help needed A.S.A.P !!!!!!!! ( subwoofer ?)

[frswhtcoupe]

hello felas, im new here , i've thought of joining a while back but never really had any questions 'till now. I need someone that knows the trunk dimentions to tell me if this would fithttp://mobile.jlaudio.com/prod...d=303

[dangeris]

Don't know the trunk dimension off hand but why don't you just get a tape measure and measure it?

[frswhtcoupe]

i actually did and acording to my measurements i might be able to squezze it in, but am not sure if thats a good thing

[AltimaJoe]

It looks like it would fit but with the size of the coupe's trunk you're gonna sacrifice a lot of space for a box like that. I think the best way to go is with a custom box. In my case I don't want to block the back seats... if I can't fold the seats down how do I fit my golf clubs??? When I do upgrade I'm going to get two custom boxes made, one for each side. It's worth the extra cash to save the already limited space imo.

[frswhtcoupe]

I actually dont need the trunk space, i pretty much drive alone, and dont cary much, so i could use my back seats to put things i need, the only reason i ask for this sub and not a "10" is because i can get it for a little over $ 400 so i want to jump on this deal

[rjdmmfl1]

For anyone thinking 400+ is too much money for a sub and box, you don't know the W7 series well. This one 12" sub would destroy almost every 2 sub system I've seen folks install on this forum... just a bit of FYI before anyone attempts to flame him for paying that much for a sub and a box.

That said, I would like to make a couple of statements...

Although I appreciate JL audio for being one of the only true competitors of Rockford Fosgate, I have never understood their desire to be so unconventional.... from their 3 ohm single voice coil setups to their wierd 13.5" woofer sizes, they've always seemed a bit odd to me, but very impressive sound quality none the less!

In regards to the box, yes it will fit, but not under the speaker area. It will sit in the center of your trunk, destroying ANY usuable room in your trunk.

All that being said, what type of AMP are you getting? My guess is the JL500/1. Being that the sub handles 750RMS at 3 ohms, a 500 RMS at 4ohm sub would be perfect. I can't see you going with a crappy amp to push a W7!

[Rmuth25]

Just for curiositys sake, does anyone know where the 2 subwoofers are in the bose system in the coupe

[mazda2005]

If you want the box to fit all the way in the back your box can't have a height greater then 12"

[frswhtcoupe]

other than a jl amp what other amps can i use, I want to get this bad boy running at 800-900 rms, or even 1000 rms if possible, The amp should be at a reasanable price obviously, that i can get the same results or close to the jl one

[rjdmmfl1]

other than a jl amp what other amps can i use, I want to get this bad boy running at 800-900 rms, or even 1000 rms if possible, The amp should be at a reasanable price obviously, that i can get the same results or close to the jl one

again, this is the sub you chose... you will have a hard time finding a good quality amp that'll push 1000watts RMS at 4 ohms! And when you do, it won't be cheap!
Modified by rjdmmfl1 at 4:00 PM 2/18/2008

[Broadfield]

You could do a Alpine PDX 1.1000. It puts out a 1000 watts rms anywhere from 2-4 ohm. It is also a third of the size of a JL 1000/1 and 30% cheaper. Let me know and I'll shoot you a killer price. I also stock the JL stuff if you do indeed go with a JL amplifier.

Also on a sidenote, you can run that 3 ohm load off a 4 ohm stable amp. You will run it slightly hard, but not too hard that it will go into protect. I have done it a thousand times.

Toby

[dj figz]

my neibor has an 01 acord coupe and put all jl stuff in his trunk...btw he did that work himself if anyone is interested in a custom trunk get at me..ill post more pics of stuff he does

[frswhtcoupe]

would this amp get the job done to get it to 1000 rmshttp://www.onlinecarstereo.com...16349

[Broadfield]

That's only 500 watts rms..... it's a 1000 max. Don't be fooled by cheaper brands or marketing tactics.

[rjdmmfl1]

You could do a Alpine PDX 1.1000. It puts out a 1000 watts rms anywhere from 2-4 ohm. It is also a third of the size of a JL 1000/1 and 30% cheaper. Let me know and I'll shoot you a killer price. I also stock the JL stuff if you do indeed go with a JL amplifier.

Also on a sidenote, you can run that 3 ohm load off a 4 ohm stable amp. You will run it slightly hard, but not too hard that it will go into protect. I have done it a thousand times.

Toby

that's a very good AMP. My suggestion would have been either the Rockford Fosgate T10001-Bd or the T15001-BD... altough they state 500 RMS at 4 ohms, they actualy put out about 750 - 800RMS at 4 ohms.

The 15001-BD is the newer model with the newer technology allowing more power in a smaller amp, similar to the Alpine PDX...

Price wise, I think they are both about the same, I haven't heard the ALpine PDX in person, and am not as famliliar with it as Broadfield so I defer to his expertise on that. I do believe that neither of us will steer you wrong and i think you'll be happy with either amp. I would say that, looking at the description, the PDX has more advanced technology... being able to deliver the same amount of power from 2-4ohms is a very unique feature! It actually looks like that will be the perfect amp for you! BUt be prepared to spend some dough, good amps are NOT inexpensive... there's just no way around it!

Oh yeah, and don't even consider that Hifonics amp you linked!

[frswhtcoupe]

okay guys i'll take your word and get the alpine amp that broadfield suggested,, so whats the price your willing to sell it for broadfield ? let me know

[Broadfield]

The PDX1.1000 retails for $850, Nico price is $569 shipped.

[rjdmmfl1]

The PDX1.1000 retails for $850, Nico price is $569 shipped.

And ebay prices from reputable powersellers is ~$425.00 shipped

[Broadfield]

Yeah, but those are most likely refurbished. Unless they want to give them away. Trust me, I know what dealer cost is, and I know how much ebay fees are. They are making 0$ unless they are selling refurbished. Also, they are NOT authorized dealers no matter what they say unless they actually have a "brick and mortar" store front.

Some get burnt, some don't!

[rjdmmfl1]

Yeah, but those are most likely refurbished. Unless they want to give them away. Trust me, I know what dealer cost is, and I know how much ebay fees are. They are making 0$ unless they are selling refurbished. Also, they are NOT authorized dealers no matter what they say unless they actually have a "brick and mortar" store front.

Some get burnt, some don't!

its not a matter of getting burnt, and no, I don't think any of them are authorized dealers...

ebay power sellers have been undercutting authorized dealers for years... I can speak from first hand experience regarding Rockford Fosgate... my local authorized RF dealer ripped his distributor a new one because they were being severly undercut by ebay powersellers. To see if this particular seller was selling refubed goods, I purchased an amp from him, then had my local dealer check the serial number and see if indeed it was brand new or a refurb... indeed it was brand spanking new... so its not 100% true that they are selling refurbed equipment... I know exactly what deaer cost is on all RF units as I get ALL of my products at dealer cost because I'm best freinds with the shop owner...

aparently, alot of these individuals buy in bulk, then store them in a garage and sell them out of their garage... that way, they can afford to make $25-$50 profit instead of the $100-$150 profit you make by selling them at your price.

In the end, it is ALWAYS a better idea to buy from an authorized dealer such as yourself because you get the warranty... no warranty with the ebay dealers, and IMHO, the warranty is worth the extra $150... however, to get around this, now ebay offers squaretrade warranties which meet or exceed factory warranties... I'm not trying to mess up your business Broadfield, I just think everyone should be aware of ALL of their options, and then make up their minds for themselves!

[Miss_Lanaya]

Hey I have a question regarding my sound system, Not sure if this has already been explained. I have two 10" jl subs and jl amp, however I went to a&b sound and the guy who does installs told me I would need to have an aftermarket deck or some 500$ component that would allow me to install my stuff, he also said I would loose the majority of the boss speakers.....Is he bull**itting me? Is there really no other options?

[rjdmmfl1]

Hey I have a question regarding my sound system, Not sure if this has already been explained. I have two 10" jl subs and jl amp, however I went to a&b sound and the guy who does installs told me I would need to have an aftermarket deck or some 500$ component that would allow me to install my stuff, he also said I would loose the majority of the boss speakers.....Is he bull**itting me? Is there really no other options?

I would say the guy is trying to take advantage of you, prob because you're a female. Unfortunately, many installers do that and it sucks...

anyway, that's completely inaccurate... if you wanted to hook your system up to your factory deck, it is possible, you can get either a high-low converter or a sound level converter like the schoscke FAI-3 or SLC-4. Those two options are the cheapest ways to go...

the next option, as we mentioned in another post, is to go with something like the Rockford Fosgate 360.1... this is an equalizer/sound processor with RCA outputs that is specifically made to go with a factory head unit.

The last option is of course to get an aftermarket unit! Its really all about want you want from your system. Your question can be solved with a $20 piece of equipment or a $400 piece of equipment, all depends on EXACTLY what you want from your system!

[Miss_Lanaya]

Thanks for your help, I will google those. When the guy mentioned all that i thought there had to be other options but I didnt know enough about it to say anything back to him. Thank god your a guru in this department.

[Miss_Lanaya]

What about a JL clean sweep CL441dsp -OEM Audio Interface with Automatic Digital EQ. 4-ch. IN / 4-ch. OUT / 1 AUX Input?

[rjdmmfl1]

What about a JL clean sweep CL441dsp -OEM Audio Interface with Automatic Digital EQ. 4-ch. IN / 4-ch. OUT / 1 AUX Input?

The cleansweep is a very good product, comparable to quality in between the rockford fosgate 360.1 and 360.2.

For what you would want to do, I would say either the 360.1 or the cleansweep would be more than enough for your needs. The Rf 360.2 is beyond the scope, needs, and understanding of 99% of folks on this forum, including myself! So go with either the Rockford 360.1 or the JL cleansweep!

[frswhtcoupe]

rjdmmfl1, since jl products are "underrated" in power do think if i do go with the 500/1 will it actually produce more than 500rms, I'm thinking of going that route, that actually may be enough power ,now, that i think about it, and if later i feel it is not enough power for my needs, i can sell it and buy the 1000/1 or just get a second 500/1, what do you think ?...

[Broadfield]

In my experience of installing hundreds of JL amplifiers, I would say they are definitely NOT under-rated. I am usually disappointed on the overall output of them compared to other quality amplifiers of equal rated power. I'm not saying they are over-rated, just that they don't have the balls of some other amplifiers. Quality of construction, sound and aesthetics are top notch of course. JL also has their line of "small" amplifiers coming out this summer. They will be smaller than the Alpine PDX and produce sound quality superior to the JL Slash series!

[frswhtcoupe]

Broadfield, do you honestly think that the 500/1 is enough for the 12w7...i've been reading many many things on it and it seems that 1000/1 will push this sub to its max but is that really necessary? on the other hand the 500/1 is said to be enough I mean what im looking for is sq and good spl , not to the point were i cant turn up the volume past let say 20 or something

[rjdmmfl1]

rjdmmfl1, since jl products are "underrated" in power do think if i do go with the 500/1 will it actually produce more than 500rms, I'm thinking of going that route, that actually may be enough power ,now, that i think about it, and if later i feel it is not enough power for my needs, i can sell it and buy the 1000/1 or just get a second 500/1, what do you think ?...

I actually don't think the 500/1 will push the W7 the way its supposed to be pushed. You will be overworking the hel out of your amp just to get it to do its job. For the W7, with its 3ohm resistance, I would suggest getting the Alpine PDX that Boradfield suggested. Just do it right the first time! THat way, you won't have to worry about trying to fix it later...

If you don't give enough power to the W7, it won't sound good.
Modified by rjdmmfl1 at 9:53 PM 2/19/2008

[frswhtcoupe]

rjdmmfl1, you said their are ebay sellers that have the pdx for 425 shipped, i see you live in socal, do you any shops that i can get for less than that