice" haters have gotten out of hand. I'm sick of getting on here and seeing threads dedicated to hating on other peoples cars. It wasnt so bad untill I stumbled into the cardomain POS challenge, and saw a friends car- one that I personally LIKE- being bashed. If you dont like flashy cars, thats great, but what say we make a section for that and only that, so people who are tired of seeing it can browse nico in peace? Face it guys, rice is whats in. Deal with it. I'm about done with nico.

The Cardomain POS Challenge is not and wasn't inteded to be rice-bashing.

Don't be bashing the Cardomain POS challenge. Look at the cars that I posted. Are they or are they not crappy cars which may or may not be featuring a shiatty paint job or other bad taste or made of cardboard?

Just because "it's in" doesn't mean everyone has to like it, thats what youre implying.

You, my friend, are the one who needs to deal.

And Stay at NICO. You do seem nice. Just don't insult the POS Challenge.

[Naroni]

Hey, You're talking to my friend I30t all wrong here. It's the wrong tone. You better watch it, or I'll stab you in the face with a soldering iron. Hey, does your mother sew? BOOM. Get her to sew that.

[j-z]

^^^wow what the **** is that all about?

[j-z]

can someone post a pic of the 'storm'? i wanna see what lookatme? is getting all defensive about. i tried to open the POS thread and my webtv is shiot and never opened it cause it was too much to handle.