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He's back tonight on Current. Comcast Channel 107

At New Network, Olbermann Sets Sights on MSNBC

"Rather audaciously, Mr. Olbermann will try to draw viewers away from MSNBC and to his new home, where he wants to add more hours of like-minded hosts. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/20/busin ... l?_r=1&hpw

When he is done with MSNBC there is always Fox :chuckle

http://current.com/shows/countdown/

http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/t ... -show.html


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Am I supposed to care?

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nope. and not a single f#$! was given that day.

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And in other news, local mail man was bitten by a dog..

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Cold_Zero wrote:And in other news, local mail man was bitten by a dog..
Olbermann will blame it on the CEO of the corporation the carrier was delivering mail to, Rush will blame it on the fact that the mail service should have been privatized and FoxNews will demand that dogs be deregulated. Republicans in Congress will demand that treatment for the bite be withheld from the mail carrier because Bandaids are too expensive while Democrats in Congress will counter that taxpayers must supply animal control personnel to accompany every mail carrier in the country.

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Too funny!

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srellim234 wrote:
Cold_Zero wrote:And in other news, local mail man was bitten by a dog..
Olbermann will blame it on the CEO of the corporation the carrier was delivering mail to, Rush will blame it on the fact that the mail service should have been privatized and FoxNews will demand that dogs be deregulated. Republicans in Congress will demand that treatment for the bite be withheld from the mail carrier because Bandaids are too expensive while Democrats in Congress will counter that taxpayers must supply animal control personnel to accompany every mail carrier in the country.
:rotflmao

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UPDATE: The mail carrier is still bleeding. The dog will have to register every year as a sex offender because it bit the carrier on the butt.

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Was it a Weiner dog?

p.s. Olbermann's credibility is shot. And no one cares. :)

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His career is ......

GLASSES ON.....

OLBER MANNNNNNN!!

YEAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!

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Apparently Olbermann didn't raise enough money to buy a position in the Obama administration. Over 80% (almost 200) of the people who raised at least $500,000 for his election have gotten positions and jobs in this administration. Apparently you maybe need to be qualified but also need to pay his campaign off, too.

Obama is proving he is simply a standard corrupt politician.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opi ... 6283.story

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srellim234 wrote:Apparently Olbermann didn't raise enough money to buy a position in the Obama administration. Over 80% (almost 200) of the people who raised at least $500,000 for his election have gotten positions and jobs in this administration. Apparently you maybe need to be qualified but also need to pay his campaign off, too.

Obama is proving he is simply a standard corrupt politician.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opi ... 6283.story
Speaking of money

Cut cut cut from the middle class and more tax cuts for the rich

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/24/opini ... ef=opinion

These are the things Olberman points out on his program

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srellim234 wrote:Apparently Olbermann didn't raise enough money to buy a position in the Obama administration. Over 80% (almost 200) of the people who raised at least $500,000 for his election have gotten positions and jobs in this administration. Apparently you maybe need to be qualified but also need to pay his campaign off, too.

Obama is proving he is simply a standard corrupt politician.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opi ... 6283.story
It's not as bad as it sounds. From your link, Steve:
LA Times Editor wrote:Not every bundler appointed to an important position is unqualified, as the report might suggest. For example, the report notes that Obama named Julius Genachowski, who bundled $500,000 for his campaign, as chairman of the Federal Communications Commission. Yet Genachowski is also a former chief counsel to an FCC chairman and an expert in telecommunications law.
Sometimes the reason people can raise a lot of money is because, having accumulated so much experience in their pertinent field, they have the connections necessary to do so. This story could turn out to be terribly nefarious, or maybe not. And then there's this, in the next paragraph:
LA Times Editor wrote:As the candidate of hope and change, Obama should have turned off the patronage machine. Instead, he revved it up.
As far as I can tell, there's no support for the second statement, there. Not saying he didn't "rev" it up, I'm just saying the report merely gives us one data-point and asks us to believe that it is relatively high.

Similarly, I could say, "Howie is the smartest person on the bus." If I neglect to tell you that the bus is "short," you might not be faulted for assuming that I am saying Howie is smart.

Love you, Howie.

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And you missed in my post that "Apparently you maybe need to be qualified but also need to pay his campaign off, too."

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IBCoupe wrote:Similarly, I could say, "Howie is the smartest person on the bus." If I neglect to tell you that the bus is "short," you might not be faulted for assuming that I am saying Howie is smart.
Love you, Howie.
Worst person in the world

Grover Norquest

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srellim234 wrote:And you missed in my post that "Apparently you maybe need to be qualified but also need to pay his campaign off, too."
I don't know how many qualified people wanted the job and didn't raise money for his campaign. That's the problem with having one piece of data and developing a theory around it.

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Maybe this will help you a little bit with that information problem.

http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washin ... sador-jobs

http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... sts-abroad

Very little to do with being the best qualified but everything to do with campaign money.

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USNews wrote:And in the eyes of foreign service association, he’s become the worst abuser, putting political allies in 44 percent of the top 185 ambassadorial positions. By comparison, 30 percent of George W. Bush’s ambassadors were political appointees and 28 percent of Bill Clinton’s political allies and donors.
Link is dead inside the article, but it's certainly notable. I'm left to wonder how we're defining "political appointees."

And from your second link:
The Hill wrote:Obama has announced 24 ambassadorial nominations, but only two, those to Iraq and Afghanistan, have been confirmed. Some are high-profile posts that attract prominent diplomats and political heavyweights; others are cushy jobs that will go to top bundlers and key supporters.
So, are we really outraged about the Ambassadorship to the Bahamas? And if we are, why not just tell Congress not to confirm them. Not only is this a ton of speculation about who'll actually sit in the seat after the checks and balances have had their fun, but it's a tempest in a teapot - most of these jobs don't matter.

And for the ones that do matter, the most qualified are seeking the jobs.

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As a matter of fact I am upset about the ambassadorship to the Bahamas being given routinely to those who aren't the best qualified for the job but rather are selected based upon how much money they raised for the Presidential campaign. Maybe we wouldn't have the "Ugly American" reputation if we showed some respect for all of those "insignificant countries" and actually put diplomats who know something about them in charge. I'm sure the people of the Bahamas are thrilled to know that we have so little respect for them that we can't be bothered to put qualified people in there to deal with them. "Hey, guys, here's our new representative to deal with in your country. He doesn't know anything about you and has no foreign diplomatic experience but I owe him a political favor because he paid me for it. Enjoy!"

If nothing else, maybe we should change the procedure and start promoting ambassadors from positions within the foreign services, those people who have worked with those countries previously.

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Additionally if, as you say, those jobs don't matter, eliminate the job and save the money.

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^ Gotta agree on this one.

I know we're trending towards apathy for things like this, but I'm sure there's a budget for each one of those positions that could be swept.

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And that's a much better argument, but there will be costs - what does an American who gets in trouble in the Bahamas do if there's no embassy to appeal to?

And you aren't seriously suggesting that public opinion of Americans is driven by our diplomats, rather than our collective (statistically-speaking) refusal to learn more than one English? Our reputation as tourists? Our foreign wars and public statements?

Pretty sure "quality of ambassadors" is waaaayyy down that particular list.

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As a people we show no respect. Our political leaders don't show respect. We act like the proverbial bull in a china shop around the world. It all adds up and every little bit could help to swing that image around.

Add to that our attempts to influence democracy in many of those countries around the world. They're insignificant with our "political favor" ambassadors until a revolution is pending or starting. Then we tell them democracy in which bribes are paid and or buying cushy jobs is wrong but we have been setting the precedent by actually doing it on their soil for decades. Which are they going to believe, the example we've set for decades that they see in action or our newly found hollow words?

You are right about "Ugly American" tourists. When we traveled as a family to Europe I attempted to use my high school French in Paris. We carried German-English, French English, and Spanish-English dictionaries with us and used them like crazy. It's amazing how well we were treated in the four countries we visited: Spain, France, Germany and Switzerland. People went out of their way to help us because we made the effort.

I did my little part. I expect my government to do the same.

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So, Telco, you think Keith is gonna single-handedly carry Current?

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stebo0728 wrote:So, Telco, you think Keith is gonna single-handedly carry Current?
Yes but I'm not sure how long it will take

Keith is putting Current on the map much the same way p0rn put VCR's, and Howard Stern put Sirius and Satellite Radio on the map.
Many working in the media hate censorship and want Intellectual freedom. When they run up against corporate bosses or the FCC they will look for another outlet.

Now I've got a question for you

Is Michelle Bachman a flake?

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telcoman wrote: Is Michelle Bachman a flake?
Chris Wallace seems to think so it seems.

But no more of a flake than Al Gore, Dan Quale, or Joe Biden.

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stebo0728 wrote:Chris Wallace seems to think so it seems.

But no more of a flake than Al Gore, Dan Quale, or Joe Biden.
Or Sarah Palin

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I must say, Sarah's voice makes me think the "L" doesnt really belong in her last name.

She's smarter than she makes herself look, but in my book she's no politician.

Bachmann on the other hand, I've just not decided about yet, I haven't seen enough of her yet. (I dont mean that anatomically either). Time will tell how she stacks up.

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stebo0728 wrote:Joe Biden.
I won't speak to the others, but gaffes aside, most Congressional insiders give Joe Biden credit on two main points:

1. Before being picked for VP, he was one of the most knowledgable Senators serving, and
2. He knows where everyone's skeletons are kept.

Those are what made him a great VP pick. On stage, Biden may look and sound like a liability, but he's probably an asset when there aren't cameras and microphones pointed at him.


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