Help.....I have a problem........

[sotech]

So how is any of this at all helpful or on-topic?

[SVTCOBRA]

Good point.

A MOD should give this feud it's own thread....may I suggest creating it in General...

[S pump]

Pretty funny turn..........I have been going back and forth with Infiniti consumer affairs and still am waiting for their final detrmination. In the meantime, I have scoured the internet and found several instances of engine failure. I tried to make inquiries on a few sites including this one and in two cases, supposed members responded with negative and derogatory comments. One particular member.....Infiniti Lineboy, or something like that was especiallyabrasive. It seems he and a couple other individuals associated with Infiniti decided that my concerns were not to be heard and eliminated my posts..............I've heard of this on internet forums before but that is just wrong...............so Lineboy..........keep spewing your propaganda and I'll be watching.............thanks.............hey, if I was treated professionally by anyone from Infiniti, I wouldn't be posting this and if one person read my post and decided against the brand, I wouldn't be surprised......Free Speech....

[S pump]

So how is any of this at all helpful or on-topic?

Early warning to a person looking for advice on a large purchase.........

[S pump]

: )

[Rex]

S pump, let me suggest if you have an issue with any member or Moderator, please contact an Administrator or the site owner via email.

..Free Speech....

As for this comment, I'd suggest you revisit the Terms Of Service. This is a private forum and your Constitutional Rights do not apply here.

Thanks.

[cruzad3r]

guys - relax,

there are three actions you can do on a forum and you can do a combination of those:
1- read
2- reply
3- ignore

most of the time, choose option three if you don't know what else to do.

s-pump - good luck with the repair and report back (if you want) the outcome

[WDRacing]

What's with all the f*** periods?

"................."

What does that even mean? Are you taking a long pause and feel the need for others to realize you're thought train got in a wreck?

With that said, if you didn't have the oil consumption issue diagnosed prior to running out of warranty, you're SOL. That's just fact.

[AZhitman]

...to add to all that:

1) None of us here are "shills". Nissan and Infiniti don't do anything for us, and as such, we're free to speak openly and honestly about their products. Lest you think otherwise, check my scathing critique of the Murano CrossCabriolet on the home page. That argument is done.

2) Without a proper diagnosis, we're all speculating - Most of all, the car owner. How about let's see what's wrong with it FIRST? I'd hate to have to clobber you with your own posts if it turns out that chickie-poo hit some road debris, busted open the oil pan, and drove another 40 miles with the oil light on.

3) I put 70K *HARD* miles (lots of track days, NASA and HPDE events) on my G35 Coupe (VQ-powered). BTW, it was supercharged (400whp). Never used a drop of oil. "BUT that's just one car!" Yep. So is the one we're talking about here.

Looks like we need to sit back and wait on the outcome.

p.s. Infiniti Corporate regularly peruses these boards.

[svard75]

Given the mileage of your car when this happened I would say any car manufacturer will turn you away, however for your sake I really hope Infiniti comes through for you and does you a favor.

Good Luck!
M

[S pump]

S pump, let me suggest if you have an issue with any member or Moderator, please contact an Administrator or the site owner via email.

..Free Speech....

As for this comment, I'd suggest you revisit the Terms Of Service. This is a private forum and your Constitutional Rights do not apply here.

Thanks.

Didn't realize Linedancer was a mod........but thanks.

[S pump]

What's with all the f**king periods?

"................."

What does that even mean? Are you taking a long pause and feel the need for others to realize you're thought train got in a wreck?

With that said, if you didn't have the oil consumption issue diagnosed prior to running out of warranty, you're SOL. That's just fact.

Conversational texting.....................its.....................alltherage. Thanks for your input tho.

[S pump]

...to add to all that:

1) None of us here are "shills". Nissan and Infiniti don't do anything for us, and as such, we're free to speak openly and honestly about their products. Lest you think otherwise, check my scathing critique of the Murano CrossCabriolet on the home page. That argument is done.

2) Without a proper diagnosis, we're all speculating - Most of all, the car owner. How about let's see what's wrong with it FIRST? I'd hate to have to clobber you with your own posts if it turns out that chickie-poo hit some road debris, busted open the oil pan, and drove another 40 miles with the oil light on.

3) I put 70K *HARD* miles (lots of track days, NASA and HPDE events) on my G35 Coupe (VQ-powered). BTW, it was supercharged (400whp). Never used a drop of oil. "BUT that's just one car!" Yep. So is the one we're talking about here.

Looks like we need to sit back and wait on the outcome.

p.s. Infiniti Corporate regularly peruses these boards.

Pretty sure Linesnorter has an axe to grind but whatever. I would think after paying Infiniti to diagnose the motor issues, they would have noticed a ruptured oil pan. If Infiniti (No Shills Noted) peruses this board, they will probably not care that I have the some control over a network that has provided 100's of high end cars to consumers and as of this point will no longer market any Nissan products.

[WDRacing]

I think the title of your thread speaks volumes

[jesustorres85]

I think the title of your thread speaks volumes

is there a "like" button for this?

[MOWellsinVA]

Man, S Pump was just asking for that!

Seriously, S Pump, everyone on this board was more than happy to give good advice or support, but you have what we call an "attitude problem". Stop assuming that everyone who does not immediately agree with everything you say is a "shill" for Infiniti or the Iluminati or (name your favorite shadowy conspiracy here). You get more flies with honey than vinegar. As has been told to you many times, you don't have a right to have your engine replaced because you are out of warranty. Without more solid info on what is actually wrong with your vehicle this thread is pretty useless. Infiniti is at least looking into this situation and might yet surprise you. Don't poison the well by getting so nasty to everyone, Infiniti included.

[Hutty985]

OK I read this post a few days ago before someone changed this guys name... And I must say, bravo.

[debiniarthug]

I've just read the thread and thought "S Pump" was the PC way to direct your comment. I didn't know it was changed until the last few posts and let me say "BOY, Now that's funny right there!" (in my best Larry the cable guy voice)

But it is unfair to use your power to insult anyone. It's fine to insult other people, because advice and comedy is why I'm on everyday, but don't use a tool that the other person isn't prevy to, it's has to be a fair fight.

On the other hand, I find it suspicious that S-Pump just joined. In my book, if you don't have a full year in, your opinion doesn't count as much. Don't use the forum as a $15,000 bargaining chip. Just my thoughts!

I would like to know how the situation turns out for you though S-Pump. Come back a post.

[S pump]

Well, Thank you all for your support. Lineup is correct, Infiniti has denied any assistance in getting my car repaired. Their solution was to pay Westboro Infiniti the estimated $3750-$4500 to diagnose exactly what went wrong with the car, then they would decide if it was something they would consider "partial" assistance on. They also suggested that there was very little chance that they would pay anything and that they definately would not pay to tear the motor down for diagnosis. The logic here, if they were intent on customer service, escapes me. If they are intent on denying any payouts on faulty vehicles, it makes sense. I'm over it and a big F U to Infiniti Consumer Affairs. I now have the car at my shop and have determined the failure to be a timing chain break. Before anyone says that never happens, bad maintenance, I'll take the blame. Afterall, I bought an Infiniti. Conflicting opinions on whether the VQ is an interference motor so I guess I'll wait to see what my mechanic says when he gets a little deeper. Worse case, I have a motor coming from my supplier and will have about $2500 out of my pocket. Maybe I should have just approved the $15,000 at Westboro up front. It's only money.

[myother45isalesbaer]

Well, Thank you all for your support. Lineup is correct, Infiniti has denied any assistance in getting my car repaired. Their solution was to pay Westboro Infiniti the estimated $3750-$4500 to diagnose exactly what went wrong with the car, then they would decide if it was something they would consider "partial" assistance on. They also suggested that there was very little chance that they would pay anything and that they definately would not pay to tear the motor down for diagnosis. The logic here, if they were intent on customer service, escapes me. If they are intent on denying any payouts on faulty vehicles, it makes sense. I'm over it and a big F U to Infiniti Consumer Affairs. I now have the car at my shop and have determined the failure to be a timing chain break. Before anyone says that never happens, bad maintenance, I'll take the blame. Afterall, I bought an Infiniti. Conflicting opinions on whether the VQ is an interference motor so I guess I'll wait to see what my mechanic says when he gets a little deeper. Worse case, I have a motor coming from my supplier and will have about $2500 out of my pocket. Maybe I should have just approved the $15,000 at Westboro up front. It's only money.

Interesting. I think you did the right thing getting it out of Westboro. Timing chains don't often fail, but the gears they drive do. Hopefully you didn't crash the pistons and valves. I, like others are interested in the final outcome. I have had interference engines do the same thing. Its not always a total engine loss if they did crash, but are repairable. Once the heads are off any damage can easily be determined. In my case one valve was damaged, heads did not crack, pistons and block were good, replaced the valve and motored on. Good luck.

[S pump]

Well I have the M back on the road with a 30k mile wreck motor.........went fairly smoothly and escaped for $2500 in parts and labor.of coaurse that is my cost on labor and engine. After a little digging, It appears the hydraulic timing chain adjuster was not working properly and was not float. The ratchet mechanism just locked it in an extended position wearing the tensioner block and applying too much pressure to the chain finally causing failure. Both cams operate freely and no signs of seizure anywhere...............so I have a slightly used block with lots of good parts. I have about 1000 miles on the transplant and all seems perfect. I will keep my fingers crossed for a while tho....thanks to those who were helpful.......

[a.blanco0905]

$2,500??? That's great man, hopefully everything works out for you. I must say that tho I agree that once your warranty runs out, you're on your own, I strongly disagree with Infiniti not having any liability on this failure at 83k miles, WHEN AND IF proper maintenance took place in your car. Good luck.

[Theo]

good to hear you have resolved the issue for what seems to be a deal!

I was curiously following the thread to see the end result,.... Some of the comments in this thread were interesting to say the least, thats all I say about that!

........ I've had a fluid/oil leak for a month now and the dealer cant locate the cause.

[S pump]

$2,500??? That's great man, hopefully everything works out for you. I must say that tho I agree that once your warranty runs out, you're on your own, I strongly disagree with Infiniti not having any liability on this failure at 83k miles, WHEN AND IF proper maintenance took place in your car. Good luck.

Thanks Blanco, I agree, Infiniti should have some liability with a car that is that expensive failing. I especially find it odd that they replaced some motors 3 times but refused any help at all to me........their solution, pay $4500 to see if they might provide some support if they found cause.........I was going to rant and rave but I really love the car and just accept it as a fluke.......

[S pump]

good to hear you have resolved the issue for what seems to be a deal!

I was curiously following the thread to see the end result,.... Some of the comments in this thread were interesting to say the least, thats all I say about that!

........ I've had a fluid/oil leak for a month now and the dealer cant locate the cause.

Thanks Theo, yah, there were some pretty funny comments along the way. I was very upset and I'm over it at this point. I guess my biggest b**** was how Infiniti Consumer Affairs treated me and the obvious lack of knowledge of the three young women who I spoke to. Their attitudes were really unbelievable and their professionlism was non existent.....anyway, I'm over it, if you need your car repaired, I'm sure I could get it done for you at my shop much cheaper. I am glad I have such good mechanics and access to realistic pricing...peace.

[S pump]

Not trying to stir the pot. A quick addendum to this thread. I'm not sure how to keep an eye on it but I have seen a few more instances of engine failure in VQ35 motored vehicles. They have actually become a favorite vehicle for us to buy and transplant motors lately. It seems the same failure on cam chain tensioners is not exclusively Infinitis. The tough part is it is relatively easy to repair and replace but requires more than shade tree mechanic tools to diagnose. It might be worth getting a flexible shaft camera to get in and take a look on these 3.5s. The cars are a bargain when bought with bad motors and cheap to transplant motors in. FWIW my M is still running strong and smooth with it's new heart, just did brakesnall around and need to find a fix for the changer hiccup and life on the road will be good again.

[InfinitiEric]

God this thread brings back memories.

[S pump]

Glad I could help.............:lol: