"He's not even going the speed limit!" WTF?

[TroubleBound]

Lol nice dodge s***
The difference between me and you is that i am willing to admit that i am not an intelligent person and you think you are smart as hell =)
I can get up and tie my shoes in the morning, earn a check (and keep my job), and pay my bills. Nuff for me

[TroubleBound]

Oh and just so i can try and make you happy, how do i go about sticking the history?

[PoorManQ45]

Lol nice dodge s***
The difference between me and you is that i am willing to admit that i am not an intelligent person and you think you are smart as hell =)
I can get up and tie my shoes in the morning, earn a check (and keep my job), and pay my bills. Nuff for me

You obviously don't understand english either.

My original post was questioning the usage of the phrase. Not the reason for using the phrase. I am sorry you can not discern the difference.

[TroubleBound]

My original post was questioning the usage of the phrase. Not the reason for using the phrase. I am sorry you can not discern the difference.

This applies to everyone that complains about "slow" drivers in the left lane. If they are doing the speed limit they can be where ever the hell they want to be.

Thoughts?

A complaint about slow drivers in the left lane doesn't necessarily mean they referenced the speed limit.
Only in your first sentence did you use such terminology. Then when you realized that you weren't being agreed with, you turned it into an argument of terminology instead of principle.

If they are doing the speed limit they cannot be wherever the hell they want to be. They can either be in the right lane or they can impede the flow of traffic, no matter how someone refers to their actions.

[PoorManQ45]

A complaint about slow drivers in the left lane doesn't necessarily mean they referenced the speed limit.
Only in your first sentence did you use such terminology. Then when you realized that you weren't being agreed with, you turned it into an argument of terminology instead of principle.

If they are doing the speed limit they cannot be wherever the hell they want to be. They can either be in the right lane or they can impede the flow of traffic, no matter how someone refers to their actions.

Ugh... Really?

The second comment that you chose to pick out in in direct correlation to the questioning of the usage of the phrase in the first post. Try to follow along...

[TroubleBound]

Ugh really? Hard to follow along when you cant put a sentence together.
In In?
Stick the history?

And no, it was an additional thought not a reiterated one. The subject was already 'anyone', the difference between the sentences was the terminology, which was why you bothered typing the two sentences up in the same post.

It is very clear you were talking about people complaining about slow drivers in the left lane, and then decided you were talking about that one phrase in particular when you realized that we don't agree with ***hole drivers like you who 'downshift and engine brake' in the left lane.
Again, Nice try, Know-it-all/s***-for-brains.

[TroubleBound]

If they are doing the speed limit they can be where ever the hell they want to be.

So since your problem is with the reference to speed limits and not to slow drivers, shouldn't this statement have been, "If they are doing the flow of traffic they can be wherever the hell they want to be"?

[PoorManQ45]

I typically like to argue, but for some reason I don't feel like it with you.

You remind me of me about 4 years ago on here.

You got butt hurt because we pointed the huge mistake in your supporting argument in the other thread. Now you are trying to argue with me about this.

I am the one that typed the sentences, not you. You are trying to tell me what my intentions were with the words that I typed. That's definitely an interesting thing to do considering you have absolutely no idea what is going on in my head.

Now, if you would like to approach this subject in a more mature fashion you could have asked me to clarify the seemingly contradictory statements.

[PoorManQ45]

If they are doing the speed limit they can be where ever the hell they want to be.

So since your problem is with the reference to speed limits and not to slow drivers, shouldn't this statement have been, "If they are doing the flow of traffic they can be wherever the hell they want to be"?

No, it is a supporting statement of the legality of the issue.

The phrase "Not even going the speed limit" implies that you are expecting a driver to break the law. I followed that up with the sentence that you quoted, "If they are doing the speed limit they can be where ever the hell they want to be." These two statements work together.

[TroubleBound]

I could have done that if i wanted to hear a couple more lies from you in an effort to feel superior and intelligent, but you do not understand the english language and do not use it properly.

I am just having some fun finding flaws in a flawless fool.

I totally admitted to being way wrong about that one bit of the argument. But that wasn't my supporting argument, someone else brought up Pearl Harbor and said we weren't mad at the Japs, it had nothing to do with a Mosque. But you would know that if you knew how to read and understand english. And again, no butthurt here =) I am not one of the fools who will bend over for anyone with a couple million bucks to buy an insult. Das yoo!

[Razi]

The phrase "Not even going the speed limit" implies that you are expecting a driver to break the law.

No, it's implying that you are expecting the driver to at least travel at the posted speed limit.
This is why you don't drop your babies, guys.

[TroubleBound]

No, it is a supporting statement of the legality of the issue.

The phrase "Not even going the speed limit" implies that you are expecting a driver to break the law. I followed that up with the sentence that you quoted, "If they are doing the speed limit they can be where ever the hell they want to be." These two statements work together.

Agh but you see it isn't about legality, because (i know how you hate reading) as has been stated NUMEROUS times, you can LEGALLY receive a ticket for doing the speed limit in the left lane. So either you have a problem with the legality or a problem with the terminology, but either way you have contradicted yourself.

[PoorManQ45]

The phrase "Not even going the speed limit" implies that you are expecting a driver to break the law.

No, it's implying that you are expecting the driver to at least travel at the posted speed limit.
This is why you don't drop your babies, guys.

There is 69.99* and 70.00*1, no 70. There's under and over.

The statement is used not only for people doing 55 in a 70 zone. But also for 70 in a 70...

Agh but you see it isn't about legality, because (i know how you hate reading) as has been stated NUMEROUS times, you can LEGALLY receive a ticket for doing the speed limit in the left lane. So either you have a problem with the legality or a problem with the terminology, but either way you have contradicted yourself.

You're an idiot... You can receive a ticket, citation, charge for anything that pops in to an officer's head. Please provide validation of your statement in the form of an upholding by a court. You may be cited, but it will not stick when contested, EVER!

[TroubleBound]

So now you're back to saying that everyone should do the speed limit in the left lane and impede the flow of traffic because the ticket won't hold up in court?

[PoorManQ45]

So now you're back to saying that everyone should do the speed limit in the left lane and impede the flow of traffic because the ticket won't hold up in court?

This will be my last reply to you as you are a special person with whom I wish not to further discussions.

I am saying that the statement of "he's not even doing the speed limit" is a negative statement implying that the operator of a vehicle should be breaking the law rather then abiding by it.

The usage of the statement, "If they are doing the speed limit they can be where ever the hell they want to be." is used to support the initial observation that the person saying "he's not even doing the speed limit" is irritated that the driver of the relatively slow vehicle is not breaking the law.

There have been anecdotal statements provided to support the argument that you may not obstruct traffic even if this means exceeding the speed limit. These statements are unfounded and have not been validated by facts.

I am not in any way saying that one should obey the speed limit. I am intrigued by the usage of such a statement that would imply that one party wanted another party to break the law.

[Razi]

The statement is used not only for people doing 55 in a 70 zone. But also for 70 in a 70...

Then whoever is using that statement when someone is going 70 in a 70 is a retard.
Going 70 in the 70 means they are going the speed limit, so saying they aren't is mind numbingly stupid, if your friends are the ones saying that, slap em in the head for me.

[TroubleBound]

When someone says 'he's not even going the speed limit', it doesn't necessarily mean that they want the person to go over the speed limit. It means they would like the driver to be courteous and DO the speed limit in front of or behind the people in the right lane doing the speed limit. But you know everything...even what your friends are thinking when they say something. Just get the hell out of the left lane you slow inconsiderate a**, and don't make a thread cause you want everyone to drive as terribly as you do.

[AZhitman]

I am likely the guy speeding.
I am no street racer... I have never tried to find the top speed of my car... I am not weaving through traffic...

But I use my gas pedal when I can do so safely.

With this in mind, I am not going to talk about the legalities of driving under the speed limit, or the law with regards to passing lanes...

But from all perspectives... If you are holding up traffic... Get the f*** out of the way!
Not because its the law, not because of the technical classifications of each lane... Simply because WHY THE f*** NOT?!
You know its the "fast lane" why are you there if you are not going as fast as traffic? Its not a matter of laws, its a matter of courtesy. If you have the option to avoid it don't get in other peoples way, don't slow down people, don't be an ***hole.

Who cares what the law is? If we can all use the road in a safe and respectful manner, allowing each other to to pick our own comfortable pace with out conflict... Why would we doing anything but that?

Yes I know not all speeders are traveling at a safe speed... But not all are traveling at a dangerous one either. There is a single speed limit, do you really think the safe speed for an M3 is the same as a 1982 chevy van?
And even in the situation of an unsafe driver... Do you really want that driver hanging around you? Even worse do you want to take an unsafe driver and make they anxious and annoyed, then "force" them to try and get around you?

Get the f*** out of the way, not because its the law, or because its what the definition of the lane dictates... do it because its the right thing to do to make EVERYONE'S drive a little bit better.

As much as Coupe and I disagree on occasion, that's probably the best-stated post on this topic EVER. Period.

Much like Coupe, I'm just a "speeder", not an aggressive driver. I've been a "light speeder" (typically no more than 20 over on a freeway, 10 over in a 45, etc) since I started driving in 1985.

I'm not a professional driver. I *have* done a bit of track time, completed a couple police driving courses, owned the fastest production vehicle built ('87), and have driven/owned several high-hp modded cars... I've never had an at-fault accident.

Where I live, there's no potholes, almost no inclement weather, the freeways are beautifully flawless rubberized asphalt, and visibility is measured in miles.

So, I have a real hard time justifying 55mph when I drive a vehicle that was built to do 200 mph, pull 1.0 g, stops in half the distance of a 2010 Maxima, has stickier (and wider) tires than the factory fitment, more aggressive brakes, and is impeccably maintained.

I don't need some dimwit in a Ford Focus with bald tires and PepBoys brake pads telling me how fast I can go, because I represent HALF the threat he does (even at TWICE the speed).

SO, if you know (or are) that person, take Coupe's advice. Do the right thing, and slide on over. It won't hurt a bit, and you WILL get a wave and a smile as I accelerate past.

[Jesda]

I find that cruise control makes it easier to send faxes and make coffee at the same time.

[PoorManQ45]

I find that cruise control makes it easier to send faxes and make coffee at the same time.

I agree!

[Viper5000]

I hate when people are going slow in the left lane in busy traffic, but have ample room to move over a lane, then they look in their rear-view mirror and see you trying to go faster and choose to slow down. WHY do they do that? If your having a bad day, don't take it out on people trying to get home to see their family or have actual responsibilities.

Yeah, I hate those kind of people.... I ran into 2 jackoffs that did that to me on 95 on the way home from Carlisle

True story.... the second jackoff that did that somewhere between Savannah and Jacksonville on 95 thought that he was so cool riding in his f***ing Honda Odyssey, decided to NOT EVER get over... so when there was finally room I went to the right, as soon as I get over and start to slowly accel in 6th, the d!ck floors it, acting like he is cool..... Well, I made the decision that I didnt want to be near him, so I sped up to triple digits as normal just for a second, then returned to my normal cruising speed (85) and got in the left lane. No more than 10 seconds later, I see the motherF***er coming quick in my rearview. I get over to the right, let him pass..... right as that happens I see my detector start blipping. I slow to 80, the dude keeps going... then I see lights, and eventually him getting pulled over


LESSON for the KIDS:

dont be a d!ck on the interstate!!! If someone wants to pass let them pass

[IBCoupe]

My dad taught me a lesson in how to never get a speeding ticket:always be the second fastest car on the road.